Avengers: Endgame

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

That dog is so damn mean

The Martin Clouseau was an abomination -- not to the Hulk level, but you know -- but I do kind of wish someone would take up the mantle and revive Clouseau as a franchise comedy. Like they say, they don't make movies like that anymore. Not anymore.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

If the Film only gave us the Real Professor Hulk.. I would have been happy.

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He's very handsome. It's too distracting.

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

The Martin Clouseau was an abomination -- not to the Hulk level, but you know -- but I do kind of wish someone would take up the mantle and revive Clouseau as a franchise comedy. Like they say, they don't make movies like that anymore. Not anymore.

I was going to make a Joke about Martin being better then Sellers.

What about Roger Moore?? He played him in the awful Curse of the Pink Panther Which is a little better then Son of the Pink Panther.

I always thought Kevin Kline might have been able to do it. (Which is weird because he ended up playing Dreyfus in the Martin films) . I dont remember if I thought it after A Fish Called Wanda or some other comedy.. But I thought he might be able to do it if he could get the voice and mannerims down..

But man Peter Sellers owned that role.. I am not sure anyone else could ever do it.

As for the Sellers films..

There is a three way tie between A Shot in the Dark, the Pink Panther Returns, and Strikes Again as too which is my fav.. It use to be Strikes again but I have seen it so many times.

The "It is" quote I always use if from Revenge of the Pink Panther which is my least fav of the True Peter Sellers film.. Well maybe the original is my least fav since he is hardly in it and had not really figured out the character yet.. I don't count Trail of the Pink Panther since its mostly clips of other movies.


Man.. I have to talk about Pink Panther films now to make myself feel better about Hulk ​

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

He's very handsome. It's too distracting.

Apparently there was a bunch of "Is it weird I want to **** the Incredible Hulk? " and "The Hulk is Hot" Tweets after EG came out..

Well done Russo's

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Apparently there was a bunch of "Is it weird I want to **** the Incredible Hulk? " and "The Hulk is Hot" Tweets after EG came out..

Okay no more Twitter for you.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Apparently there was a bunch of "Is it weird I want to **** the Incredible Hulk? " and "The Hulk is Hot" Tweets after EG came out..

Well done Russo's

And those were just a few of my tweets.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

There is a three way tie between A Shot in the Dark, the Pink Panther Returns, and Strikes Again as too which is my fav.. It use to be Strikes again but I have seen it so many times.

I thought that too about Kevin Kline after Fish. That's funny.

For me, its Shot in the Dark. That movie just has this great balance between slapstick but still with a dark edge. Mostly because of Mancini's music. But then I'm a huge Great Race fan as a child.

From his first shot: "We must find that woman"... and off the globe he goes. It was just brilliant.

The ones in the 70's had some great gags, but Sellers was getting a little long in the tooth and a bit of cliché on his own humor.


I remember as a child being fascinated where he came from -- a comedic side character in The Pink Panther that was so popular that he got his own movie, then franchise.

Imagine:

Spicolli: The Movie

Quint: The Early Years

 

[e30ernest]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

And I don't believe them re the hammer and I don't think that's what Whedon had in mind.

I wish they had just left any explanations more "mystical" e.g. Cap had almost been able to lift the hammer before. We've already been told "relics" determine when you are worthy, and that may not make sense to humans. I don't see why the hammer isn't something similar to a relic.
It's the second time in films that the hammer has determined that a human being about to selflessly give their life in the face of complete destruction is worthy.

If they need to explain it at all - IMO they wanted Cap to wield the hammer whether it made sense or not. Past that I don't believe the Russos.

Agreed. Unless Whedon told them specifically that this was his intent when writing AoU, I call BS. It also conveniently ignores the late scene where Cap, IM and Thor discuss Vision lifting the hammer, when Cap uses the elevator analogy.



I find this a much more believable theory.



I don't see it that way. Vision is artificial, so as Cap said - he's like an elevator. We saw him wield Mjolnir, but he never summoned it like Cap.

Whedon himself did hint at the possibility that Cap "stopped" rather than failed to lift the hammer. Quote from a 2015 article:

Let’s really talk about the Thor’s hammer bit that ran throughout Age of Ultron.

“How is Steve Rogers not worthy?” a fan asked. “Is he not? Are we sure?” Whedon responded, a hint of teasing in his voice. “Did he fail? Or did he stop?”

Source: https://www.4ye.co.uk/2015/07/sdcc-...ss-whedon-answers-tough-questions-at-nerd-hq/

Relevant interview (20:00 mark):

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

 

[e30ernest]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

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I would have said Cameron was classy for recognizing a superhero flick, but then I started thinking about all the people sinking in the Titanic at that photo....

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Avengers logo sinking the Titanic.....ummm lol

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Man Cap’s rematch with Red Skull on Vormir would’ve been epic....

Now that I think about it that looks like Snoke’s throne room lol



Supposedly at one point dud to lack of funds the director ran out of film but kept shooting anyways because he was afraid to tell the eastern europe crew because they were known for assaulting directors and producers if checks bounced lol

 

[JAWS]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

A1 may still be more re-watchable than EG... so Hulk might be saved over time.

I mean, honestly, the only thing people will rewatch over and over and over in EG is the last hour.

It's like Matrix Reloaded -- you watch the last 45 minutes, nothing else.

I'll watch all of IW, and the last hour of EG and have a full 3.5 hours of insane MCU finale.

I cant even sit through the last 45 min of Reloaded..

We will speak on this again in a full year's time.

If you can still watch the first hour of EG with giddy enthusiasm than I shall not take your first born.

Does everyone include the funeral scene as part of the exciting last hour?

If not I am willing to bet that if you time that final Thanos fight its only about a 1/2 hour long.


I did like the Cap, IM, Thor vs Thanos part and feel that that was the standout scene in the film.

Other then the splash shot, "Avengers Assemble" and "I am Iron Man" I am not a big fan of the big battle. I have watched parts of it on youtube and it just does not grab me like the first fight I mentioned above.


So I am not sure at all how easy repeat viewings are going to be for me personally.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I cant even sit through the last 45 min of Reloaded..



Does everyone include the funeral scene as part of the exciting last hour?

If not I am willing to bet that if you time that final Thanos fight its only about a 1/2 hour long.


I did like the Cap, IM, Thor vs Thanos part and feel that that was the standout scene in the film.

Other then the splash shot, "Avengers Assemble" and "I am Iron Man" I am not a big fan of the big battle. I have watched parts of it on youtube and it just does not grab me like the first fight I mentioned above.


So I am not sure at all how easy repeat viewings are going to be for me personally.

I sat thru viewings 2,3 and 4 without any irritation yes I was irritated on first viewing due to lack of Hulk payoff but once I came to peace with that i’m fully onboard the overall thematic and narrative payoffs.

Seriously I experienced no boredom on all of my repeat viewings.

I am one with the MCU and the MCU is with me.

 

[Sassafras]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Whedon himself did hint at the possibility that Cap "stopped" rather than failed to lift the hammer. Quote from a 2015 article:



Source: https://www.4ye.co.uk/2015/07/sdcc-...ss-whedon-answers-tough-questions-at-nerd-hq/

Thank you for posting that - always happy to be corrected. For me in Ultron it doesn't come across that way - but - these films do leave what I started calling gaps - some things that could be interpreted one way or another. Or maybe the director/editors think something is obvious, but to me it isn't.

Does everyone include the funeral scene as part of the exciting last hour?

If not I am willing to bet that if you time that final Thanos fight its only about a 1/2 hour long.


I did like the Cap, IM, Thor vs Thanos part and feel that that was the standout scene in the film.

Other then the splash shot, "Avengers Assemble" and "I am Iron Man" I am not a big fan of the big battle. I have watched parts of it on youtube and it just does not grab me like the first fight I mentioned above.


So I am not sure at all how easy repeat viewings are going to be for me personally.

IMO the funeral scene was a needed - not something I'd call a "favorite" or even wanna re-watch but people needed some kind of emotional transition.

For me these mega-huge battle scenes are always hard to pull off - re EG thought it's a great, dark, splash panel. I'll pick through frame by frame. But that's the thing - for me and I think for good directors, it's always's gonna come down to the close-in battle shots - one on one or maybe here it was 3 against one. A lot of fun but in the end IMO the standouts are Cap, Thor, and IM against Thanos; and the too-brief &ss-kicking by SW, and the arrival of the missing where the actual battle is concerned.

IMO that's exactly what the Russos wanted.

 

[chewblacca]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I always knew that Cap was worthy of lifting the hammer he just didn’t want to show Thor up.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Stark is a crazy tragic character as written which is amazing he goes and gets married and rushes to have a kid in some form of a false sense of security because I think he knows in his mind what his real inevitable ending is going to be made even more poignant every time Thanos keeps using that terminology, i’m inevitable.

But whatever MCU is just fluff anyways lol

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

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I have at least one Hulk figure from every MCU film, but Endgame will end that streak, short of a "2012 Flashback" figure, 2023 Hulk isn't worthy of my collection.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I have at least one Hulk figure from every MCU film, but Endgame will end that streak, short of a "2012 Flashback" figure, 2023 Hulk isn't worthy of my collection.

So Hulk snap did not impress you lol

Yeah I hear you dude unfortunately same for me.

But I did PO the HT Cap!



always a silver lining somewhere.