Aliens,Predator and Terminator Q&A (Anything!)

[SilentSurfer]

T3 started to focus too much on john connor (played by a bad actor given bad lines) and was just ridiculous i.e forced humor (glasses scene). The female lead in t3 was tosh. She was a model but couldn't act. Showing a frowning face is not akin to good acting and can't be considered anywhere near the role robert patrick played as the t1000 where there was real menace. Basically the problem with the movies are cameron didn't direct them.

I disagree somewhat. T2 focused way too much on John. The franchise is called "Terminator". It should be about the Terminators and what they do. Instead, it became about John and how he only survives because of Terminators??? WTF happened here? I think Cameron ^^^^ed it up himself. T3 and TS are what we are left with after Cameron wiped his ass with his own concept.

T-1000 had presence, but the T-X was the second most machine-like to me. As for frowning, Robert Patrick did that all over T2

 

[Dizzyarse]

Okay, I have a Terminator question...
How does Skynet know what John Connor looks like when in every film (and the TV series) he has been played by different actors?
Dizzy

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

Okay, I have a Terminator question...
How does Skynet know what John Connor looks like when in every film (and the TV series) he has been played by different actors?
Dizzy

Well John like any person now days probably has Facebook! yes thtas right Arnie tracks him via Facebook!

 

[Mikey2Bullets]

Okay, I have a Terminator question...
How does Skynet know what John Connor looks like when in every film (and the TV series) he has been played by different actors?
Dizzy

dna sample and mass amounts of calculations/extrapolations? picture from california youth services and guess work? skynet has a sketch artist?

 

[Luis138]

Ok, an Alien question. So their life cycle is: egg-facehugger-chest burster-adult, right? Have they said how long it takes from chest burster to adult? Have they ever shown the "teenager" Alien in any movie?

Also, has any movie or comic book shown the Alien planet?

Luis

 

[SilentSurfer]

Okay, I have a Terminator question...
How does Skynet know what John Connor looks like when in every film (and the TV series) he has been played by different actors?
Dizzy

I get the joke in the question.

Seriously, though, Skynet would not know. The T-1000 would only know what he looks like as a boy because of the picture his foster parents gave him in T2. The 1000 found their address from the Police Cruiser's computer. Otherwise, it has no idea.

In T3, the T-X only knew who he was because of the blood sample just before making contact with him. He would have looked pretty much like future John by then regardless.

Skynet would only know the John that kicked its ass in 2029. That's what makes TS such crap. How does it know who Kyle is, and how important he is to John, who it shouldn't know yet either.

The Skynet before its own fall would not know about the fall unless you take T3 into account. The T-X's accessing of the internet to locate John's team is the only way Skynet could now know about John in TS, but that still doesn't explain Kyle. In fact, it seems like it was a virus that the T-X launched into the net that forced CSR to allow Skynet to go online and become instantly self aware in this timeline anyway.

 

[SilentSurfer]

Ok, an Alien question. So their life cycle is: egg-facehugger-chest burster-adult, right? Have they said how long it takes from chest burster to adult? Have they ever shown the "teenager" Alien in any movie?

Also, has any movie or comic book shown the Alien planet?

Luis

Nobody knows for sure. I'd actually like to find out myself. In AVP it was less than ten minutes for each phase based on the shifting of the pyramid during those scenes, but we already know that's bull^^^^.

In A3, gestation seemed to take a while (several days to a week at least), but it's speculated that a Queen takes longer, or the sedative she was taken slowed it down.

In A1, gestation took about a day and half based on how long it took them to fix the ship before leaving the planet before the facehugger dropped off.

A3 seemed to show a 'teenage' Alien when it was hiding in the air shafts and attacked the guy scraping the tunnel. It was large, but still shedding. But how long it takes to go from burster to adult is sketchy. Even in Alien, it seemed very quick. By the time they gathered equipment to search for the burster it had already grown into full size and attacked Brett.

"This son of a ^^^^^ is huge. It, it's like a man. It's big." -Parker

 

[Mikey2Bullets]

Ok, an Alien question. So their life cycle is: egg-facehugger-chest burster-adult, right? Have they said how long it takes from chest burster to adult? Have they ever shown the "teenager" Alien in any movie?

Also, has any movie or comic book shown the Alien planet?

Luis

one could argue that the avp aliens were altered to develop faster to provide a tougher challenge for the preds. they had that in some of the comics. do i think that? no, i think paul ws anderson should have stopped at event horizon and gone out on top.

 

[SilentSurfer]

I have a question which has no answer in any movies. Just want to know what you guys can come up with.

Since Aliens don't seem to eat (except maybe A3), how do their cells divide and multiply to grow into such a large creature so quickly? What is the fuel source?

Is it cooler not trying to justify them by Earth science standards?

 

[Garo Predator]

Ok,

Reese said they had rubber skin. But the timeline has changed since T1 and T-2, Skynet lost the T-800 arm and chip at the end of T2. Nothing to base a T-600 on the had primitive designs. e.g Large size.

They don't just kill him because maybe Skynets enjoying him in pain. And the fact the movie could be over in 5 mins!

T-800 at the gun shop, that T-800 may have been rushed off the production line to be sent back. Reese said Skynets defence grid was smashed, Skynet was clutching at straws.

He was rushed off the production line because of this.
https://video.yahoo.com/network/100284668?v...6&l=3774739

 

[Crimsonbob]

I have a question which has no answer in any movies. Just want to know what you guys can come up with.

Since Aliens don't seem to eat (except maybe A3), how do their cells divide and multiply to grow into such a large creature so quickly? What is the fuel source?

Is it cooler not trying to justify them by Earth science standards?

Wolf pred killed an alien having a munch on the guy he dragged out of the window in AVPR, but aye it does seem weird they grow so quick.

Personally i reckon they grow from poo spores from when everyone runs around cacking themselves.

 

[a-dev]

Granted, but John never said that, and they weren't watching TV at any point. That just came off like a Terminator ad lib which was meant for laughs, but it just makes me cringe every time. That one line blows the whole feel of the movie for me. It is unforgivable that Arnies humor phase was allowed to infiltrate that movie.



Given the alternate timeline principle, I don't have any problem with T3. Yes, Arnold wasn't the T he was in T1, but he sure as hell wasn't the T in T2 either. In fact, he was closer to T1 in T3, than in T2. At he was the one that eventually killed John. To me, his portrayal in T2 ruined the Terminator image for me. Great action movie though it was, there was so much more wrong with T2 in my mind that T3 gets a pass. Mostly, and I know he had to to further the story of Dyson, I hated that he talked so damn much. Respond to questions, yes, but to ask why people cry, to be curious about something, is so anti-machine.

I assume the ''I need a vacation'' line was something the terminator picked up offscreen. Obviously the reality is Arnie stuck it in as a bit of improv but I don't think its far fetched, given the other things he learnt from John, that he would come out with that.

The core problem I guess is that we were seeing a Terminator who was doing more infiltrating and learning from humans than he was killing. John ordered him not to kill anyone in T2 so I can forgive the fact that they didn't show him being brutal in that film. Though perhaps whoever said it earlier was right, he should have been seen killing people in the bar when he first arrived. He was met with no less resistance in that scene than the terminator in T1 from Bill paxton etc. So theres really no reason why he wouldn't have killed anyone there. As for the scenes where he shows curiosity - part of his learning programming I would suppose, tying into his infiltration purposes.

The T3 Terminator was the same only, apart from ''Talk to the hand'' we didn't see any of the interractions that taught him most of the other crap he came out with. Unless we're to suppose that his learning computer was switched on by kate brewster (and maybe she ordered him not to kill any humans) before he was sent back in time but I would have liked some referance to this if it was the case. Because as we have it its just a nicey nice Terminator not being very Terminator-like for reasons we are unaware of. No killing or even injuring anyone to remind us what he is supposed to be and to offset the jokey tone of the film overall.

Ultimately I prefer cold Arnie in T1 and thats the better film but for what it is I find T2's treatment of the Terminator plausible enough (because of his interracting with a child etc) - just not what I prefer to watch.

 

[uscmhicks]

What?

I don't know , I'm just making this up as I go.

 

[SilentSurfer]

No killing or even injuring anyone to remind us what he is supposed to be and to offset the jokey tone of the film overall.

Ultimately I prefer cold Arnie in T1 and thats the better film but for what it is I find T2's treatment of the Terminator plausible enough (because of his interracting with a child etc) - just not what I prefer to watch.

Eye to eye on that one, a-dev.

 

[sscalltheway]

I have a question about Predator statues. I have been wanting to get a statue lately but it seems the only way you can buy one for reasonable money is one that is unassembled and unpainted. When you assemble the statue do you have to use glue to get it together? And when you paint it do they tell you what colors to buy and where too put them?

 

[CelticPredator]

I AM CALM!!!!!





I'll be cool from now on. I just bugs me when people come up with stuff that has no basis in the movie they are trying to rationalize. I will give you this though, there really is no reason Skynet couldn't have hidden a future weapon inside some skin or inside the Terminator's body somehow. I guess T3 is exactly what it did with the T-X though.

Bugs me too. So, i'm with ya.

The T-800 in Salvation just mimiced (?) Kyle's voice. That is all. We didnt see him talk because there was no need. Connor heard the voice, walked to it, saw the T-800. Simple as that/.

 

[CelticPredator]

Nobody knows for sure. I'd actually like to find out myself. In AVP it was less than ten minutes for each phase based on the shifting of the pyramid during those scenes, but we already know that's bull^^^^.

In A3, gestation seemed to take a while (several days to a week at least), but it's speculated that a Queen takes longer, or the sedative she was taken slowed it down.

In A1, gestation took about a day and half based on how long it took them to fix the ship before leaving the planet before the facehugger dropped off.

A3 seemed to show a 'teenage' Alien when it was hiding in the air shafts and attacked the guy scraping the tunnel. It was large, but still shedding. But how long it takes to go from burster to adult is sketchy. Even in Alien, it seemed very quick. By the time they gathered equipment to search for the burster it had already grown into full size and attacked Brett.

"This son of a ^^^^^ is huge. It, it's like a man. It's big." -Parker

The Alien just can. It's an Alien. It doesnt need cells. It doesnt grow like we do.

I'm in the camp that Aliens dont need to eat. They just kill to protect. I think they would only eat right after they are born....and thats it. Alien 3, it never eats, it just mauls.

From the time that the Alien bursts, to the end of the movie, is 24 hours. So, it only takes a few hours to grow full size.
But to gestiate in a host, it takes atleast 24 hours. 2 days max.

 

[ShazBo]

Wolf pred killed an alien having a munch on the guy he dragged out of the window in AVPR, but aye it does seem weird they grow so quick.

Personally i reckon they grow from poo spores from when everyone runs around cacking themselves.

AVP's logic was flawed to start with. Aliens seem to grow to full size in minutes and people get chestbusted within seconds of waking up which is stupid. In Alien you get the sense that time goes by before you see the full size Xenomorph kill Brett. In Alien 3 you'll notice the Dog Xenomorph gets bigger and bigger through out the movie.

Stop following the logic of AVP! It's not an actual Alien movie... nor a Predator movie for that matter.

 

[nicky]

TERMINATOR 2:

Why didn't the T-800 kill the bar patrons that attacked him at the start when the T1 T-800 did kill the punks who also attacked him?

T2: Only kills as it needs to. Each threat is met with just enough force needed to eliminate it. It's not a thrill killer.

But in T2 the T-800 is stabbed, hit with a pool cue and has a cigar put out on him. That's helluva lot more than what the punks did in T1. The same T1 T-800 would have killed the bar patrons. Maybe the T2 T-800 didn't kill the bar patrons cos he was in a public place and didnt want too much attention from killing - it was ok to kill the punks cos it was a dark steet corner with no witnesses.

 

[tylerdurden]

Yes it does. Couldn't agree more. Arnie became a cartoon even in T2 with line like, "I need a vacation." WTF is that ^^^^? Talk about knocking you out of a movie.

To me, his portrayal in T2 ruined the Terminator image for me. Great action movie though it was, there was so much more wrong with T2 in my mind that T3 gets a pass. Mostly, and I know he had to to further the story of Dyson, I hated that he talked so damn much. Respond to questions, yes, but to ask why people cry, to be curious about something, is so anti-machine.

sorry dude, but gotta disagree with u.

arnie's "i need a vacation" line may have been an obvious ad lib by the star. but i think it fit in with his character's growth as a "learning computer". he was picking up more human personality traits as time passed. he was never going to end up all emo, but he was certainly beginning to comprehend the complexities of human character and feelings. saying "i need a vacation" was probably the t800's way of simulating and expressing exasperation at his beat-up state, as well as attempting to convey humour.

the irony is that the more human he got inside, the more inhuman he looked on the outside.

and asking "why people cry" makes perfect sense if he is indeed learning abt human behavior. think abt it---crying or laughing is actually a very peculiar human trait. even among the higher animal species on earth, tears and laughter are very rare. and that is cameron's ULTIMATE point in t2---that if even a machine, a terminator, can learn the value of human life, then maybe we can too. and knowing the value of human life comes thru understanding what it's like and what it MEANS to be human in the first place.

i didn't think it spoiled the t800 character at all. because technology in itself is amoral, neither good nor evil. it's what u use it for that makes the difference. just so happens, cameron was taking a somewhat pacifist stance in t2, to demonstrate the "good" use of technology to effect good.

so i love t2 for that level of depth and meaning.