18 dead in Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

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so the brother had nothing to do with it? I remember they had the brother in custody or something but I never knew if he was in on it or not.

as of right now they have not charged him with anything. Apparently he hasn't even been in touch with his brother since 2010
 
How exactly should I take this?

listen...Christians believe in prayer,which is how we talk to God...

I said that,yes God has been taken out of the schools (which is true)

And in regards to prayer,would it have prevented this tragic event? I don't know that for certain if it would or would not have,but there are people insulting believers who believe in prayer....God does answer prayer.I have personally seen/experienced this in my own personal family life..

the point of my post was in defense of prayer
 
Well,it is true...they have removed God from the schools!

For Christians, prayer should be like breathing.II Thessalonians 5:17 "Pray without ceasing."

it's even declared here...II Chronicles 7:14 "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

Prayer is everything,because God can and Will intervene.You throw out God,then all Hell breaks loose...

for ****s sake man. this is a period of grieving. :mad:
 
listen...Christians believe in prayer,which is how we talk to God...

I said that,yes God has been taken out of the schools (which is true)

And in regards to prayer,would it have prevented this tragic event? I don't know that for certain if it would or would not have,but there are people insulting believers who believe in prayer....God does answer prayer.I have personally seen/experienced this in my own personal family life..

the point of my post was in defense of prayer

I still don't understand why you said If praying stops God can and will intervene and all Hell will break loose. That pretty much is saying that if someone isn't praying then their life has a good chance of being ****ed? I just don't see how anyone can say God who is supposed to forgive everyone will just come down and allow mass murders rapes molestation etc.

Sorry...I turned off the TV hours ago and did not catch that. Well...that pretty much covers what will be done with the Murderer.
It sucks he took the easy way out. I wish he would be alive so he can truly suffer for what he did. and I don't know who posted the WBC earlier I don't feel like going back, but that is just sickening. Those people really need to be shut down. Come on picketing little children funerals? Disgusting.
 
Teemu honestly I think you are bat **** crazy. I won't lie. But I'm not the only one that takes your posts a certain way. I think you are one seriously misguided individual.

Why am I misguided because I believe in God and his Words and YOU don't??? you can have your opinion and so can I? so why should you insult me because of it??

that is the difference between a believer and an unbeliever
 
I just feel so sad for those parents. So sad, my heart breaks for them. They really do not need to hear all this "prayer" crap. I mean seriously I really hope none of the victims' families have to deal with any of this crap. Facebook is getting filled with all these prayer posts, I am seeing a lot of that. I just felt it was very very disrespectful to bring that up when innocent babies just passed away.
 
I still don't understand why you said If praying stops God can and will intervene and all Hell will break loose. That pretty much is saying that if someone isn't praying then their life has a good chance of being ****ed? I just don't see how anyone can say God who is supposed to forgive everyone will just come down and allow mass murders rapes molestation etc.

the only answer I can give you is read the Bible and get an understanding of God

I do believe that God can intervene through prayer...

The Bible is full of moral ways to live,but men choose darkness,rather than light
 
Why am I misguided because I believe in God and his Words and YOU don't??? you can have your opinion and so can I? so why should you insult me because of it??

that is the difference between a believer and an unbeliever

If you talk to god I will stand corrected. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
 
Some people just have to make this thread about them and their beliefs... nice one.
 
Well,it is true...they have removed God from the schools!

For Christians, prayer should be like breathing.II Thessalonians 5:17 "Pray without ceasing."

it's even declared here...II Chronicles 7:14 "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

Prayer is everything,because God can and Will intervene.You throw out God,then all Hell breaks loose...

Shut. The ****. Up.
 
the only answer I can give you is read the Bible and get an understanding of God

I do believe that God can intervene through prayer...

The Bible is full of moral ways to live,but men choose darkness,rather than light
I don't know, but I bet those teachers were praying bro. I am sure the adults were praying. maybe some of the older kids too.

Whenever there is something like this happening I bet there is a lot of people praying. doesn't really change anything.
 
the only answer I can give you is read the Bible and get an understanding of God

I do believe that God can intervene through prayer...

The Bible is full of moral ways to live,but men choose darkness,rather than light

*tugs at collar awkwardly*

Let's just leave it at this and be done with it. For a believer like yourself, the Bible is full of moral ways to live. For those who aren't necessarily religious (or they simply don't trust in the Bible), it's... well, very questionable to say the least. Like you said, these things are viewed differently depending on who you are. But that's a can of worms that shouldn't even begin to be opened on a toy forum.

It's enough of a stretch that we're discussing such a dangerous and sensationalized topic like this here. It didn't take more than a few posts to get sidetracked.
 
the only answer I can give you is read the Bible and get an understanding of God

I do believe that God can intervene through prayer...

The Bible is full of moral ways to live,but men choose darkness,rather than light

When you said intervene you meant he would intervene in a bad way. Did you not say All hell would break loose? And I have read the bible. Believe me I understand God. Going to Catholic school since 1st grade you are hit hard with religion, but seriously why is this even up for debate? The fact of the matter is Kids and adults lost their lives way too early. Nothing we say or do can change that.
 
Can we please shut up with this religious bull****? There's 18 dead children and religious talk won't help anything right now.
 
teemu, i understand bible quoting in times like this. but for ****s sake, use it appropriately. this isnt about you and your beliefs.
 
Can we please shut up with this religious bull****? There's 18 dead children and religious talk won't help anything right now.

that was my point.
No one should be talking about prayer in school or any of that, this is not the time for it, I really hate that some people are taking this as an excuse for it. :monkey4
 
that was my point. No one should be talking about prayer in school or any of that, I really hate that some people are taking this as an excuse for it. :monkey4

Totally agree. I won't talk to my kids about God or religion until they're old enough to think for themself without being brainwashed. I don't want them to have any part of it in school either.
 
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