Avengers: Endgame

[Khev]

That would have been perfect. The movie is great but it would be actual perfection had it played out this way

I loved Professor Hulk earlier in the movie. He definitely had his place and I wouldn't have begrudged it if only Rivera's idea and what Khev outlined here had been what happened towards the end.

Yeah still an easy 10/10 film for me but rivera showed how easily it could have been a 11/10. If I was primarily a Hulk fan I could easily see myself holding that against the film.

 

[a-dev]

And maybe Stark's death could be the thing that de-Hulks the Hulk and brings back Banner.

My face is in my palms thinking about this stuff now.

 

[Neal136]

This is where it's weird for me. I am a huge Hulk fan, and love the ideas everyone has given over the last page or so ... but I still don't hold any of what we got against Endgame. It's still amazing for me.

 

[Khev]

And maybe Stark's death could be the thing that de-Hulks the Hulk and brings back Banner.

Fantastic.

This is where it's weird for me. I am a huge Hulk fan, and love the ideas everyone has given over the last page or so ... but I still don't hold any of what we got against Endgame. It's still amazing for me.

Yeah what they accomplished both as a film and as a closer to a 23 movie narrative is so mindbogglingly astounding that the fact that they overlooked something even that potentially great for the Hulk still doesn't taint EG for me.

 

[Chakor]

I did admittedly find it quite jarring that all Prof. Hulk did in reaction to Widow's death was throw a bench (that would have been the perfect opportunity for him to go full Hulk), but I've long come to terms with the definitive MCU Hulk being Ruffalo's first outing in the original Avengers.

There are just too many great parts of EG for me to deduct any points off of it because of Hulk - but I can certainly sympathize with how major Hulk fans would be disappointed.

 

[jye4ever]

And then all they had to do was have a few scenes of Hulk destroying legions of Chitauri, killing the big Black Order guy, and then replace CM's scene of her temporarily grabbing Thanos' hand and briefly overpowering him until he cheats with the Power Stone with Hulk doing that instead. Then all four core Avengers could have been a part of the last ditch attempt to keep Thanos away from the glove until Stark sacrifices himself, just like at the end of A1.

The power of Khev?s new narrative compels you!

Oh it burns it burns!!!

Looks like we have a lot of support for revisionist history....or should I say rivera-ist history? I'll see myself out.

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That would have been perfect. The movie is great but it would be actual perfection had it played out this way

I loved Professor Hulk earlier in the movie. He definitely had his place and I wouldn't have begrudged it if only Rivera's idea and what Khev outlined here had been what happened towards the end.

Fully agree!

And maybe Stark's death could be the thing that de-Hulks the Hulk and brings back Banner.

My face is in my palms thinking about this stuff now.

Ughh me 2

I did admittedly find it quite jarring that all Prof. Hulk did in reaction to Widow's death was throw a bench (that would have been the perfect opportunity for him to go full Hulk), but I've long come to terms with the definitive MCU Hulk being Ruffalo's first outing in the original Avengers.

There are just too many great parts of EG for me to deduct any points off of it because of Hulk - but I can certainly sympathize with how major Hulk fans would be disappointed.

Yikes i?m agreeing with Chakor help me


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[rivera2171]

And because of the intense gamma radiation he received from snapping the glove, he could have come out of it a fully roid raged super gamma charged hulk. Thunder claps, ground pounds, the whole 9...

 

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[JAWS]

Wolverine casting has begun

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Believe me JAWS I feel for you dude but I was riveted on the edge of my seat throughout EG and in all honesty it?s because my heart and soul was just too deeply invested in the MCU by that point for me to be anything otherwise.

11 years with the same characters in the same consecutive narrative had a huge impact on me.

I mean in all seriousness JAWS regardless of the structure changes going from IW to EG what other studio has ever accomplished that it?s just absolutely insane what they pulled off.


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Its amazing for sure what they pulled off. For me though they dropped the ball at the most important time.

I love most of the marvel movies.. I will continue to love most of the marvel movies. This one is not a bad MCU film like AOU, IM2 or Thor 2 it just was not the film that IMO the series deserved.

An IW type film with a happy ending would be more fitting.. Really let all the characters shine and not just one. Lets face it if Tony did not die even he would not have had a real "Moment"

If the Time travel stuff was handled better I could enjoy the film much more. But it needed to be more exciting. It needed to draw me in. It needed to be a bit more difficult getting those stones and not a funny romp through space and time.

Thanos just isn't the same in this film. Weird how he goes from Marvels MCU's greatest film villain to one that is a bit average and typical. Just was not invested in him as a character this time.

As stated the final 3 on one battle is IMO the best part but far too short. I hate the look of the final battle also.

Of course there is all the Hulk stuff that I could go on about. Had he not been one of the original Avengers I would have been fine but the Russo's made such a massive blunder with how he was handled.

You, khev and others obviously love the film and reading all the stuff you guys read into the movie reminds me of how you and Khev were with TLJ... No amount of fan fiction or theories could change my mind about that film and I fear it will not on this movie either

Now this film is far better then TLJ but it is a pretty big disappointment for me.

I mean the movie that is the final time we will see Iron Man, Cap, and Black Widow needed to great. For me it wasn't. It was OK. It needed to be more than just OK.


So yeah... I feel for me too


My wife has yet to see it.. Perhaps its time to give it another go.

And then all they had to do was have a few scenes of Hulk destroying legions of Chitauri, killing the big Black Order guy, and then replace CM's scene of her temporarily grabbing Thanos' hand and briefly overpowering him until he cheats with the Power Stone with Hulk doing that instead. Then all four core Avengers could have been a part of the last ditch attempt to keep Thanos away from the glove until Stark sacrifices himself, just like at the end of A1.

All this stuff just makes me dislike the movie more

 

[jye4ever]

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[Khev]

Well with Wakanda you had this idyllic paradise ending with heroes turning to ash. Then in EG it was an ashen wasteland with heroes emerging from portals of light. I can see preferences going either way but the contrast was pretty awesome.

 

[Chakor]

My dirty little secret (up until now) - I never liked the Wakanda setting for IW. It made sense story-wise (with Cap's team seeking Shuri's help to remove the Mind Stone from Vision), but I always felt like "the snap" should have taken place in the cosmos. That along with Thanos removing his armor were the only serious flaws of an otherwise masterpiece movie.

 

[Khev]

Yeah, the Wakanda battle did open itself up to criticisms of it being a bit of a "Phantom Menace" copycat (not too unlike BP shortly before it) and I was fully expecting the snap to take place in the cosmos too but that was just based on my memory of reading the original comic miniseries. I'm fine with it now though.

 

[jye4ever]

Well with Wakanda you had this idyllic paradise ending with heroes turning to ash. Then in EG it was an ashen wasteland with heroes emerging from portals of light. I can see preferences going either way but the contrast was pretty awesome.

I also liked where the IW snap happened because you had these larger than life archetypes of heroic public persona dying alone on the battlefield with no ceremony and the brunt and burden of the losses being placed upon only a select few.

One minute they?re celebrating in the Stark Avengers penthouse or the golden halls of Asgard but next minute they?re on an isolated scorched battlefield with no one to thank them for their sacrifices and hard work like the public had done at the end of Avengers 1.


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[Khev]

I also liked where the IW snap happened because you had these larger than life archetypes of heroic public persona dying alone on the battlefield with no ceremony and the brunt and burden of the losses being placed upon only a select few.

Compared to the entire world instantly mourning the death of Hopeman who they'd never heard of the previous year and didn't even like anyway, lol.

 

[jye4ever]

Compared to the entire world instantly mourning the death of Hopeman who they'd never heard of the previous year and didn't even like anyway, lol.

Holy crap I just can?t keep up with you I swear lol


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[Khev]

 

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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Why is this thread not in the theme park ride or the sand box section?

 

[jye4ever]