12 shot dead at movie theater

[wofford29]

you know what I want? one of those AA12s

Those are amazing

 

[Jen]

They're not cowards!!! Were either of you in the military in the US? I was. Most of the people I was in with thought they were cowards that hid behind us. I'd trained with them a few times. For real they were a lot like us but wearing different uniforms. I'm not one to sit here and make assumptions about what life in another country is like, when I don't live there, like a lot of people are doing about life in the US in this thread.

So stop making mountains out of mole hills.

Well why the hell did you even bring that up? That is my question...whether you feel the same way or not..why bring it up into this discussion if not to just be an ass?

 

[sprig0701]

Wow, I just throw an untrue opinion of Canada (that does exist) at someone making untrue opinions of the US (that does exist), and made it perfectly clear it was done to show that person (Darth Neil) that it's not cool when someone makes an untrue assumption about your home country, and now I'm being made out to be a Canada hater.

So let's get this straight, saying the US was founded on guns, and a Canadian member saying they're going to the movies with no fear of a shooter showing up, unlike in America- that's fine. But saying that an opinion of Canada being a cowardice country existing in the US- that's worth having a big hissy fit over?

Ok. So is this a thread to bash life in the USA only?

 

[drbrad1975]

I guess what you know is, well, completely wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKLD5yVl0PM

https://www.defensivecarry.com/foru...660-convert-your-ar-15-full-auto-legally.html

I believe the sear has to be made before the ban of automatic weapons in the 1980s. That is why they mention it several times in the video. Also you have to a class III permit.

 

[Blackthornone]

Just an FYI. It is completely legal for anyone to own an automatic weapon with the proper license. Hell I could probably get a grenade launcher provided I had the funds and the license for it.

I own an AR 15. It's semi automatic. I never used the full setting or even the 3 round burst feature. The American military changed the way they trained after Vietnam when they realized how many rounds were wasted. Well placed shots are far superior than automatic spray.

Yes, they found that 3 shot bursts were more effective for shooting at each individual target. Full auto fire makes the gun too difficult to control because of the recoil, and makes it difficult to keep on the target, or to just plan aim at any number of targets. I know you know that, but others might not.

 

[sprig0701]

Well why the hell did you even bring that up? That is my question...whether you feel the same way or not..why bring it up into this discussion if not to just be an ass?

So now you're calling me an ass? I've made it perfectly clear numerous times why I put that out there. Just people want to overreact and be, well, an ass about it.

If its that inappropriate then you have the power to make it disappear, and if need be infraction me for it. But telling me I did it just to be an ass could be seen as being hypocritical if it needs to go to that extreme.

 

[The Mike]

How did this thing turn from a tragedy in Aurora to a conversation about which countries are cowards?

The guns were purchased legally despite the "need" for them, they were used by one individual in a terrorist act against innocents, an individual who was not only obviously deranged and unable to separate himself from fantasy (if those Joker comments pan out) but also incredibly smart and well educated since he was in a graduate program in the Neurosciences.

I believe that there need to be stricter gun control in this nation, I believe that there should be hoops to jump through and that any high grade weaponry that can't be proven that it is needed shouldn't be sold period but the truth is guns do not kill people, people kill people, there is a motive for every action, for every reaction and the trouble is that it's easier to blame the utensil of terror than the actual terrorist. This guy was the problem, he found a way to get what he needed to do what he needed but let's not skirt the fact that he was the one pulling the trigger and walking in with more protection than SWAT shows he knew what could have happened.

This thing is nowhere near cut and dry and we can't blame it on guns simply because they were used.

 

[sprig0701]

Yes, they found that 3 shot bursts were more effective for shooting at each individual target. Full auto fire makes the gun too difficult to control because of the recoil, and makes it difficult to keep on the target, or to just plan aim at any number of targets. I know you know that, but others might not.

So the US assault rifles still have the 3 round burst? I liked that a lot more than the old A1s full auto feature.

 

[csi]

Wow, I just throw an untrue opinion of Canada (that does exist) at someone making untrue opinions of the US (that does exist), and made it perfectly clear it was done to show that person (Darth Neil) that it's not cool when someone makes an untrue assumption about your home country, and now I'm being made out to be a Canada hater.

So let's get this straight, saying the US was founded on guns, and a Canadian member saying they're going to the movies with no fear of a shooter showing up, unlike in America- that's fine. But saying that an opinion of Canada being a cowardice country existing in the US- that's worth having a big hissy fit over?

Ok. So is this a thread to bash life in the USA only?

the difference is he was sharing HIS opinion and you were sharing opinions you claim were from people other then you. It may be subtle, but thats the difference. Its one thing to share what you believe, its another to share things other people supposedly believe to prove a point.

I believe the sear has to be made before the ban of automatic weapons in the 1980s. That is why they mention it several times in the video. Also you have to a class III permit.

the other link shows a slide stock that does the same thing and has been classified by the ATF as legal to own.

 

[Jen]

Wow, I just throw an untrue opinion of Canada (that does exist) at someone making untrue opinions of the US (that does exist), and made it perfectly clear it was done to show that person (Darth Neil) that it's not cool when someone makes an untrue assumption about your home country, and now I'm being made out to be a Canada hater.

So let's get this straight, saying the US was founded on guns, and a Canadian member saying they're going to the movies with no fear of a shooter showing up, unlike in America- that's fine. But saying that an opinion of Canada being a cowardice country existing in the US- that's worth having a big hissy fit over?

Ok. So is this a thread to bash life in the USA only?

I didn't notice anyone bashing life in the USA - just debating the issue of gun control and why from their own experiences they agree or don't agree with it.

Many from other countries are watching the news on this story and people are being interviewed, polls are being done about whether people are now nervous to go to a movie theater....and no surprise there - many are. Even a few members here said they felt uneasy about seeing Batman for fear of a copy cat killer. So really, he's getting info from news and interviews and polls of US citizens saying they are now skeptical about going to the movies.....So actually, his statement of him going to a movie in Canada without fear, unlike many Americans, has some validity to it.

 

[The Ween]

Yup. I went in with my wife without a worry. Maybe I'm naive but I'm not letting one stupid ____ get to me emotionally. We loved the movie. And FYI the .40 stayed in the car. As did the .38.

I have more fear of driving my car the 20 miles to get to the theater. I swear since they took driver's ed out of our schools, people be crazy driving!

 

[csi]

How did this thing turn from a tragedy in Aurora to a conversation about which countries are cowards?

The guns were purchased legally despite the "need" for them, they were used by one individual in a terrorist act against innocents, an individual who was not only obviously deranged and unable to separate himself from fantasy (if those Joker comments pan out) but also incredibly smart and well educated since he was in a graduate program in the Neurosciences.

I believe that there need to be stricter gun control in this nation, I believe that there should be hoops to jump through and that any high grade weaponry that can't be proven that it is needed shouldn't be sold period but the truth is guns do not kill people, people kill people, there is a motive for every action, for every reaction and the trouble is that it's easier to blame the utensil of terror than the actual terrorist. This guy was the problem, he found a way to get what he needed to do what he needed but let's not skirt the fact that he was the one pulling the trigger and walking in with more protection than SWAT shows he knew what could have happened.

This thing is nowhere near cut and dry and we can't blame it on guns simply because they were used.

ironically that thing about wearing more protection then SWAT is starting to become a plot point for conspiracy theorists online now. Supposedly the equipment he was wearing costs between $10,000 and $20,000 and they are speculating how an unemployed person was able to get his hands on such expensive equipment.

 

[sprig0701]

How did this thing turn from a tragedy in Aurora to a conversation about which countries are cowards?

The guns were purchased legally despite the "need" for them, they were used by one individual in a terrorist act against innocents, an individual who was not only obviously deranged and unable to separate himself from fantasy (if those Joker comments pan out) but also incredibly smart and well educated since he was in a graduate program in the Neurosciences.

I believe that there need to be stricter gun control in this nation, I believe that there should be hoops to jump through and that any high grade weaponry that can't be proven that it is needed shouldn't be sold period but the truth is guns do not kill people, people kill people, there is a motive for every action, for every reaction and the trouble is that it's easier to blame the utensil of terror than the actual terrorist. This guy was the problem, he found a way to get what he needed to do what he needed but let's not skirt the fact that he was the one pulling the trigger and walking in with more protection than SWAT shows he knew what could have happened.

This thing is nowhere near cut and dry and we can't blame it on guns simply because they were used.

It was a Canadian member making untrue assumptions about life in the US based iff if the shooting, so I threw out the untrue assumption that people in the US view Canada as cowards, and thus here we are.

I guess it's fine to talk ____ about the US, but don't talk negative about Canada. Otherwise you'll be made out to be a Canada hater and mods will call you an ass.

 

[The Mike]

Yeah I've read that too, this morning a dozen of pro-gun folks posted in various places that this was a set up government event to "take away guns". It's our current operating mode, nothing will happen without someone looking for a ulterior motive by someone.

 

[csi]

It was a Canadian member making untrue assumptions about life in the US based iff if the shooting, so I threw out the untrue assumption that people in the US view Canada as cowards, and thus here we are.

I guess it's fine to talk ____ about the US, but don't talk negative about Canada. Otherwise you'll be made out to be a Canada hater and mods will call you an ass.

well in all seriousness, if its not something you believe anyways, why bother to bring it up?

 

[csi]

Yeah I've read that too, this morning a dozen of pro-gun folks posted in various places that this was a set up government event to "take away guns". It's our current operating mode, nothing will happen without someone looking for a ulterior motive by someone.

sadly, with things I have read over the past year or so about things our government and current administration is doing and/or has done, I could almost see where people are coming from there. I would however want to see a lot more facts before jumping to that conclusion.

 

[BadMoon]

I have more fear of driving my car the 20 miles to get to the theater. I swear since they took driver's ed out of our schools, people be crazy driving!

Im with you there.

 

[Jen]

It was a Canadian member making untrue assumptions about life in the US based iff if the shooting, so I threw out the untrue assumption that people in the US view Canada as cowards, and thus here we are.

I guess it's fine to talk ____ about the US, but don't talk negative about Canada. Otherwise you'll be made out to be a Canada hater and mods will call you an ass.

I'm still not sure where you think people are talking ____ about the US? Granted, I have not read this entire thread - but whether or not someone things our gun laws are dangerous or questionable, could hardly be considered bashing the US. I think you may be the one making mountains out of molehills.

 

[Jen]

Yeah I've read that too, this morning a dozen of pro-gun folks posted in various places that this was a set up government event to "take away guns". It's our current operating mode, nothing will happen without someone looking for a ulterior motive by someone.

You've got to be kidding me?! Now that's crazy talk.

 

[Valfar]

Yup. I went in with my wife without a worry. Maybe I'm naive but I'm not letting one stupid ____ get to me emotionally. We loved the movie. And FYI the .40 stayed in the car. As did the .38.

Yea, leave the guns in the car so some gangsta can break in and take them and use them against you half way into the movie. XD