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ok,but would you guys be able to mix the stuff properly..soouds risky!

Still that guy is a one off compared to the clear and present danger of guns..No?

its all over the internet how to make any kind of bomb, you just have to look. Hell for a while Amazon was selling a how to book about it.

And no, I don't see gun ownership as a clear and present danger. You are letting your beliefs cloud your objectivity. Plenty of statistics have been shared here to show that less gun control has decreased gun violence. I just showed you how much more damage can be done, faster and cheaper, with out a gun, yet you continue to be skeptical of it. You want to believe what you believe no matter what the facts are.
 

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You're mistaken. The last handgun I purchased last week was $900 alone. The one before it 2 months ago was $1200.

Was at the gun store today and they had hand guns as cheap as $250.


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Was at the gun store today and they had hand guns as cheap as $250.

Oh I know there are inexpensive guns, but I collect some guns as a hobby. And I'm a frugal collector, if you want to see some $$$ ask P1XAR about some of the stuff he's got in his safe.
 
Agreed, but still think there is that line. No one probably could have stopped this guy or McVeigh or those Columbine kids. But maybe you do stop that disgruntled employee who in a moment of rage opens fire on his coworkers, who wouldnt have had the tools otherwise.

Again these people go home and come back with a weapon. They usually aren't just willy nilly at work and go crazy. They go home plan their attack and act. No guns they plan accordingly. You are from Canada. From what I gather Canadians have not a flipping clue how anything really works here. But they sure do like to comment on it and make silly assumptions. I'll be the first person to admit I don't know what the ____ happens up there. I will never presume to either. :lol
 
And thats the cheapest one can buy, what do shot guns at Walmart cost?

No clue. I don't buy guns at Wal Mart. I buy mine from a Gun Shop, and these are definitely not the cheapest that can be had. If I wanted to buy a "Glock" without paperwork that is probably stolen I can drive downtown and get one for $300 easy.
 
And thats the cheapest one can buy, what do shot guns at Walmart cost?

There are cheaper guns, but the ones like this Holmes guy used weren't cheap.

Rifles depend on what kind and how big your talking.

You also have to buy ammo.

I'm just wondering. Don't they hunt in other countries? There's no rifles anywhere?
 
Human impulse and stupidity is what scares me.

Someone makes you mad enough...why hit them when you have that nice gun at your side. You shoot them.

I know so many people like that.
 
Again these people go home and come back with a weapon. They usually aren't just willy nilly at work and go crazy. They go home plan their attack and act. No guns they plan accordingly. You are from Canada. From what I gather Canadians have not a flipping clue how anything really works here. But they sure do like to comment on it and make silly assumptions. I'll be the first person to admit I don't know what the ____ happens up there. I will never presume to either. :lol

Valfar and Eli.....nuff said. :lol
 
From what I gather Canadians have not a flipping clue how anything really works here. But they sure do like to comment on it and make silly assumptions. I'll be the first person to admit I don't know what the ____ happens up there. I will never presume to either. :lol

:lecture Same can be said about anywhere, and this is why I try not to comment too much on stuff that I have little experience with. My little brother was stationed in Korea for a couple years, and now he's a "seasoned world traveler" that knows all/seen it all. :thud:
 
Oh I know there are inexpensive guns, but I collect some guns as a hobby. And I'm a frugal collector, if you want to see some $$$ ask P1XAR about some of the stuff he's got in his safe.

oh they had some pretty sweet and crazy stuff there. One hand gun I assume was a .45, had at least a foot long barrel on it and a scope. Biggest hand gun I had ever seen. They also had these tiny little guns that had laser sights on them.
 
speaking of which, i believe silk road branched out to arms trade now. silk road for mind altering substance trade and the spin off the armory for guns and ammo. some of them pass customs too. :horror
 
Human impulse and stupidity is what scares me.

Someone makes you mad enough...why hit them when you have that nice gun at your side. You shoot them.

I know so many people like that.

you know a lot of murders? Your not prone to exaggeration by any chance are you?
 
There are cheaper guns, but the ones like this Holmes guy used weren't cheap.

Rifles depend on what kind and how big your talking.

You also have to buy ammo.

I'm just wondering. Don't they hunt in other countries? There's no rifles anywhere?

Well, for sake of facts...his Glock and AR15 are relatively cookie-cutter firearms, and are actually fairly inexpensive. You can buy a bare bones AR15 for less than $700, and the average Glock price is less than $600.
 
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I'm a crazy American :panic:
 
Well, for sake of facts...his Glock and AR15 are relatively cookie-cutter firearms, and are actually fairly inexpensive. You can buy a bare bones AR15 for less than $700, and the average Glock price is less than $600.

so 2 glocks was $1200
His AR was suped up so it was probably around $1200 min
Shotgun $200-$500
6,000 rounds of ammunition was minimum $2000+

so his weapons alone were around $5000 and his ballistic gear was estimated between $10,000-$12,000

definitely not cheap, or easy to acquire by the every day man.
 
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