Avatar: The Way of Water

[Khev]

Like seriously who does that….

That explains JAWS’s feelings on T2…

Here is JAWS at the start of the 3rd act…

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And karamazov making his way to the door as the X-Wings arrive at Scarif:

 

[Khev]

Superman 4 for me.

I was ashamed.

I was depressed.

I was hungry.

Jason X for me. It was just so, so bad, lol.

 

[jye4ever]

And karamazov making his way to the door as the X-Wings arrive at Scarif:

Holy crap I just burst out lolz next to my boss lolz

 

[Khev]

 

[Wor-Gar]

I'll be seeing this guy next Tuesday so I'll get the scoop on why he walked out. He's 28.

 

[Otomofan]

Khev really really really likes new movies.

He's at one end of the spectrum; the guy that walked out of this movie is at the other.

I gotta believe most viewers are gonna be like me: it was OK. It was just OK. It didn't completely suck, but it didn't change my life in any way. It was a movie.

And I definitely don't think the last act was anything to write home about....

Spoiler

it's just "Titanic" again but this time the people in the sinking boat are already blue BEFORE the ship goes down.

We've been inundated with these CGI cartoon/movies for well over 20 years now. It's not impressive. It's just animation. I'm much more impressed when people manage to shoot cool stuff in real life like the fighter jets in Maverick.

Speaking of Tom Cruise...did you guys see that 10 minute behind the scenes clip they posted from his latest Mission Impossible movie where he's riding the motorcycle off the cliff? Made my balls retract just watching it...scary stuff!

 

[Khev]

Khev really really really likes new movies.

Why I oughta....

In my defense though I rarely go to the theater any more and have gotten pretty good at pre-selecting movies that I am very likely to enjoy. That wasn't the case with Jurassic World Dominion though, hated that one right from the get go. And Black Adam, skipped that one on the big screen and 10 minutes of it on HBO Max told me I absolutely made the right call, lol. I'll probably still finish it just for the lolz though.

But there have been other terrible movies that I enjoyed for one reason or another on a first viewing only to go "what was I thinking" on the second. ID4-2 and Dark Fate come to mind. Now at least for AWOW I *have* watched it twice and enjoyed it even more the second time.

Still, I never expect anyone to take my reviews with anything more than a grain of salt, lol.

 

[Otomofan]

There are some movies I absolutely cherish that I never mention out loud cause they're totally guilty pleasure movies.

I'm with you on Black Adam though...it's been on the torrent sites for a month or so, but I can't even be bothered to skim through it for free. Just looks like utter dung.

Ditto for Jurassic Park sequels.

ID4-2 was one of the worst movies ever made. Everyone involved in any way should be burned at the stake.

 

[Wor-Gar]

have gotten pretty good at pre-selecting movies that I am very likely to enjoy.

I think a lot of people are doing that now. Years ago, I'd see a movie I knew I was likely not going to like just to have something to do. Saw a lot of bad 90s and 00s movies that way. But it was a cheap diversion to spend time with friends and there was always the trailers.

But particularly in this time, with movie costs and giant TVs at home, I really don't set out to the movies unless I believe its really my cup of tea and needs to be seen on a giant screen with idiots checking their cellphones. Maverick was the last so urge. I saw the last Bond which I didn't enjoy and I'll see Indy 5 which I'm certain not to enjoy, but that's Bond and Indy, that's my childhood.

Now I can't even tell you what movie I'm looking forward to anymore like I used to. I used to know a year or more in advance what movie I wanted to see in the summer of blah-blah. That time, and good times they were, has passed.

 

[Khev]

I think a lot of people are doing that now. Years ago, I'd see a movie I knew I was likely not going to like just to have something to do. Saw a lot of bad 90s and 00s movies that way. But it was a cheap diversion to spend time with friends and there was always the trailers.

Totally. I still keep a log of every movie I see on the big screen and it looks like 2017 was the last hurrah of that kind of "go see everything" mentality. I saw 21 different films at the theater that year, including random stuff like "I, Tonya", "Ladybird", "A Ghost Story", etc. But those days are probably gone for good.

But particularly in this time, with movie costs and giant TVs at home, I really don't set out to the movies unless I believe its really my cup of tea and needs to be seen on a giant screen with idiots checking their cellphones. Maverick was the last so urge. I saw the last Bond which I didn't enjoy and I'll see Indy 5 which I'm certain not to enjoy, but that's Bond and Indy, that's my childhood.

Now I can't even tell you what movie I'm looking forward to anymore like I used to. I used to know a year or more in advance what movie I wanted to see in the summer of blah-blah. That time, and good times they were, has passed.

Sad but true. My most anticipated films right now are all a full 1-2 years away:

Dune Part Two (late 2023)
Furiosa starring Anya Taylor-Joy (2024)
Avatar 3 (ugh is it really going to be called The Seed Bearer??) - late 2024

 

[choombaz]

Someone mentioned trailers so I thought I would drop this here. I love and hate this. Love that Marvel might not be able to do their shenanigans anymore but hate we won’t get great teasers anymore (although they have mostly gone away anyway).

https://www.slashfilm.com/1146027/n...entially-liable-for-deceptive-movie-trailers/

 

[Wor-Gar]

Dune Part Two (late 2023)
Furiosa starring Anya Taylor-Joy (2024)

Definitely looking forward to those. And until you mentioned them, I couldn't remember one film I was looking forward to.

Maybe Guardians 3... but I feel like Gunn humor has been played out now.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Someone mentioned trailers so I thought I would drop this here. I love and hate this. Love that Marvel might not be able to do their shenanigans anymore but hate we won’t get great teasers anymore (although they have mostly gone away anyway).

https://www.slashfilm.com/1146027/n...entially-liable-for-deceptive-movie-trailers/

I think that's pretty shady to advertise someone who isn't even in the movie.

I mean, its one thing to say a bad movie is good, as that's simply opinion, but trailers have long pushed the limits. Going way back, I always remember how the Blade Runner trailer was made to look like a futuristic action flick after Raiders. Or even further back, how King Kong '76 was promoted as having a completely mechanical giant ape (like Bruce the shark) which ended up literally being in one shot where it looked terrible and the rest was Rick Baker (which they never mentioned). Certainly trailers have flavored movies in the most audience-friendly way possible for decades...

The movie business is strange. It's the only business where, if you're not satisfied with the product, you can't get your money back. If the movie is just god awful, like Cool World, you shuld be able to ask for your money back. Of course, I realize everyone would then lie and, for example, go watch Star Wars and after its over demand their money back because they didn't fly by one "star" the entire film.

 

[Khev]

Someone mentioned trailers so I thought I would drop this here. I love and hate this. Love that Marvel might not be able to do their shenanigans anymore but hate we won’t get great teasers anymore (although they have mostly gone away anyway).

https://www.slashfilm.com/1146027/n...entially-liable-for-deceptive-movie-trailers/

Studios can easily just have small text at the bottom of the screen that says "scenes in trailer may not appear in the final film" or whatever and then just keep doing what they've been doing which wouldn't be too different than the "this film has not yet been rated" disclaimer.

That's still a dumb lawsuit though. What's next, suing movies for tricking audiences with a "twist" ending? "Hey, the whole movie made me think that Bruce Willis was alive, I was deceived!"

 

[choombaz]

I know, it’s a slippery slope. There was a shot of Laura Dern in the Jurassic Park trailer that didn’t end up in the movie. That’s not false advertising, that’s just a shot that was in the early cut when they released the trailer while they were still making the film and later on decided it wasn’t important. I don’t think that sort of thing is a big deal.

 

[Khev]

I was actually pretty peeved last year settling in to watch Dune and then seeing that big "Part One" appear on the screen. I was like wait is the movie going to be broken down into chapters like some Tarantino flicks or am I really about to watch half a movie?? So annoying.

I also bought into the "It all ends here" tagline of Infinity War and was surprised when Thanos won at the end. I was even like wait did they just end the entire MCU on a downer?? Lol, I don't fault them for that one though because I thought it was a great twist (and it helped that IW was a near perfect film in its own right.)

 

[Wor-Gar]

Shots in the trailer and not in the movie have been going on for decades too, and that's not really the point.

If a particular angle of a high speed chase didn't make the final cut that's one thing, but if the trailer emphasizes a major car chase and then that car chase doesn't appear in the film at all, I can see that being a problem for audiences. Especially if it was the only car chase.

Using Indy 5 as an example, what if that whole NY parade sequence just never appeared in the movie? For me, that's probably a good thing, but fans of parades could be triggered.

 

[Khev]

If a particular angle of a high speed chase didn't make the final cut that's one thing, but if the trailer emphasizes a major car chase and then that car chase doesn't appear in the film at all, I can see that being a problem for audiences. Especially if it was the only car chase.

Like the T-Rex stomping around the Drive-In theater which was a better sequence than anything that actually did appear in Dominion. The tire flying through the windshield in Twister was memorable for being the biggest wow moment of the trailer and then never appearing in the finished film. I remember one of the TV spots for T2 showing Reese telling Sarah that she's got to save their son which totally had me thinking that the "good" shape-changing Terminator was going to take Reese's form. Quite the bait and switch there, especially since I was wrongly assuming Arnold to be the villain again from the get go.

Probably nothing will top the Alien 3 teaser though. "In 1979 we learned that in space no one can hear you scream. In 1992 we'll learn that on Earth everyone can hear you scream..."

Using Indy 5 as an example, what if that whole NY parade sequence just never appeared in the movie? For me, that's probably a good thing, but fans of parades could be triggered.

 

[choombaz]

I just want all films to have Ana De Armas

 

[Khev]

I just want all films to have Ana De Armas

I know right. Let's just sue any movie that doesn't include her whether she's advertised or not, lol.