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Man Marvel sure lucked out with kicking Terrence Howard to the curb before he totally lost his freaking mind lol


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Just googled him to see what you were talking about and WHOA. I hope for his sake that was the result of an unexpected drug interaction because if not, that man needs help and FAST. :cuckoo:
 
Watched this for the 2nd time last night, and... it's really kind of slow. All that down time being sad in the post-snap world... the time travel stuff was only moderately engaging, with so much time spent on schmaltzy "talk with loved ones"... then finally, the big battle.

Question: how far back in time did Cap go to be with Peggy? Clearly looks like the 50's. Where'd he get the extra juice to get there? Did he NOT replace the PIM juice like he said he would? So he lied? Cap lied?

Also, if he went back to the 50's (let's say 1955) and the current time in Endgame is 2026 (is that right?), then for him its been 71 years when they find him on that bench... PLUS add his age when he went back in time (say 35)... so he's at least around 106 years old on that bench?
 
Watched this for the 2nd time last night, and... it's really kind of slow. All that down time being sad in the post-snap world... the time travel stuff was only moderately engaging, with so much time spent on schmaltzy "talk with loved ones"... then finally, the big battle.

Question: how far back in time did Cap go to be with Peggy? Clearly looks like the 50's. Where'd he get the extra juice to get there? Did he NOT replace the PIM juice like he said he would? So he lied? Cap lied?

Also, if he went back to the 50's (let's say 1955) and the current time in Endgame is 2026 (is that right?), then for him its been 71 years when they find him on that bench... PLUS add his age when he went back in time (say 35)... so he's at least around 106 years old on that bench?

That **** just dont make sense thats why the russo’s tried to explain it but their explanation still doesnt jive. How the **** cap stick the eather back in jane, how did he give the stone back to hydra without issues, how did dark world thor survive without his hammer, how did cap return the ****ing soul stone without a ship. And yes cap would be old as **** and why does that alternate reality cap even have that shield still and what happened to peggys original husband and daughter. Did cap kill him or wipe her daughter out of existence cause if she never married her original husband sharon should cease to exist. If they are two caps who was the cap in first avenger and if thats another steve why was peggy still there taking part in those exploits in Tfa?? There arent two peggys so she cant be in 2 places at one time. Also he broke ****ing time line be doing what he did thereby creating an alternate reality which as we were told in the movie by the ancient one results in disastrous consequences i cant see any cap just siting back ****ing peggy all day while all that bad **** is going on its not his character. He had the knowlege to save bucky before he got captured he could have prevented alot of things but instead he chose to get laid and wipe out her original family. Then he gives the shield, which he shouldnt still have to sam instead of bucky the logical choice **** all that
 
Hmmmm... interesting points. Does Red Skull just accept returns on the soul stone?

And getting that goo into Jane might be tough... though I like the sound of it.


Cap returned the stones, not Pym particles.

Shouldn't he have returned that too? Wouldn't Michael Douglas freak?

So how did Cap get extra Pym juice?

Do you know his age at the end? Is he supposed to be well over 100?
 
Hmmmm... interesting points. Does Red Skull just accept returns on the soul stone?

And getting that goo into Jane might be tough... though I like the sound of it.

As The Ancient One explained all Cap had to do was restore the stones to their respective realities and the alternate timelines would cease to exist. So he literally just had to appear in Asgard in 2013, drop the ether stone on the ground, and it would revert back to mist and re-enter Jane. Same with all the other Stones. His task was actually very easy and didn't require poking Jane, facing the Red Skull or any of that. Just go back to each year, drop off the Stone, and leave. That's why no one else needed to accompany Cap (compared to earlier in the film when they had to send every available Avenger they could.)

Shouldn't he have returned that too? Wouldn't Michael Douglas freak?

So how did Cap get extra Pym juice?

If I remember correctly when Cap and Tony went to 1970 he stole four vials. Two for him and Tony to return to 2023 and two more for his last two trips at the end (though he never used the final vial since he stayed in the past.)

Do you know his age at the end?

Nope, lol.
 
How did he get the soul stone back without a ship hawkeye and widow needed a ship time travel only got them in the right time period but they needed a ship to get there. Cant explain that away. Lets say he had a mysterious ship why did red skull take it back and then why wasnt widow released. The pym particles are another seperate issue its obvious he didnt return them but thats probably what led to the riff between hank and stark senior
 
How did he get the soul stone back without a ship hawkeye and widow needed a ship time travel only got them in the right time period but they needed a ship to get there. Cant explain that away

Both the power and soul stones were from 2014. As soon as he returned to either planet he just had to discard them both onto the ground and the timeline would have corrected itself to return them to their proper places. He didn't need a ship.
 
How did he get to that planet though, he needed a ship so did hawkeye and widow the quantum realm couldnt get them to the planet only the proper time and year

So your saying he only had to go back in time and then drop them on earth and they would go there thats not how hulk explained it they had to be returned to the right place and time not just any place
 
Thats confusing part it was implied they needed a ship to get there. And since he returned it shouldnt widow be back, its as if the stones were never removed so widow should be back thats the problem with this time travel logic they used it dont add up cause everything isnt consistent. Widows sacrafice should have been erased the minute cap went back in time and returned the stone which has to be a minute or two before before she killed herself and hawkeye took it otherwise the stone wouldnt have been back in its spot at the exact time it needed to be. If thor still has his hammer for all of dark world that means that he went back to in time right before thor took it. The same should apply to widow.
 
I think that to make the Soul Stone appear someone needs to permanently die, regardless of how long they keep the Stone. If you have a problem with that then go talk to the red floaty guy since that's what he said, lol.

As for the ship I'm guessing that the idea was that unlike the Stones on Asgard and Earth they didn't know exactly where the Power and Soul Stones even *were* on Morag and Vormir so Rhodey, Nebula, HE, and Widow brought the ship to navigate to the proper places once they arrived in the solar system. That's probably it now that I think of it since all four of them started out in the ship and then separated. They couldn't afford to spend years walking an entire planet so they used the ship to orbit each, locate the most likely spot for the stone, and then touch down.
 
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I think that to make the Soul Stone appear someone needs to permanently die, regardless of how long they keep the Stone. If you have a problem with that then go talk to the red floaty guy since that's what he said, lol. Otherwise I'm guessing that they took the ship just as a contingency in case they ran out of Pym particles or something else went wrong. That way if their suits got damaged or something then HE and Widow wouldn't be stranded on Vormir forever and could at least fly back to 2014 Earth or something. That's just a guess though.

Actually maybe the idea was that unlike the Stones on Asgard and Earth they didn't know exactly where the Power and Soul Stones even *were* on Morag and Vormir so Rhodey, Nebula, HE, and Widow brought the ship to navigate to the proper places once they arrived in the solar system. That's probably it now that I think of it since all four of them started out in the ship and then separated.

That makes sense but still does t explain why widow is still dead, cap returned the stone before any of that **** with her and hawkeye happenedotherwise it wouldnt have been in the right place at right time it would have been missing for a few minties to days

And while im at it what happened to peggys husband and sharon carter?? Cap errased her from existence otherwise none of this **** makes sense there are not two peggys she never time traveled
 
As soon as he returned to either planet he just had to discard them both onto the ground and the timeline would have corrected itself to return them to their proper places.

That seems a little convenient. No wait -- it IS convenient. You should have to replace it in the exact place where it was when it was taken, otherwise the entire conceit breaks down.

So Cap just goes to NY and drops the time stone anywhere and it goes right back to The Ancient One's necklace? So why go to New York, why not China... and why that year then, why not any time prior? Why do you have to go to Earth even, why not anywhere in the Universe... they're Infinity Stones for crying out loud.

If you set up a rule, you have to carry it through. I assumed Cap had to go back to all the places where he "upset" the timeline to return and correct. Otherwise, just toss the stones into the Quantum Zone and let them find their way home.
 
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