1/6 Batman 1989: Batmobile Collectible Vehicle - Specs & Pics

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The real question is how much does it cost Hot Toys to manufacture and how much of a profit margin markup are they making above that. I'm sure it's a huge percentage. We'll never know what it is though. They could charge any arbitrary amount they want and people will still pay it. Maybe not as much as that $2000 Cinemaquette but you will still have people saying that's a reasonable price.
 
Presumably you're talking in an ideal world where the figures themselves weren't approaching $300 before shipping. Because if the figures almost cost 300 there's no way the car could only cost that.
Yes and no. Like I said, there's some justification for the figures costing what they do. I remember once when the belt came off my "First Avenger" Captain America's rifle; it took me over an hour to thread the belt back through the clip, so I can't imagine how long it takes to manually dress their super-intricate figures. The Batmobile could likely be ran off a standard toy assembly line like any toy you find at Toys 'R Us; there's just not a whole lot to it.


True, it's a big, glorified chunk of plastic but then again, what did we all expect? What else could/should it have been?
A metallic paint job is the most obvious omission to me; I wouldn't want it to be Returns glossy, but there's a difference between a metallic black and black plastic. We got unpainted black plastic, as far as I can tell. After that, I would say it comes down to the little details that make Hot Toys figures so incredible. By comparison, their vehicles feel way behind, like they'd be better suited for a Hot Toys figure circa 2008. Aside from the dashboard and the browning machine guns, which are both fantastic, the detailing of the car just feel soft and toylike. Much of that has to do with the inherent design of the car itself, but I would expect Hot Toys to go above and beyond where they could. Take for example the seats of the car; they're nice, but they don't look like 1:6 scale seats - they look like toy car seats. The front headlights, when turned off, look pretty toylike too. How about some bolts and rivets where it makes sense? How about some painted grime and imperfections around the edges where a real car would have them? More beveling and chamfered edges where the panels meet, or where the windshield and canopy meet together. Those kind of small details that a real car has, and that Hot Toys would sculpt into their figures. By comparison the sculpting feels like an oversimplification of the actual car, which is what gives it that "toy" vibe to me, and what makes it feel like a $300 product instead of a $600 one.

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I have to disagree with Spanbauer on this one. I think the car is absolutely worth it warts and all. I've had the Tumbler since last Dec. and always thought a 1/6 vehicle couldn't get any cooler than that, but this '89 Batmobile blows it out of the water in the WOW factor department. It's absolutely stunning in person and if you love the '89 car as much as I do(and I love it a lot) it's a no brainer.
Don't get me wrong, I don't regret my purchase at all and I admire it constantly; it is my holy grail collector's item and the highlight of my collection. But its not at the same level of detail and intricacy as Hot Toys figures have, and it doesn't look like a 1:6 scale automobile in the same way that you could mistake some of their figures for the actual actors or costumes; instead it looks and feels like a really blown up toy car, and that's where the "value" falls apart for me.
 
Yes and no. Like I said, there's some justification for the figures costing what they do. I remember once when the belt came off my "First Avenger" Captain America's rifle; it took me over an hour to thread the belt back through the clip, so I can't imagine how long it takes to manually dress their super-intricate figures. The Batmobile could likely be ran off a standard toy assembly line like any toy you find at Toys 'R Us; there's just not a whole lot to it.



A metallic paint job is the most obvious omission to me; I wouldn't want it to be Returns glossy, but there's a difference between a metallic black and black plastic. We got unpainted black plastic, as far as I can tell. After that, I would say it comes down to the little details that make Hot Toys figures so incredible. By comparison, their vehicles feel way behind, like they'd be better suited for a Hot Toys figure circa 2008. Aside from the dashboard and the browning machine guns, which are both fantastic, the detailing of the car just feel soft and toylike. Much of that has to do with the inherent design of the car itself, but I would expect Hot Toys to go above and beyond where they could. Take for example the seats of the car; they're nice, but they don't look like 1:6 scale seats - they look like toy car seats. The front headlights, when turned off, look pretty toylike too. How about some bolts and rivets where it makes sense? How about some painted grime and imperfections around the edges where a real car would have them? More beveling and chamfered edges where the panels meet, or where the windshield and canopy meet together. Those kind of small details that a real car has, and that Hot Toys would sculpt into their figures. By comparison the sculpting feels like an oversimplification of the actual car, which is what gives it that "toy" vibe to me, and what makes it feel like a $300 product instead of a $600 one.

While I thoroughly enjoy having the Batmobile, and I still think HT was pretty bold to do it (despite scratchgate)...I do see your point and agree with it. When I first got it, of course I was amazed by the size and features, but after some time and some closer inspection, it doesn't quite replicate the look of the real thing on the same level of detail that the figures replicate the real actors in costume. All the things you noted are true. The seats (like the Tumbler seats) are very toy car like. I'd add that the tire threads are nice, but pretty softly detailed compared to the real car, something that the Tumbler did better on (at least with the front wheels). Both cars are missing the tire sidewall detail/branding of their real counter parts. The pics you posted also show that the canopy windscreen is definitely a little too small.

Just like the Tumbler...when it first was released, I was blown away by its detail: the intricacy of the (non-functioning) front steering mounts, the weathering of the tires, the springs and flaps in the back...but as time went by, it was easier to see it as a 1/6 plastic toy that could've reached for so much more. Especially when r5150s posted pics of his custom detailed Tumbler. Imagine if someone could apply that level of detailed "finishing" to Hot Toys' 1989 Batmobile? It would take it to the next level of beauty.
 
Well, having a flawless Batmobile, I paid $612 total at CSC. I think it's well worth it, could it have been cheaper? Yes, but if they release another down the road (probable) and it comes with more for the same price, then I will have a problem. I'd like to think they threw in all the bells and whistles for a do it all version. Only time will tell unfortunately.
 
Well, having a flawless Batmobile, I paid $612 total at CSC. I think it's well worth it, could it have been cheaper? Yes, but if they release another down the road (probable) and it comes with more for the same price, then I will have a problem. I'd like to think they threw in all the bells and whistles for a do it all version. Only time will tell unfortunately.
I don't think there will be another version. Maybe they'll re-issue the exact same thing in 5 years when the Returns figures begin shipping, but no extra features. They certainly wouldn't make it better for the same retail price.

If they did a glossy version with pull out turbine and lift-up vents for $899, I definitely wouldn't feel bad about my $623 shipped purchase.
 
To be fair, none of the figures are really as detailed as their film counterparts. They're just like the Batmobile. Initially I might be like "wow, I can't tell if that's the real thing or just a toy" but after time and ownership goes by, even the best figure starts to seem dull. I remember how blown away I was when the Reeve Superman popped up for the first time and when I first opened it up. Now? I've taken that look and that feeling for granted. Same goes for all the other figures. After you've seen it for so long and have seen all the photos of it and experienced it, it does sort of lose the impact it once had. That's why initial specs/pics are usually so exciting the first time.

We're on the subject of the lack of details on the Batmobile? Well, why do the Ledger Joker suits lack dirt and grime instead of the fluffy, manufactured clothes? Why doesn't the Keaton Batman have a segmented body suit like in the film instead of the one piece rubber suit Hot Toys made? How come the proportions of the Iron Man figures aren't anatomically correct to fit an actual 1/6 Tony Stark inside the suit? PERS eyes? Not toy looking? Really?

As far as realism and screen replication goes, the dashboard of the Batmobile alone is as good if not better than all of the figures Hot Toys has put out.




I will say this too. After owning the Hot Toys Batmobile, I've been having a bit of trouble looking at my Hot Toys 1:18 versions, or even my TDKC Kenner Batmobile that was easily my favorite version for the longest time. They all just look so wrong and weird to me after owning this thing. And this is with the QC issues I've had.
 
I just unscrewed and took off the center panel (Printed with "TM & (c) DC Comics") in the chassis floor right in front of the turntable area. I wanted to see how much space they had to spare in there after the electronics and front steering was put in. The thick tandem steering bar that connects the two wheels might have interfered a bit with the bottom of a pull out engine. On the other hand, the 1:18 Hot Wheels was able to pull off both steering (linked to the working steering wheel!) and a pull-out engine with no problem.

Also there is definitely a LOT of wasted potential legroom in there. HT could have easily extended the passenger compartment to make it that much easier to seat an unmodded DX09 and other figures inside. Beside the bullet belts (which would have been easily routed to the side) a whole lot of nothing is in the way between the passenger compartment all the way to the front wheel wells. Theres about 2.5 - 3 inches of empty space, and they just needed about 1/2 inch to an inch to make a world of difference seating the figures. It baffles me why they didn't use it. :slap
 
I just unscrewed and took off the center panel (Printed with "TM & (c) DC Comics") in the chassis floor right in front of the turntable area. I wanted to see how much space they had to spare in there after the electronics and front steering was put in. The thick tandem steering bar that connects the two wheels might have interfered a bit with the bottom of a pull out engine. On the other hand, the 1:18 Hot Wheels was able to pull off both steering (linked to the working steering wheel!) and a pull-out engine with no problem.

Also there is definitely a LOT of wasted potential legroom in there. HT could have easily extended the passenger compartment to make it that much easier to seat an unmodded DX09 and other figures inside. Beside the bullet belts (which would have been easily routed to the side) a whole lot of nothing is in the way between the passenger compartment all the way to the front wheel wells. Theres about 2.5 - 3 inches of empty space, and they just needed about 1/2 inch to an inch to make a world of difference seating the figures. It baffles me why they didn't use it. :slap

Nah, would've just lead to more scratches.
 
I don't think there will be another version. Maybe they'll re-issue the exact same thing in 5 years when the Returns figures begin shipping, but no extra features. They certainly wouldn't make it better for the same retail price.

If they did a glossy version with pull out turbine and lift-up vents for $899, I definitely wouldn't feel bad about my $623 shipped purchase.

You can COUNT on a Batman Returns version in a few years just like the Tumbler re-release. Gloss black paint job with pull out turbine engine and, oh yeah, windshield wipers on the canopy. And yes it will probably be a few hundred bucks more then. Hot Toys isn't stupid. They aren't going to miss the chance to market a second Batmobile with added features and different paint job to lure completists with a double dip. I just hope they learn from all of the mistakes on packaging and QC from the first release. Probably not though... it's Hot Toys.
 
Actually DiFabio, Keaton batman does have weathering on his shoes. And there's nothing toylike about his PERS eyes as far as I'm concerned. Not all Hot Toys figures are created equal, but for $600 I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a batmobile that matches DX09 Batman in terms of detail and realism.

Admire the remarkable sculpting and paintwork in his gloves and boots, and compare that to the soft, simplistic wheels and rims of the car. Notice the super fine details in the clip of his utility belt, then look at the soft, undefined lines etched into the black on the side of the car. Look at the little beveled edges and sharp lines of his batarang that catch the light, absent in the detailing cut into the top of the car.

There's plenty to love, for sure. The dashboard, like you mentioned. The silver engine parts in the sides of the car. The little ventilation grills inside the "trunk". But all in all, the car is nowhere near the caliber of the figures.

You've seen that image comparing the little red rockets on the original ED-209 figure's arm to the new version? The batmobile to me is kind of like that original version; all the pieces are there, but they're not nearly as developed as they could be.
 
Span, I get what you're saying.

But there's a 1/6 89 Batmobile parked right in front of me, I'm just sitting here staring at it.

There is no other in existence at this scale in the entire world.

That's what makes it worth the price for me, it's the only one available for those who want one.

If not for scratchgate, this thing would be collectible of the year hands down.

Even with scratchgate, this thing is still collectible of the year for me.
 
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Span, I get what you're saying.

But there's a 1/6 89 Batmobile parked right in front of me, I'm just sitting here staring at it.

There is no other in existence at this scale in the entire world.

That's what makes it worth the price for me, it's the only one available for those who want want one.
Hey for sure! And like I said I'm absolutely in love with the thing, don't get me wrong. And honestly, compared to the cinemaquette batmobile it's an incredible value. Actually, I find the hot toys version to be superior to that $2,000 version in nearly every way, from the photos I've seen.
 
Hey for sure! And like I said I'm absolutely in love with the thing, don't get me wrong. And honestly, compared to the cinemaquette batmobile it's an incredible value. Actually, I find the hot toys version to be superior to that $2,000 version in nearly every way, from the photos I've seen.

Yeah, I would be pissed if I paid 2K for that CM. :rotfl
 
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