AH Comiquette-Black Queen-Sold out, waitlist available

[D. Martin]

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Is Tim working on the next sculpt too? I have been impressed by his two outings on this line so far.

Yup. Next couple at least

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

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Adam's style is pretty unique. The statue being sexy is not enough. So far that's what most of the pieces in the line have accomplished, but the AH! likeness is not there on any of the pieces released so far.

That said, these are some damn nice statues!

 

[Adoptedscot]

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Please folks, do not pm/harrass the artists/sculptors or contacts that come here.
They not only create these items we love but they take time out of their busy schedule to visit us which is awesome. They do not need to be bombarded with recommendations/fixing/alteration ideas when they do come here.
By all means voice your personal opinion in a thread discussion about an item, you either like it or you don't, but pm'ing them asking them to fix it is not necessary.
Many thanks
x

 

[Blackthornone]

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I agree. Please do not PM Darth Saffron about alterations to a work that will be available to everyone. If you want changes to a work that will be owned by everyone, then those suggestions should be heard by all. Besides that, it's intrusive. The fact that she comes to the boards to read and respond to suggestions in the threads is MORE than enough.

Adam Hughes has the final say on all changes, because it's supposed to be his interpretation of the character, not ours. I do think the lighting in the pics makes the eyebrows look lighter than they are, and makes it difficult to see the shape of the nose.
It WOULD be nice though, if the statues really looked like Adam Hughes art.

 

[DarthSaffron]

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It WOULD be nice though, if the statues really looked like Adam Hughes art, which except in the case of Rogue, is more of an interpretation of Adam Hughes interpretation of the character. Something always seem lost in the translation in these instances.

Here's the thing about that. And keep in mind, I'm really biased; I think I win the award for "biggest Adam Hughes fan", and it colors my opinions of stuff. But here goes:

There's a reason we all like Adam's art. And there's a reason he's one of the top comic artists of our time, and many consider him to be among the top illustrators, comics or otherwise. And that reason, besides technical excellence coupled with a wit and intelligence behind the work, is that ethereal something.
Is it a smirk behind the eyes? An elusive tilt to the head? Something inviting in the posture? I couldn't say. And I look at alot more Adam Hughes artwork than the average bear.

Some of the most talented sculptors out there today have had a turn at working on Adam Hughes designed and inspired sculptures, and we've yet to have one that everybody agrees captures Adam's art perfectly. Why is that, do you think? Is it because the talent working on these projects is inferior, or is it because Adam's art has a quality that resists being captures, a quality that continues to make Adam one of he best in his field?

Just my thoughts on the subject.

 

[Darklord Dave]

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Thanks to Allison for communicating to us about these pieces, I know there are some artists and their representatives that just come here, get frustrated with the negative discourse and frequent unreasonable arguments, and never participate.

As I said in the other thread - I can't really tell the difference between the photoshopped and non-photoshopped pics. Sure SSC might listen and make changes if there are inaccuracies in a film based item, such as the wrong gun or something. But for these pieces - they are being art-directed by one of the premiere artists in the industry who has a familiarity with the characters and a distinct style to his art. It's because he is involved that we're buying these items. So you're going to tell him that he's done wrong?

Are you going to tell Frank Gehry where to put the elevators or tell Christo what color plastic to wrap the islands in?

 

[JosephCPR]

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...Is it because the talent working on these projects is inferior, or is it because Adam's art has a quality that resists being captures, a quality that continues to make Adam one of he best in his field?

C'mon! There's no doubt Hughes is talented but lady...you're not very objective

 

[DarthSaffron]

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C'mon! There's no doubt Hughes is talented but lady...you're not very objective

Guilty as charged!

 

[Shai]

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I was the first to denounce the kind of behavior that a member in this thread did with the Pm''s but somehow Dark Dave you stole my thunder...

 

[LOTRFan]

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Leaning like a chola.

 

[Blackthornone]

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Here's the thing about that. And keep in mind, I'm really biased; I think I win the award for "biggest Adam Hughes fan", and it colors my opinions of stuff. But here goes:

There's a reason we all like Adam's art. And there's a reason he's one of the top comic artists of our time, and many consider him to be among the top illustrators, comics or otherwise. And that reason, besides technical excellence coupled with a wit and intelligence behind the work, is that ethereal something.
Is it a smirk behind the eyes? An elusive tilt to the head? Something inviting in the posture? I couldn't say. And I look at alot more Adam Hughes artwork than the average bear.

Some of the most talented sculptors out there today have had a turn at working on Adam Hughes designed and inspired sculptures, and we've yet to have one that everybody agrees captures Adam's art perfectly. Why is that, do you think? Is it because the talent working on these projects is inferior, or is it because Adam's art has a quality that resists being captures, a quality that continues to make Adam one of he best in his field?

Just my thoughts on the subject.

One of the most basic reasons for this is that all really talented artists tend to have developed themselves to the point at which they have developed a style of their own. You can often tell that an artwork was done by a particular artist even without being told that it was done by them. This is true of music, as well. If the sculptor Adam Hughes hires is really talented, it will probably be very difficult for the sculptor to take himself out of the sculpture he makes and try to let it look like Adam Hughes work, and still have it look exceptional, because so much of the sculptor's talent lies in the very expression of his own personal style, and not of Mr. Hughes. Either Adam Hughes starts sculpting these statues himself, or he takes on an apprentice from very early on in the apprentice's career, before he develops a style all his own ( this is where it helps to have a son), or somehow an artist is found that just happens to have style so close to Adam Hughes to begin with, that when he modifies it slightly to emulate Adam Hughes style, it won't contradict his own personal style too much to impair his own creative flow, which would impair the overall greatness of the work.

 

[DarthSaffron]

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I was the first to denounce the kind of behavior that a member in this thread did with the Pm''s but somehow Dark Dave you stole my thunder...

Actually; there was more than one person PM'ing me. So that would be corrected to "members in this thread" plural. I appreciate everyone's passion for the line, and I like that folks feel I am approachable. But I have to admit, its a bit overwhelming.

 

[LOTRFan]

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This isn't a job where the likeness needs to look like a living human being; like Aragorn or Lando.

&^% the Black Queen, what's this about Lando?!

 

[DarthSaffron]

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&^% the Black Queen, what's this about Lando?!

no idea really; I don't recall a Lando, personally. But someone posted saying something about Lando having catepillars for eyebrows, and the fans complained and it was fixed. I was just saying that this isn't the same; as Black Queen isn't based on an actor's likeness.

 

[K_C]

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Here's the thing about that. And keep in mind, I'm really biased; I think I win the award for "biggest Adam Hughes fan", and it colors my opinions of stuff. But here goes:

There's a reason we all like Adam's art. And there's a reason he's one of the top comic artists of our time, and many consider him to be among the top illustrators, comics or otherwise. And that reason, besides technical excellence coupled with a wit and intelligence behind the work, is that ethereal something.
Is it a smirk behind the eyes? An elusive tilt to the head? Something inviting in the posture? I couldn't say. And I look at alot more Adam Hughes artwork than the average bear.

Some of the most talented sculptors out there today have had a turn at working on Adam Hughes designed and inspired sculptures, and we've yet to have one that everybody agrees captures Adam's art perfectly. Why is that, do you think? Is it because the talent working on these projects is inferior, or is it because Adam's art has a quality that resists being captures, a quality that continues to make Adam one of he best in his field?

Just my thoughts on the subject.

Good point, and I agree. While Adam's involvement in this line is probably the sole reason why I'm collecting it, I didn't really sign up because I expect the statues to look like Adam sculpted them...this is a collaborative effort afterall. IMO, the sculpter isn't Adam so we can't expect the statue to look like Adam sculpted it...it's like one artist trying to mimic another artist's style; you can always tell the difference. This is even more apparent when we're talking 2 different genres of art; sculpting and drawing. That's why I think the operative word in this line is "inspired" as in the statues are inspired by the original art of Adam. In this case, I think the sculptor did an awesome job creating the statue. The more I look at it, the more I fall in love with it. I think it has real potential to surpass Emma as my favorite in the line so far.

 

[The Mike]

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no idea really; I don't recall a Lando, personally. But someone posted saying something about Lando having catepillars for eyebrows, and the fans complained and it was fixed. I was just saying that this isn't the same; as Black Queen isn't based on an actor's likeness.

I was the one who made that statement and it was Bespin Han that had catapillar eyebrows that were changed due to outcry. The point wasn't that because it was based on an actor's likeness it was that an unacceptable (by consensus) and SS took those comments seriously and made them. Also the endpoint if taken in context was that these boards have been filled with so much venom and criticism that any serious changes that should be made or want to be made by the fans will no longer be taken seriously because everyone who dislikes a piece feels the need to go over the top to express their thoughts so why bother. Nothing has seriously been changed to my knowledge since that point even though there has been inconsistencies with some pieces that warranted a change.

The final thought on this is simple. Adam Hughes signs off on these pieces. He likes the way this looks which is why it came out whether fans like it or not, which is a moot point since the overwhelming majority love the piece. Sideshow will not change it not because it was based on an actor's likeness or any other outside circumstance but because they are happy with the final product and will release it. That shouldn't stop fans from expressing their like and/or dislikes on the piece itself or any other piece for that matter but everyone should understand and accept the fact that its not going to change especially if Adam Hughes, Tim Miller and whomever at SSC in charge of the Marvel License all like it. The Pending Approval without a doubt is from the Marvel side at Marvel Enterprises.

Its not going to change, but still voice your opinions but don't badger or harass on either end.

 

[POWER1010]

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WOW!!! haven't been here in a few days, seems this is still goin on and has taken some weird and unexpected turns.

Well I have read all the posts I missed out on and I agree with what seems to be common sense.

If you don't like it don't get\buy it, If you want to voice your opinion on it or comment on how you feel it could be improved....Go Nuts!! BUT it's not gonna change a DAMN thing so don't think constant posts about how it "should really look" are gonna do any good.

If people have followed this thread even a little closely they know I fall in with the side that really likes the statue but feels that, yes... certain things about the facial expression are "off" but what can I do. I didn't draw the concept art, I didn't sculpt the piece, I didn't approve it for public release. So what are my options??.....well like I said at the beginning buy it or don't, it's pretty much that simple guys and gals.

For many of you this may sound harsh or unfair because Jean is your favorite character and you want the character to be captured perfectly, well....to you I say it may not be perfect in your eyes but it was to someone at some point, whether it be AH!, TIM, or SSC!!

life isn't fair and at the end of the day it's only a collectible. I personally will be getting this piece and it's nice to see the line is going strong.

Thanks again Allison (Darthsaffron) for trying to clear things up, atleast to me (and I'm sure others in this board) it is very much appreciated.

Take Care!

 

[viper12383]

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i dont mean to sound rude but how is darth saffron involved in all this? im a bit a lost. is she a sculptor? the sculptor?

 

[POWER1010]

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I believe (and I could be wrong) but she's Adam Hughes Publicist\GirlFriend. She come's here and answers questions for us regarding this line of Comiquettes.

 

[IrishJedi]

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I believe (and I could be wrong) but she's Adam Hughes Publicist\GirlFriend. She come's here and answers questions for us regarding this line of Comiquettes.

In a nutshell, that's it. She's also a very good artist herself (that's Allison's own work in her avatar).