Luis138
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Who came first? The Alien queen or the Alien egg?
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OOoooooooooooo I can answer this one! There are two schools of thought on this one.
The Handheld Dart Gun. In material OUTSIDE of the movie, the Predator has a dart gun that is a round C shaped weapon and in the movie, it seems to be outlined when he is cloaked and shoots the dart. Check it out:
The second group believe that in the movie, the C shape seen in cloaked mode is just a fluke and it's really the Predator's body or something and the dart is fired from the a slot above or below the wrist blades in the gauntlet. I believe this is wrong, if you look at shots of the suit, there is clearly no slot of any kind below or under the blades...
For whatever reason, they simply chose not to show us how it was fired uncloaked so we can only guess.
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I must be in a third group then cuz I don't believe EITHER of those above explanations. I think it's simply fired from the left Gauntlet, the same one P2 fires a missle from that hits Harrigan's body armor in the slaughterhouse. There's plenty of behind-the-scenes pics and footage from Predator 2 and NONE of it shows that supposed spear gun being in that movie.
And That spear gun is actually from the first Predator movie. That's what initially hits Blaine BEFORE the Plasma Cannon kills him.
And That spear gun is actually from the first Predator movie. That's what initially hits Blaine BEFORE the Plasma Cannon kills him.
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Noob question here goes...
We learn in AVP that Preds breed aliens to hunt for sport so
A, where do the facehugger eggs come from?
B, are the facehuggers/ aliens in the 4 orginal alien films therefore created by predators? how did the Preds come to misplace them so that Ripleys crew could find them?
We learn in AVP that Preds breed aliens to hunt for sport so
A, where do the facehugger eggs come from?
B, are the facehuggers/ aliens in the 4 orginal alien films therefore created by predators? how did the Preds come to misplace them so that Ripleys crew could find them?
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A small question about sequels. Why does it take so long for Terminator sequels when most other films normally have a sequel on average a year or two after the original. The first film was in 1984 and the second was 7 years later in '91 and T3 was even longer with 12 years and finally T4 was another 6 years later. Cheers 
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stoods77 said:
Paradox. Sarah should've known by John simply existing, that proves NOTHING she could do in an attempt to "destroy" Skynet would work.
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Baby Jesus.
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A) You see in the temple the Preds have an Alien Queen in captivity. So that seems to be how they get eggs. They used human sacrafices in the past for hosts.
B) This is why AVP/AVP:R sucked so much. Things like this. You see in AVP:R in the trophy room not only is there F'n Dinosaur skulls, but there's also a skull of a Space Jockey (from Alien). Which suggests Predators have had contact not only with Aliens, Dinosaurs and humans.. but also the Space Jockey race. It's all FUBAR and makes no sense.
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the eggs were all destroyed by the explosion and the queen was dragged to the bottom of the ocean so would that suggest the end of normal aliens? all other aliens afterwards coem from the predalien impregnating women
the eggs that are found in Alien 1...where did they come from? Does Alien take place after AVP or before?
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Negative sir... what hits him is a plasma cannon shot that they didn't add the blue haze effect to in post production. It's fired at him to turn him around and the next one goes clean through his chest. Close ups from DVD show the shape of both "blobs" are the exact same shape, just one has the blue haze and the other doesn't.
As you said, no material shows where the dart comes from, we can only guess. But in watching the movie in slow-mo, it clearly fires from a round shaped object in his hand in cloaked mode. It's also fired from the RIGHT side of his body, not his left.. and there are no slots on either gaunt for the dart to fire from that you can see.
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Alien would theoretically take place hundreds of years AFTER AvP, which is why AvP is ^^^^ing stupid. The ENTIRE PREMISE OF EVERY ALIEN MOVIE is Ripley doing everything in her power to stop Aliens from reaching planet earth... OH ^^^^ SORRY RIPLEY!!! Turns out they've been there for hundreds of years already, you fail har har!
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Aliens are bio-mechanical weapons created by a superior alien race and one of their crafts crashes in to LV-426 known as the derelict spacecraft. The craft is there for thousands of years with alien eggs stored in stasis chambers until accidentally re-animated by crew members of the Nostromo and the ^^^^ hits the fan.
Hence why the entire premise of AvP is retarded in the sense that the plot of the movie is that in our current time Predators have been hosting Alien hunts on Earth.
John already existed in the timeline when they destroy the Cyberdyne building. If he were born in the future of those events, it might have had an effect. However, Doc Brown would agree with you that altering the timeline would mean the future-born Kyle would never be sent back to '84, and John should have started to disappear.
I've heard theories that the biomechanical look of the LV 426 Aliens was the result of genetic engineering. Predators are as good an explanation as any for the source of the engineering, though I choose to believe they are from something even more alien. Being engineered suggests that either the Queen or the egg could have come first depending on how the first specimen was created.
Never seen any evidence of that gun in behind the scenes material, but, like the Elder's sword and the Gort bio, there were a couple unused things form P1 that made an appearance in P2. I do agree that Blaine was first hit by something other than a plasma blast. The plasma blast blew a hole through him. The first shot hit him in the neck, but merely stunned him to limit his manueverability. If that was a plasma shot, it should have taken his head off.
The Aliens franchise existed before the Predator franchise, and separately from the AVP universe innitially. The Predator franchise incorporated Aliens because of the skull on the P2 ship which was their not as a back story, but because the Winston team thought it would be a great nod to another Fox license they had worked on. The events of AVP do not HAVE TO be related in any way to the events surrounding Ripley. Yes, Predators hunt Aliens, but I don't choose to believe that they are directly responsible for their existance.
A small question about sequels. Why does it take so long for Terminator sequels when most other films normally have a sequel on average a year or two after the original. The first film was in 1984 and the second was 7 years later in '91 and T3 was even longer with 12 years and finally T4 was another 6 years later. Cheers
The problem is that the rights and licenses keep getting tossed around. Also, until T3, the franchise installments were not written to be ongoing, but to be a self contained story. T2 cashed in on T1, but was supposed to be the end of it until somebody decided to cash in again.
B)You see in AVP:R in the trophy room not only is there F'n Dinosaur skulls, but there's also a skull of a Space Jockey (from Alien). Which suggests Predators have had contact not only with Aliens, Dinosaurs and humans.. but also the Space Jockey race. It's all FUBAR and makes no sense.
I like that there are dino skulls like the Trike, but you're right that it's a stretch to accept that Preds have been around and visiting Earth for 65 million years. Perhaps they are from similar looking creatures that evolved on other planets. The Space Jockey skull is as acceptable as an Alien's though.
Alien exists separately from Predator. To pressume that Preds are responsible for everything we've seen in the Aliens franchise is ridiculous. That's like Freddy vs Jason suggesting that Jason drowned in the lake because Freddy was ^^^^ing one of the counselors. Thank God that was a nightmare sequence.
But they chose not to add the blue for some reason, and the shot in the neck didn't produce the same damage as the shot that went through him. Comparatively, it barely did any damage at all except to stun him. Don't know what it was meant to be in the end, but a dart sounds like what it looked like.
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Exaclty my thinking on the subject. Hated the fact that they cheaped out on the story for both AVP movies by putting them in our time and on Earth. Anytime Aliens are involved it should be in space as far as I'm concerned. I would rather see Preds in space, too.
A great future set movie would be to suggest that the Space Jockeys engineered Aliens as a means to make biological warfare on the Predators who had been violating their kind and others in the galaxy, but Preds chose to hunt Aliens as well. The LV 426 derelict may have been on its way to drop the eggs on a Pred homeworld.
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That idea just made me drool.
Faken
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The lack of blue is an admitted error in post production, completely accidental. The shot does not hit his neck, it grazes off his shoulder and blood is sprayed on his neck from the blast. The shot is meant to turn him around to face the Predator before firing off the killing blow. Honor of the kill wand whatnot... lol
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Yep, I think that's an awesome idea and a good way to tie it in instead of the nonsense they came up with. And if they needed humans in the story, they could have easily had a ship of human explorers or whatever crash land in to a Predator planet in the middle of one of these wars. I've actually mentioned this kind of story line before, it's a real shame they didn't do something like this instead of that lame ^^^^ on earth in our present time.
Always looked like a neck hit, but I guess that was the splatter. Hmmm. I'm going to have to open my brand new Dutch I just got delivered to my work and watch some P1 tonight.
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Another fun fact IF I rememebr correctly... the "shape" of the plasma bolt is actually the silouette of the mothership from the beginning of the movie when it does the fly-by scene
An idea I had for human characters could be the origin of the Colonial Marines. Perhaps some special team like the one Peter Keyes headed is tracking another Pred in our not too distant future. Once it takes its trophy and leaves the planet, we have a spacecraft of marines ready to follow it into space for recon. Our ship gets spotted, etc., etc.
Or, idea 2, much like the AVP books, their are human settlers on M-class or terraformed worlds who get targetted by Preds. The AVP books were pretty weak, but they do have good jumping off points for a great screenwriter.
Another fun fact IF I rememebr correctly... the "shape" of the plasma bolt is actually the silouette of the mothership from the beginning of the movie when it does the fly-by scene
Well, that has WTF written all over it, doesn't it?
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