12 shot dead at movie theater

[Star Puffs]

And I'd like to ask all the board freaks who defiantly said the killings were not related to Batman yesterday, to come back on and discuss this now? Any suggestion that this creep was actually a Batman freak was aggressively dismissed by them. Well, turns out he was.

Well, firstly I am sceptical of blame placed on passive entertainment that is not meant as a propaganda vehicle. If any pop culture medium actually encourages, or at least desensitises us to violence, it would be video games. In them you actively choose to make the violence happen, and in sandbox games, you can often do some pretty evil ____ of your own volition. A film, in contrast, is just someone else's story brought to life at the end of the day.

Regarding this specific case, this guy is more in line with those people who have a creepy obsession with Joker, most particularly the Ledger Joker. Even some far left critic who thinks Batman is a 'fascist' would be forced to admit that wanton killing completely contrary to Batman's ethos. Now Nolan pushed that envelope a bit with his utterly reckless Tumbler escape in the first film (but Alfred reassured us all that no one died and gave Bruce deserved criticism). It is the Joker and his nihilistic vision of humanity that would be reflected in real mass murder.

So is Nolan to blame? He ultimately just presents different facets of evil in him films which contrast with his hero. Is that any different than traditional folklore and fairy tales?

By the way the murderer apparently has a Ron Burgundy poster in his apartment. How f___ed up is that? But that means a silly, innocuous comedy appealed to this guy as well.

 

[Deckard]

I'll be honest, I'm scared ____less atm to goto a movie theatre and it has nothing to do with copy cats and everything to do with the fact that any average joe may now be packing in fear of copy cats.

I don't want to get sized up by some Charleton Heston _______ who thinks he's Dirty Harry because I'm in my mid 20s and may need to get up to goto the bathroom.

 

[Vortex]

I'll be honest, I'm scared ____less atm to goto a movie theatre and it has nothing to do with copy cats and everything to do with the fact that any average joe may now be packing in fear of copy cats.

I don't want to get sized up by some Charleton Heston _______ who thinks he's Dirty Harry because I'm in my mid 20s and may need to get up to goto the bathroom.

I can assure you, you're not alone in feeling that way. My theater had quite a few empty seats at prime time 8pm on opening day. I'll admit, i was a bit nervous at first, scanning the theater checking people out. I even brought a knife with me.

But you know what, it was fine. The nerves calmed rather quickly and once the show got underway, all was forgotten.

 

[nash]

Or the girl who wore a skirt and got raped...

ironic...kind of like the guy who owned a couple guns and mass murdered everyone around him.

check yourself before you start flinging around generalizations about gun owners.

 

[ironwez20]

I'll be honest, I'm scared ____less atm to goto a movie theatre and it has nothing to do with copy cats and everything to do with the fact that any average joe may now be packing in fear of copy cats.

I don't want to get sized up by some Charleton Heston _______ who thinks he's Dirty Harry because I'm in my mid 20s and may need to get up to goto the bathroom.

Im scared aswell. i havent even seen the movie yet and I'm in delaware its a small community where nothing really happens. i dont want some crazed copycat pycho ending my life so early. When i'm in the theater i'm sure people will be scanning the theater looking for anyone suspicious.

 

[nash]

Do any of you who think that taking our guns away will solve anything even realize where this incident took place?

In Aurora ____ing Colorado... Why did this happen there (aside from the fact that the guy is a psychopath)? Because he probably knew no one there would have a gun on them aside from security or the police.

Like others have said....why doesn't anything like this happen in Detroit, or Texas, or other places where people can legally conceal carry weapons?

Doesn't take much of a genius to figure that one out. and yet you ____ers want to take EVERYONE's guns away? geniuses

 

[ironwez20]

Isnt the crime rate in Detriot really High ? Im not disagreeing with you just asking a question

 

[jutty]

We were planning on buying a gun solely for home defense. It was recommended by the local police.
The area we live in has a pretty low crime rate,also live right near Parris Island.But the conversation the misses had with a policeman was basically he said that everyone in the town should own a gun.

In regards to the shooting,Of course its an upsetting and disturbing thing that happened,but surely the act of one gun owner shouldn't affect all gun owners.
But things like this happen (or someone breaks into your property),wouldnt you rather have a firearm,or not have one and wished you had

 

[DarthNeil]

Do any of you who think that taking our guns away will solve anything even realize where this incident took place?

In Aurora ____ing Colorado... Why did this happen there (aside from the fact that the guy is a psychopath)? Because he probably knew no one there would have a gun on them aside from security or the police.

Like others have said....why doesn't anything like this happen in Detroit, or Texas, or other places where people can legally conceal carry weapons?

Doesn't take much of a genius to figure that one out. and yet you ____ers want to take EVERYONE's guns away? geniuses

You're right-- because there are no deaths associated with guns in those areas. They're much safer. Oh, here's today in Texas where children were murdered...

https://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-21/boy-dies-texas-hotel-shooting/55733832/1

And then Detroit where no crazies would ever try anything like this because people are always packing there's always the lunatic that walked into a POLICE station and opened fire last year...

https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/413202...lice-release-graphic-video-precinct-shooting/

People are missing a big point. It's the fact that an individual can get their hands on these weapons (and ammunition-- 6000 rounds online) in such a short time and with such ease that's the problem... Our society has changed. The government isn't the boogeyman and the right to bear arms to protect yourself against your elected officials in a free society is, I'm sorry, laughable. Be safe with a gun in your own house-- Protect yourself from intruders-- But if you can't admit that there is a massive problem then you're quite simply deluding yourself. How can anyone look at this tragedy and say that if more guns were involved it would have had a better outcome? Only a highly trained gun expert with excellent skills would have reacted upon the first gas bombs and taken out the lunatic. The average guy with a gun would have fired wild.

It's a terrible tragedy and it should be a wake up call (just as Columbine should have been... Or Virginia Tech... Or the Montreal massacre... Or... ). Guns don't kill people; people do. Unfortunately guns that can fire 60+ rounds a minute definitely help those sick people.

 

[wofford29]

 

[shocktrooper_au]

In the end if it comes to handing in your guns in do you really think criminal types will hand them in?

 

[DarthNeil]

In the end if it comes to handing in your guns in do you really think criminal types will hand them in?

Pandora's box is wide open.

 

[shocktrooper_au]

You'll either end up living in a police state or a crime state eventually

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Haha.

 

[BadMoon]

I plan on going this Sunday. Fear isn't going to stop me from doing things I love. I will still fly even though 9/11 happened. You can't let fear rule your life.

Yup. I went in with my wife without a worry. Maybe I'm naive but I'm not letting one stupid ____ get to me emotionally. We loved the movie. And FYI the .40 stayed in the car. As did the .38.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

With the way some members here post with knee-jerk reactions, I would trust any of you with a weapon.

You'd just shoot yourselves in the foot.

 

[csi]

You're right-- because there are no deaths associated with guns in those areas. They're much safer. Oh, here's today in Texas where children were murdered...

https://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-21/boy-dies-texas-hotel-shooting/55733832/1

And then Detroit where no crazies would ever try anything like this because people are always packing there's always the lunatic that walked into a POLICE station and opened fire last year...

https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/413202...lice-release-graphic-video-precinct-shooting/

People are missing a big point. It's the fact that an individual can get their hands on these weapons (and ammunition-- 6000 rounds online) in such a short time and with such ease that's the problem... Our society has changed. The government isn't the boogeyman and the right to bear arms to protect yourself against your elected officials in a free society is, I'm sorry, laughable. Be safe with a gun in your own house-- Protect yourself from intruders-- But if you can't admit that there is a massive problem then you're quite simply deluding yourself. How can anyone look at this tragedy and say that if more guns were involved it would have had a better outcome? Only a highly trained gun expert with excellent skills would have reacted upon the first gas bombs and taken out the lunatic. The average guy with a gun would have fired wild.

It's a terrible tragedy and it should be a wake up call (just as Columbine should have been... Or Virginia Tech... Or the Montreal massacre... Or... ). Guns don't kill people; people do. Unfortunately guns that can fire 60+ rounds a minute definitely help those sick people.

how can you differentiate someone having a right to defend themselves in their homes but not outside their house? Your happy with people just being sheep to the slaughter when confronted by a potential killer, rapist, thief outside their home?

I dont know how I can go to the movies again without feeling paranoid,
I think is just impossible

perhaps you should shut yourself into your house for the rest of your life. You have a much higher chance of getting hit by a car, or catching a sickness/virus, or having some other accident then getting shot.

These are not irrational fears they are based on the very real possibility of a second or third attack of a similar nature. There are just too many crazies out there. The subject matter of Nolans Batman movie is appealing to these guys in the wrong way. Listen if hey are putting cops outside theatres in NYC. There IS reason to be cautious. Added security in UK as well.

And I'd like to ask all the board freaks who defiantly said the killings were not related to Batman yesterday, to come back on and discuss this now? Any suggestion that this creep was actually a Batman freak was aggressively dismissed by them. Well, turns out he was.

I suspected that it had something to do with the violence of the Batman movie. Bane and all that. Destruction, ect. While I am a Batman fan, this new Batman is not my favorite.
I do not believe that this would be as likely to happen at a My Little Pony premiere.

The only reason the killing are related to the Batman movie yesterday is that some sick individual wanted attention and where better to get it but at the most anticipated movie premier of the summer. I am sick and tired of idiots trying to blame society, guns, Batman, and every other thing they can think of for what this guy did. This guy was sick in the head and wanted the attention. There is no one to blame by him.

 

[Deckard]

Do any of you who think that taking our guns away will solve anything even realize where this incident took place?

In Aurora ____ing Colorado... Why did this happen there (aside from the fact that the guy is a psychopath)? Because he probably knew no one there would have a gun on them aside from security or the police.

Like others have said....why doesn't anything like this happen in Detroit, or Texas, or other places where people can legally conceal carry weapons?

Doesn't take much of a genius to figure that one out. and yet you ____ers want to take EVERYONE's guns away? geniuses

I never said anything about taking anyones guns away, I simply dont feel safe knowing every jerk off has or more accurately now wants one. I'd say about 50 percent of the general population are idiots, maybe higher, now they all want to arm themselves at the movies, at the bar. People get into fist fights in the city several times a day, now they have a gun with them, chances are it will escalate. I don't like that idea at all, I don't want to live in the Wild West. I don't like the idea that some old man giving me dirty looks because I haven't shaved in 3 days and need to run up the isle to goto the bathroom without missing the end of my movie may have his hand resting on his concealed revolver. It's unnerving.

As to why he targeted the theatre, your speculating, but we do know the pentagon themselves announced Military personel were present and amongst the casualties and the suspect wore body armor, so yea I'd say he expected to run into someone armed. Otherwise why wear kevlar and a vest? It seems like your just one of those angry people who go around calling others with varying opinions stupid, your the exact sort of person I wouldn't want armed.

 

[DarthNeil]

how can you differentiate someone having a right to defend themselves in their homes but not outside their house? Your happy with people just being sheep to the slaughter when confronted by a potential killer, rapist, thief outside their home?

Read my post again carefully-- I said have a gun in your home if it makes you feel safer, but not a semi-automatic that can fire 60+ rounds in a minute. Are you really under the belief that massive hordes are coming to get you?

 

[csi]

I never said anything about taking anyones guns away, I simply dont feel safe knowing every jerk off has or more accurately now wants one. I'd say about 50 percent of the general population are idiots, maybe higher, now they all want to arm themselves at the movies, at the bar. People get into fist fights in the city several times a day, now they have a gun with them, chances are it will escalate. I don't like that idea at all, I don't want to live in the Wild West. I don't like the idea that some old man giving me dirty looks because I haven't shaved in 3 days and need to run up the isle to goto the bathroom without missing the end of my movie may have his hand resting on his concealed revolver. It's unnerving.

As to why he targeted the theatre, your speculating, but we do know the pentagon themselves announced Military personel were present and amongst the casualties and the suspect wore body armor, so yea I'd say he expected to run into someone armed. Otherwise why wear kevlar and a vest?

if you don't like people exercising their Constitutional right to bear arms you are free to move to a country that has no such right.