Alien vs. Predator 2 - Official Movie Thread

[The Chaver]

Well, despite my reservations about plot/story, everything visual I see looks very nicely done, so where even the visuals were just ok in AVP and the story was so-so, at least what you see on screen should be sweet even if the story in which it's thrown out at you is subpar.

The story for AVP 1 was decent! It was the directing that sucked!

I think those 2 guys can't direct for sh%#

 

[Rob]

@Chavez: Story was meh, the Predators sucked(Both as 'Predators' and the facial/body designs aswell as armor, well, except the masks), the script was pretty basic, nowhere near what we'd expect from either Alien or Predator, there were continuity errors everywhere, hardly any Alien/Predator battles(And when they did have them, the camera would be everywhere and confuse the hell out of you) the characters were pretty forgetable and worst of all; PG-13 .

All in all, just about everything in AVP sucked, bud.

Atleast the two brothers know how to make the movie look like an Alien/Predator movie.

 

[FACEBOX]

My hopes for AVP where always:

1. Preds abduct humans to use as host for aliens.
2. Setting is in space or an alien planet. Could be the Xenomorph's home world or the Pred's. Either would be cool.
3. WAR!... no bull crap biases... just a Battle between the Universe's most BADASS creatures. Elders, Queens, Young-Blood Preds, and Drones in a fight to the death!
4. A few escaped humans running here and there just to give the audience some time to breath.... then back to business.
5. The "chosen" Preds survive and leave with their trophies and new experience, and a Queen alien is left to breed more eggs for the next battle.
6. SpaceJockey race gets caught in the crossfire while trying to steal eggs for their bio-technological experiments. (Seeing that xenomorphs are bio-mechanical themselves)
7. End the movie with fanboys of both species happy.

 

[Karma]

https://meta.yahoo-streaming.jp/webevents/yahoo/movie/avp2/trailer01_500k.asx

 

[Rob]

My hopes for AVP where always:

1. Preds abduct humans to use as host for aliens.
2. Setting is in space or an alien planet. Could be the Xenomorph's home world or the Pred's. Either would be cool.
3. WAR!... no bull crap biases... just a Battle between the Universe's most BADASS creatures. Elders, Queens, Young-Blood Preds, and Drones in a fight to the death!
4. A few escaped humans running here and there just to give the audience some time to breath.... then back to business.
5. The "chosen" Preds survive and leave with their trophies and new experience, and a Queen alien is left to breed more eggs for the next battle.
6. SpaceJockey race gets caught in the crossfire while trying to steal eggs for their bio-technological experiments. (Seeing that xenomorphs are bio-mechanical themselves)
7. End the movie with fanboys of both species happy.

Everything sounds good except adding the Space Jockeys(Many fans, including me, would prefer the Space Jockeys to stay mysterious) and the humans not being Colonial Marines.

 

[Jamal]

My gripe with AVP was the bulky bull**** weak Predators Anderson conjured up. Compare the Celtic V Grid Alien to the Wolf's store showdown. A mate and i had a long talk about this and Anderson just didnt have vision at all for the Predators he turned them into clumsy oafs. The Predators moved too much like humans man, with *****face and Anytime you couldnt tell it was a man in a suit the Predators came to life with Kevin Peter Hall inside them. The actors in the Predator suits in AVP sucked big time. Also the OVER DONE battle armor, since when does a primed hunter come with everything but the kitchen sink. Look at Anytime, he was naked without his loin cloth man..

 

[Spartan Rex]

Well, despite my reservations about plot/story, everything visual I see looks very nicely done, so where even the visuals were just ok in AVP and the story was so-so, at least what you see on screen should be sweet even if the story in which it's thrown out at you is subpar.

Do my eyes deceive me or is the Wolf holding a Pred/style hand blaster in his left hand in the 2nd picture?
How come its not incl in the HT inventory?

 

[MaulFan]

Do my eyes deceive me or is the Wolf holding a Pred/style hand blaster in his left hand in the 2nd picture?
How come its not incl in the HT inventory?

I think it's one of the 2 shoulder canon's just not mounted, if you look, there doesn't appear to be an active canon on his left shoulder in the same image.

 

[Jamal]

The battle between him & PA is gonna be epic man

 

[p!tu]

I think it's one of the 2 shoulder canon's just not mounted, if you look, there doesn't appear to be an active canon on his left shoulder in the same image.

If you guys watch the Behind the scenes of SSC PLasma Canon from AVPR youll see it can be used as a Gun!

 

[Jamal]

Like the pistol in the AVP2 game on PC ill presume

 

[IrishJedi]

I don't believe these two will be going out for tea any time soon:

 

[Jamal]

Look at the size of that tail :emperor

 

[DouglasMcc]

My gripe with AVP was the bulky bull**** weak Predators Anderson conjured up. Compare the Celtic V Grid Alien to the Wolf's store showdown. A mate and i had a long talk about this and Anderson just didnt have vision at all for the Predators he turned them into clumsy oafs. The Predators moved too much like humans man, with *****face and Anytime you couldnt tell it was a man in a suit the Predators came to life with Kevin Peter Hall inside them. The actors in the Predator suits in AVP sucked big time. Also the OVER DONE battle armor, since when does a primed hunter come with everything but the kitchen sink. Look at Anytime, he was naked without his loin cloth man..

While I am not an Anderson hater like most of the posters here, I too had problems with AVP. Mainly, as mentioned by others, continuity errors (the movement of the pyramid and the super accelerated face hugger-birth-full size alien cycle being the worst offenses) and the watered down PG-13 - although I believe that one was forced on him by the studio.

However, I didn't have a problem with the predators being *****-slapped around. This pyramid was a coming of age rite for young (emphasis YOUNG)predators. Think of it as an alien version of the Spartan trials that Leonidas went through in 300. They were shoved into a maze of death and had to make it to their shoulder canons and escape. If they died, oh well, they weren't worthy. The humans are the ones who f'k the trial up. When they reached the canons first and set off the alien release mechanism, they put the young, inexperienced predators at a disadvantage. So, other than personal taste on the viewers part, what was the problem with them being somewhat clumsy ... and cocky (i.e. the Predator who kicked a little ass then got impaled by the Alien on the pillar because he was too full of himself)? If they had left the rating at hard R and fixed those continuity errors (which once again could have come from the numerous cuts they were forced to make - even the unrated version isn't the complete movie. They were never given the budget to finish all the gorier effects.), the film would have been amazing. As it is, in unrated form, it's merely entertaining. But no where near the source materials.

P.S. Sorry, every time people call the Predator Wolf, I can't help but imagine if they had gotten Harvey Keitel to play the part

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Get it straight buster - I'm not here to say please, I'm here to tell you what to do and if self-preservation is an instinct you possess you'd better f#$king do it and do it quick! I'm here to help - if my help's not appreciated then lotsa luck, gentlemen. If I'm curt with you it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast and I need you guys to act fast if you wanna get out of this. So, pretty please... with sugar on top. Clean the f#$king town!

 

[Jamal]

While I am not an Anderson hater like most of the posters here, I too had problems with AVP. Mainly, as mentioned by others, continuity errors (the movement of the pyramid and the super accelerated face hugger-birth-full size alien cycle being the worst offenses) and the watered down PG-13 - although I believe that one was forced on him by the studio.

However, I didn't have a problem with the predators being *****-slapped around. This pyramid was a coming of age rite for young (emphasis YOUNG)predators. Think of it as an alien version of the Spartan trials that Leonidas went through in 300. They were shoved into a maze of death and had to make it to their shoulder canons and escape. If they died, oh well, they weren't worthy. The humans are the ones who f'k the trial up. When they reached the canons first and set off the alien release mechanism, they put the young, inexperienced predators at a disadvantage. So, other than personal taste on the viewers part, what was the problem with them being somewhat clumsy ... and cocky (i.e. the Predator who kicked a little ass then got impaled by the Alien on the pillar because he was too full of himself)? If they had left the rating at hard R and fixed those continuity errors (which once again could have come from the numerous cuts they were forced to make - even the unrated version isn't the complete movie. They were never given the budget to finish all the gorier effects.), the film would have been amazing. As it is, in unrated form, it's merely entertaining. But no where near the source materials.

P.S. Sorry, every time people call the Predator Wolf, I can't help but imagine if they had gotten Harvey Keitel to play the part

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Get it straight buster - I'm not here to say please, I'm here to tell you what to do and if self-preservation is an instinct you possess you'd better f#$king do it and do it quick! I'm here to help - if my help's not appreciated then lotsa luck, gentlemen. If I'm curt with you it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast and I need you guys to act fast if you wanna get out of this. So, pretty please... with sugar on top. Clean the f#$king town!

This post has a lot of truth to it. Well done

 

[MaulFan]

The biggest issue I had with AVP was the whole human-Predator alliance in the end. It was one thing the for the Predator ship to acknowledge Danny Glover's character as a skilled fighter in P2, but turning AVP into almost a buddy film for the biggest of the action sequences just seemed almost laughable. What looks promising about AVP:R is that it looks to be everyone for themselves; humans, xenomorphs, Wolf and Predalien all have agendas and it seems like they'll all take out anyone and anything in their way.

 

[bagelsncheesey]

The biggest issue I had with AVP was the whole human-Predator alliance in the end. It was one thing the for the Predator ship to acknowledge Danny Glover's character as a skilled fighter in P2, but turning AVP into almost a buddy film for the biggest of the action sequences just seemed almost laughable.

Did you read the Darkhorse comics? Human-Predator alliance was taken from the comics, so technically the film is accurate.

 

[MaulFan]

Did you read the Darkhorse comics? Human-Predator alliance was taken from the comics, so technically the film is accurate.

No, I only got into the movies in the last 6-7 years. It may be accurrate to the comic source material, and maybe in the comics it played out better but in the movie it just seemed silly, maybe if it was done in more of a battle context like 2 or 3 Predators and a squad of colonial marines or something it might seem more plausible.

 

[p!tu]

No, I only got into the movies in the last 6-7 years. It may be accurrate to the comic source material, and maybe in the comics it played out better but in the movie it just seemed silly, maybe if it was done in more of a battle context like 2 or 3 Predators and a squad of colonial marines or something it might seem more plausible.

 

[bagelsncheesey]