Ban the Flag??? Seriously VVTF!!

[karamazov80]

That is possible, but I think that much good comedy requires an edginess that conservatives tend to be uncomfortable with.

 

[Darth Cruel]

Don't ask me why I did this. It just popped in to my head.

Banning Hymn of "Old Glory"
(Sung to the tune of "Battle Hymn of the Republic")​

Mine eyes have seen the banning of the banning of the Flag:
You can wear it where you want or put it on a garbage bag;
Make the flag a t-shirt that is sure to become a rag:
Disregard goes ever on!​

Old Glory we disrespect ya!
Turn our backs or straight reject ya!
How I wish we would protect ya!
Disregard goes ever on.​

I have seen Old Glory Burned in our own streets as a protest,
She has suffered the abuses of the world’s very cruelest;
Yet she flies affront the Nation standing for the very best:
Disregard goes ever on.​

Old Glory we disrespect ya!
Turn our backs or straight reject ya!
How I wish we would protect ya!
Disregard goes ever on.​

I have seen Old Glory used to honor warriors who passed:
She waves her pride and respect for them when lowered to half-mast;
Let the people of this Nation start to honor her at last,
Disregard goes ever on!​

Old Glory we disrespect ya!
Turn our backs or straight reject ya!
How I wish we would protect ya!
Disregard goes ever on.​

So raise her fast and fly her high at reveille or to fight;
Bring her down to rest with honor to the call of taps at night:
Or fly her in the darkness with the beacon of a light!
Let the pride start shining through.​

Our Nation’s Symbol how we love ya!
We’ll never ever let go of ya!
We’ll let no other fly above ya!
Let the pride start shining through!


I edited the line about the cross-dresser because I didn't like it from the beginning. I couldn't care less about cross-dressers and it was the only line I could thing of that rhymed AND fit the tempo of the original lyrics. But I thought of another one that equally conveys the message.​

 

[SnakeDoctor]

That is possible, but I think that much good comedy requires an edginess that conservatives tend to be uncomfortable with.

Eh. This just plays off of a tired stereotype of conservatives as stuffy and humorless ... which generally comes from the same liberal caricature as the stereotype of conservatives as sexless prudes. We're neither humorless (I enjoy comedy ... even edgy comedy) or sexless (I greatly enjoy sex ... very frequently).

I'm a down-the-line conservative, I've never gotten the feeling conservatives were uncomfortable with 'edgy'. Even the comedy portions of popular right-wing talk radio shows can be very edgy. For instance ... I've heard Limbaugh routinely refer to sex change operations as an 'adadictomy' (sound it out). I would consider that edgy for middle-of-the-day fare on the radio equivalent of network TV.

Conservative comedy is often very irreverent ... the targets of the comedy are just different.

There are at least as many topics that liberals find offensive as conservatives. PC isn't a conservative notion. Take Jeff Dunham (the ventriloquist comedian), for instance. You'd never get a character like 'Achmed the Dead Terrorist' (SILENCE! I KILL YOU!) from a liberal comedian. That kind of stuff is off-limits due to insensitivity. There are a LOT of orthodoxies that liberal comedians won't touch. South Park (a conservative comedy) has made entire SHOWS of skewering untouchable liberal topics ... and they've offended many in the process.

And, conservatives often watch liberal comedians -- which they wouldn't do if they were uncomfortable with the comedy (or if they didn't have a sense of humor). People like Chris Rock or Eddie Izzard don't become popular due to liberals alone.

SnakeDoc

 

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[CelticPredator]

Oh goody! A pathetic left wing "let's all bash Fox News because they don't toe the line" thread. Yippee!

Funny, but I was under the impression that these ridiculous political threads were forbidden here.

If you think this has anything to do with "left" or "right" then you sir, are mistaken.

A lot of people HATE Fox News because of how vile and horrible their "reporters" are.

Yeah, MSNBC and CNN suck too.....but aside from Keith, none of them have as much seething nasty hatrid for human beings as Fox does. That is why I personally hate them. Not because they're "right".

 

[CelticPredator]

South Park (a conservative comedy) has made entire SHOWS of skewering untouchable liberal topics ... and they've offended many in the process.

Um...wrong. Very much wrong. They are not a Republican only show. Hell, they arent even republicans. Or atleast Trey isnt.

South Park co-creator Trey Parker is actually a registered member of the Libertarian Party.[2] Fellow co-creator Matt Stone sums up their views with the comment "I hate conservatives, but I really ____ing hate liberals."[3]

Q: I don't know if you've heard about this, but there have been essays written about the concept of the "South Park Republican."
TREY: Yeah, we have seen that. What we're sick of—and it's getting even worse—is: you either like Michael Moore or you wanna ____in' go overseas and shoot Iraqis. There can't be a middle ground. Basically, if you think Michael Moore's full of ____, then you are a super-Christian right-wing whatever. And we're both just pretty middle-ground guys. We find just as many things to rip on on the left as we do on the right. People on the far left and the far right are the same exact person to us.
In another exchange from the same interview:

Q: You seem to feel free to roast everybody equally.
TREY: Everybody needs a good roasting.
MATT: It's been pretty funny on both sides.
TREY: And it comes from an honest belief we have, which is... George Bush doesn't know what's going on. Michael Moore does not know what's going on. And Alec Baldwin definitely does not know what's going on. Basically, this ____ is gigantically complicated

And they bash those ____wads on Fox all the time. It's just a show that has no limits, and goes after everyone. Unlike Family Guy who's incredibly Democat, and who basicly ONLY goes after Republicans.

 

[Darth Cruel]

If you think this has anything to do with "left" or "right" then you sir, are mistaken.

A lot of people HATE Fox News because of how vile and horrible their "reporters" are.

Yeah, MSNBC and CNN suck too.....but aside from Keith, none of them have as much seething nasty hatrid for human beings as Fox does. That is why I personally hate them. Not because they're "right".

Examples, please.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Most people who hate Fox News do so solely because it is trendy to hate Fox News. Its become an online meme. People like to be a member of the "in" crowd ... and Fox viewers aren't it.

They do so because late night hosts, MSNBC 'anchors' and administration officials have made deriding Fox News the cool thing to do. They do so because they don't want to be the punch line, they want to laugh at (and mock) the people who are the punch line.

People wouldn't worry near so much about what other people think of them if they realized how infrequently they do.

SnakeDoc

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Um...wrong. Very much wrong. They are not a Republican only show. Hell, they arent even republicans. Or atleast Trey isnt.

And they bash those ____wads on Fox all the time. It's just a show that has no limits, and goes after everyone. Unlike Family Guy who's incredibly Democat, and who basicly ONLY goes after Republicans.

I never said they were Republicans. I said the comedy was conservative. Their viewers are primarily conservative, and their targets are primarily liberal.

SnakeDoc

 

[Kuzeh]

So the general idea here is to ban the banning of the flag.

More like banning stupid polls...
as I mentioned earlier, the poll is the equivalent of trolling in a forum..
get people riled up and get some attention.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

More like banning stupid polls...
as I mentioned earlier, the poll is the equivalent of trolling in a forum..
get people riled up and get some attention.

Polls are always intended to draw viewers. Journalism is largely sensational ... that's just what they do.

But the poll was initiated after students somewhere in California were disciplined for wearing the American flag on Cinco de Mayo ... so the question wasn't exactly out-of-the-blue. I think it was meant to deal with the appropriateness of that punishment. To the extent that people agreed with the punishment, it would be a tacit banning of the flag in American schools on 5/5 of every year.

SnakeDoc

 

[Darth Cruel]

I knew there was a reason I like Matt and Trey so much. I guess it is true that great minds think alike.

 

[karamazov80]

Eh. This just plays off of a tired stereotype of conservatives as stuffy and humorless ... which generally comes from the same liberal caricature as the stereotype of conservatives as sexless prudes. We're neither humorless (I enjoy comedy ... even edgy comedy) or sexless (I greatly enjoy sex ... very frequently).

I'm a down-the-line conservative, I've never gotten the feeling conservatives were uncomfortable with 'edgy'. Even the comedy portions of popular right-wing talk radio shows can be very edgy. For instance ... I've heard Limbaugh routinely refer to sex change operations as an 'adadictomy' (sound it out). I would consider that edgy for middle-of-the-day fare on the radio equivalent of network TV.

Conservative comedy is often very irreverent ... the targets of the comedy are just different.

There are at least as many topics that liberals find offensive as conservatives. PC isn't a conservative notion. Take Jeff Dunham (the ventriloquist comedian), for instance. You'd never get a character like 'Achmed the Dead Terrorist' (SILENCE! I KILL YOU!) from a liberal comedian. That kind of stuff is off-limits due to insensitivity. There are a LOT of orthodoxies that liberal comedians won't touch. South Park (a conservative comedy) has made entire SHOWS of skewering untouchable liberal topics ... and they've offended many in the process.

And, conservatives often watch liberal comedians -- which they wouldn't do if they were uncomfortable with the comedy (or if they didn't have a sense of humor). People like Chris Rock or Eddie Izzard don't become popular due to liberals alone.

SnakeDoc

I don't know of this Dunham guy, but to me, edginess means being innovative and bucking acceptable/"conservative" ways of thinking about things. By definition, that runs counter to the ideas that many conservatives advocate, no? Maybe that is what the ventriloquist does, but like I said, I'm not familiar. To make ____ jokes isn't edgy, IMO, though it is good to know that Limbaugh has that in him. Nor are Larry the Cable Guy's fart jokes.

I do think it is interesting that you consider South Park a conservative show, since I don't think of it that way at all. Parker and Stone will make fun of anything, but if you see them on interviews, they appear extremely socially progressive.

If there are good conservative comedians, I would love to see them, frankly. I like good humor, no matter whom it pokes fun at (South Park for instance). But I'm not familiar with many (any) good conservative comedians personally. Not that I know of, anyway. And I do think there is more to that than simply the argument that conservatives don't go into the entertainment industry. Maybe I'm wrong about specifically what that is, though.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I don't know of this Dunham guy, but to me, edginess means being innovative and bucking acceptable/"conservative" ways of thinking about things. By definition, that runs counter to the ideas that many conservatives advocate, no? Maybe that is what the ventriloquist does, but like I said, I'm not familiar. To make ____ jokes isn't edgy, IMO, though it is good to know that Limbaugh has that in him. Nor are Larry the Cable Guy's fart jokes.

What happens when the "acceptable" ways of thinking are liberal? Would 'edgy' humor not then be conservative in nature? I honestly think we're WAY past that point.

There was actually a point in the last election cycle where no comedians would dare make fun of Barack Obama ... all the while Tina Fey was doing a hilarious impression of Sarah Palin, and the "George Bush is an idiot" jokes kept rolling. Making fun of conservatives and Christians IS conventional ... especially for comedians that live in Hollywood and are SURROUNDED by like-minded liberal people.

As I said, political correctness isn't a conservative thing. If you're looking for excessively sensitive individuals to offend ... there are reams of interest groups on the left that fit the bill. Feminists, anti-war activists, racially-based civil rights groups.

Take Lisa Lampinelli for instance. She's definitely 'edgy' (by any definition of the term). Personally, I think she's hilarious. She's no conservative ... but she's 'edgy' specifically because she takes aim at topics that have been declared untouchable by every other comedian in Hollywood -- racial stereotypes, gender stereotypes, sexual orientation stereotypes. She throws around offensive slang and racial/gender/orientation epithets (words that none of us would dare use) with reckless abandon. That is edgy. These are the truly taboo topics ... and not because of oversensitive conservatives.

Making fun of conservatives has been around forever. I wouldn't consider it edgy. Kennison was making Jesus jokes two decades ago ... maybe it was edgy then, but the same stuff isn't edgy anymore.

SnakeDoc

 

[Kuzeh]

I'm beginning to notice a pattern here...

 

[CelticPredator]

Examples, please.

You really need examples? I mean, i'll provide them....but c'mon. You cant be serious....

and like I said, the SP guys GO AFTER REPUBLICANS TOO. So it aint all one sided. Their targets are primarily who ever is being the biggest douche at the moment.

 

[RoboDad]

If you think this has anything to do with "left" or "right" then you sir, are mistaken.

No, I'm not. But you are certainly free to think so.

A lot of people HATE Fox News because of how vile and horrible their "reporters" are.

Yeah, MSNBC and CNN suck too.....but aside from Keith, none of them have as much seething nasty hatrid for human beings as Fox does. That is why I personally hate them. Not because they're "right".

This may be one of the funniest things I've ever read here. Olbermann and Matthews are hatred personified, and either of them individually is far, far worse than every single local and national "right wing" pundit combined.

I rarely am inclined to think such things, but I'll be brutally honest. If Olbermann and Matthews were both hit by trucks tomorrow, I would not even shed a single tear. I don't even consider them members of the same species as me any more.

 

[RoboDad]

You really need examples? I mean, i'll provide them....but c'mon. You cant be serious....

No, he's very serious. You made a fairly serious charge, now it's time to back it up.

 

[CelticPredator]

I'll keep making those serious charges until those pieces of filth fall off the face of this planet.

Lets throw some RUSH RACISIM! Wooo!

https://newsone.com/obama/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/

YEAH! BILL O' !

https://www.whosdatedwho.com/celebrity/quotes/bill-o-reilly.htm


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And you cant quite battle me with MSNBC quotes, because I hate them too. ____ them all. But ____ Fox harder. Or atleast the top 3 asshats on the station.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I'll keep making those serious charges until those pieces of filth fall off the face of this planet.

I shall never understand why conservatives are referred to as "hateful" and liberals as "compassionate". One can disagree without referring to the opposition as "filth" and wishing their demise.

SnakeDoc