82nd ACADEMY AWARD Nominations

[occulum]

Loved the FX but the story was average and worn. Wasn't the best film this year.

pretty much my thoughts as well ....

 

[IrishJedi]

What planet are you living on Carl? That view is idealistic and would be great, but we live in a world where the all mighty greenback rules.

Not for all artists. There will always be at least some people who pursue the hobbies of expression without technology or commerce as an influence. That's part of what makes an Art form (any of them) what it is. At their most pure, they are timeless and will always have practioners out there somewhere. Hell, there are even caligraphers among us... a few who have even managed to maintain it as a trade.

 

[D. Martin]

I'd be curious what the reasoning was behind the cinematographers that nominated it for the award. Because you're probably right - it's unlikely that there's a single shot that was touched by CG in some way.

There is still a DP when shooting on a soundstage filled with green screen and the visual effects supervisor and his assistants will meter the light and use those big chrome globes to grab light placement.

We won't know until we see the special features on the Blu-Ray, but I'm betting there is a good chance that they practically lit the actors as if they were in whatever environment while they did the motion capture work.

If you look at a film like Sin City, you can see the freedom digital sets have given DPs and how they can more dynamically light a set.

Furthermore, does anyone know if the DP on Avatar wasn't closely involved in the post? He still would have selected framing, lenses, and lighting, so to me it is valid.

I don't think it's flawed at all. I've articulated what I liked about the film - the characters and milieu are fascinating and beautifully written. It's tense, emotional and completely involving. I went into the film expecting nothing really - I'd never been impressed with Bigelow's films and I really don't like war movies set in the current day - so that I liked the film as much as I did really surprised me.

You were one of a few. Most people here defending Hurt Locker won't say what they liked. They just keep agreeing the film was flawed.

 

[LOTRFan]

District 9 probably stole some of Avatar's votes.

Damn prawns.

 

[D. Martin]

Not for all artists. There will always be at least some people who pursue the hobbies of expression without technology or commerce as an influence. That's part of what makes an Art form (any of them) what it is. At their most pure, they are timeless and will always have practioners out there somewhere. Hell, there are even caligraphers among us... a few who have even managed to maintain it as a trade.

Some may still do it, but not professionally. Mater of fact, most of the DPs and camera operators I know shoot their personally stuff digitally these days.

 

[LOTRFan]

You think Joe Sixpack or Hollywood cares about Crash anymore?

That was such a forced and contrived movie, I didn't care about it then. Arguably the worst award presented since Saving Private Ryan was robbed.

 

[IrishJedi]

Some may still do it, but not professionally. Mater of fact, most of the DPs and camera operators I know shoot their personally stuff digitally these days.

Of course that's where the industry ad a whole is quickly heading. And the lines between cinematography and visual effects become more diluted every day. I'm not disputing that at all, just disagreeing with any absolute notion that pure cinematography & film will be killed off entirely.

 

[The Ween]

Gene Berry was left out too.

https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100309/ap_en_tv/us_oscars_farrah_fawcett

 

[Bamboota]

I thought this was pretty funny:
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[ironwez20]

Lol thats so funny.

 

[wofford29]

I strongly disagree. Left in:

1. Avatar
2. The Hurt Locker
3. Up in the Air
4. Precious: Based on the Novel Push by Saphire
5. Inglorious Basterds

Left out:

6. Up
7. The Blind Side
8. An Education
9. District 9
10. A Serious Man

None of 6-10 stood a chance at winning BP.

An Education had a much higher chance of winning than Avatar. I posted the overall awards total this year some pages back. Avatar has literally won a handful of awards (3 before Oscars) compared to the other top 5 candidates, which were, at the low end An Education with 19 awards to Up In The Air at 36. Avatar outside of it's box office and tech awards had no momentum or chance of winning anything. Last year it would have been...

The Hurt Locker
Precious
Up In The Air
An Education
Inglourious Basterds

 

[karamazov80]

But most of the lesser award shows shy away from big, crowd-pleasing blockbusters. That's a large part of why movies like Precious, the Hurt Locker and others of its ilk garnered pre-Oscar attention though Avatar didn't. That's also why every indie movie you never heard of has the various awards it won listed all over the rental case.

 

[wofford29]

None of those totals include festival awards though. They are from critics circles, guilds and awards shows. Avatar's nomination was its win. It really garnered no serious recognition anywhere outside of it's tech. Its nomination just ____ed with its fans minds giving them a false sense of hope and a reason to watch. Lets be honest if the Oscars telecast could get a 1/3 of the Avatar fans to tune in. It's a win for them.

 

[karamazov80]

Well, if the actors, writers, and other creators really didn't think Avatar was good enough to win any other awards, I'm at a loss as to why it was hyped so much leading into the Oscars. Like you say, I'm sure it was in ABC's (or was it CBS?) interest to get Ava-fans watching, but they couldn't have been responsible for all the hype, where most folks seemed to think it was a 3-way contest at best, between Avatar, Hurt Locker, and Inglorious Basterds. I was only casually paying attention, but I did get that vibe from the various media outlets.

 

[wofford29]

The hype came from it steam rolling history with it's box office take.

 

[Khev]

Regardless of previous award ceremonies that no one cares about I'd say it was pretty much common knowledge that though the Best Picture Oscar should have gone to neither, it was going to be either Hurt Locker or Avatar. Even the HL producer who got banned from the ceremony knew what his movie's only real competition was. Obviously it would have made the top five.

 

[agen_kolar]

I'm relieved that Avatar went home with something because it definitely deserved it. I didn't care about any of the other movies this year, except Precious, so I'm glad Mo'Nique won Best Supporting Actress for that. Hurt Locker = just another war movie. Inglorious Basterds = lame. But above all, do you know what movie I'm glad ended up with nothing? Moon. I hate that movie. Useless and bore. ing.

PS - I'm in a bad mood and it shows.

 

[CelticPredator]

Ok. Then why wasnt Transformers not nominated? The first one? Like I said, its the same thing. Simple plot, simple acting, awesome action, and awesome effects. JUST LIKE AVATAR. So why is it Avatar gets a nom, and Transformers doesnt?

 

[CelticPredator]

I'm relieved that Avatar went home with something because it definitely deserved it. I didn't care about any of the other movies this year, except Precious, so I'm glad Mo'Nique won Best Supporting Actress for that. Hurt Locker = just another war movie. Inglorious Basterds = lame. But above all, do you know what movie I'm glad ended up with nothing? Moon. I hate that movie. Useless and bore. ing.

PS - I'm in a bad mood and it shows.

You also have a bad taste...and it shows.

 

[The ill Jedi]

Hurt Locker = just another war movie. Inglorious Basterds = lame. But above all, do you know what movie I'm glad ended up with nothing? Moon. I hate that movie. Useless and bore. ing.

This post =

All of those movies were fantastic.