BATMAN Film Universe, Post-Nolan Reboot

[Dark_Knight_89]

I'd say Burton's Batman was more "gothic/noir" than really a period film.

I don't think Prince released any music in 1937?

 

[DiFabio]

I'd say Burton's Batman was more "gothic/noir" than really a period film.

Yeah, exactly. I mean there are 1930s/1940s dates, weapons, cars and clothing, but there's also 1980s qualities as well.

I don't know who said it but the Gotham in 1989 and the animated series was described as "what if the depression lasted another 50 years". It sort of merged the 1940s and 1980s together. That's why some televisions and screens were in color (Batman's console, the Joker's television) while others were in black and white. Essentially the Burton and Animated Gotham's are "timeless" even if they have dates that contradict (some papers are from the 30s/40s, some dates are from the 80s/90s).

What I'd like to see is a straight up 1930s/40s film. No aesthetics, no styles. Batman in the setting he originated in. And not stylized and clean like Captain America (you know, that world fair type world) either. Just a gritty, grey 1930s Gotham City.

Sequels could span for the next 40-50 years. Batman and his war on crime during the 50s, batman and his war on crime during the 60s, etc. etc.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

I'd say Burton's Batman was more "gothic/noir" than really a period film.

Definitely - nicely put. I can convey things well usually, but although there are period elements to the aesthetic, you've nailed it man. Those descriptors should've been in my mind immediately.

Yeah, exactly. I mean there are 1930s/1940s dates, weapons, cars and clothing, but there's also 1980s qualities as well.

What I'd like to see is a straight up 1930s/40s film. No aesthetics, no styles. Batman in the setting he originated in. And not stylized and clean like Captain America (you know, that world fair type world) either. Just a gritty, grey 1930s Gotham City.

Oh 100% man, absolutely!! That's exactly what I'd love too!

As I mentioned, I didn't convey my point thoroughly enough regarding the distinctions between Burton's world & straight up period film.

 

[Wanderer]

Yeah, exactly. I mean there are 1930s/1940s dates, weapons, cars and clothing, but there's also 1980s qualities as well.

I don't know who said it but the Gotham in 1989 and the animated series was described as "what if the depression lasted another 50 years". It sort of merged the 1940s and 1980s together. That's why some televisions and screens were in color (Batman's console, the Joker's television) while others were in black and white. Essentially the Burton and Animated Gotham's are "timeless" even if they have dates that contradict (some papers are from the 30s/40s, some dates are from the 80s/90s).

What I'd like to see is a straight up 1930s/40s film. No aesthetics, no styles. Batman in the setting he originated in. And not stylized and clean like Captain America (you know, that world fair type world) either. Just a gritty, grey 1930s Gotham City.

Sequels could span for the next 40-50 years. Batman and his war on crime during the 50s, batman and his war on crime during the 60s, etc. etc.

Good call there mate but I think as a comic character it would have to have a certain fantasy to it rather than a realistic straight up rendition of a 30's New York esque city. Kind of a mix between Cap A an Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.
Like you say this is where Batman is from so I wish the powers that be had the balls to make a creative choice like that...

 

[Khev]

What I'd like to see is a straight up 1930s/40s film. No aesthetics, no styles. Batman in the setting he originated in. And not stylized and clean like Captain America (you know, that world fair type world) either. Just a gritty, grey 1930s Gotham City.

Sequels could span for the next 40-50 years. Batman and his war on crime during the 50s, batman and his war on crime during the 60s, etc. etc.

"You're a detective?"

"Part time."

 

[thenammagazine]

"You're a detective?"

"Part time."

They'll keep that for TDKR, when Bale comes back and is largely panned by the fans for trying to recapture a role he's defined, but the writer didn't make age appropriate.

 

[The Mike]

I don't think that WB will ever make a period Batman film. They flirt with the idea of having multiple continuities running with each other but haven't yet pulled the trigger and have even gone to the extent of "barring" some characters from small screen when they are in the big screen pre-productions. With that being the mode of operations and them needing this film to be a contender for a modern universe connections to a Justice League film, they won't mess with it.

I think it'd be great just like I think putting Superman in the 50s or even GL in the 60s with the backdrop of the Space Race would be interesting slants but WB is too far behind Marvel Studios to really play around and I think IF Marvel Studios had the X-Men license we would have never gotten something like X-Men: First Class from them either.

 

[ironwez20]

I'd say Burton's Batman was more "gothic/noir" than really a period film.

and thats what i prefer a dark/gothic style batman where anything goes like killer croc,manbat,Mr freeze. You name it. Sad to see harley quinn not be in a movie yet. She's a very popular character. i guess people like the joker working solo.

 

[The Mike]

Harley Quinn is one of those characters that people either love or hate. I rarely find someone in the middle. There are some Batman fans who still recent her being transferred from B:TAS into the universe (even though I personally love her, at times more than The Joker). I'm not shocked she isn't in a film yet but I have a feeling the next time we see The Joker in a Batman film she'll probably be in tow.

 

[thenammagazine]

Harley Quinn is one of those characters that people either love or hate. I rarely find someone in the middle. There are some Batman fans who still recent her being transferred from B:TAS into the universe (even though I personally love her, at times more than The Joker). I'm not shocked she isn't in a film yet but I have a feeling the next time we see The Joker in a Batman film she'll probably be in tow.

While I've always felt she complimented Joker, I don't necessarily want to see her stuffed into a movie for the sake of getting the character screen time. She could be used perfectly in a detective type story carrying out the Joker's plot and finally revealing the Joker's involvement after being caught and interrogated by Batman.

 

[intothevoid]

Wouldnt it be great to see a David Fincher rendition of Arkham Asylum

 

[ironwez20]

I wanna see a Dr seuss redition of Arkham.

 

[Adolfo]

Wouldnt it be great to see a David Fincher rendition of Arkham Asylum

Now that is an awesome thought....I loved the old Arham HC....It does remind me of Fincher... some of the John Constantine comics had that same dark "Seven"(film) like feel

 

[Nightwing]

I wanna see a Dr seuss redition of Arkham.

A Silent Hill Rendition of Arkham

 

[cokebabies]

That said though, as I suggested earlier, a bulletproof cape would solve all of that and be a great opportunity for some classic poses with the cape held in front of his face, draped over his forearm.

I'd be fine with that in terms of explaining away stopping bullets in a comic movie. But for informational purposes - in real life, how well would that work? Say the cape was 100% kevlar (not sure if that's even a possibility) - would the bullets' momentum push the draped cape into him with enough force to injure him? I assume if the cape was draped over his forearm, and it hit the cape that was draped on the forearm, it could still break bones even without puncturing skin?

Again, if these dangers are still present, I'd still be cool with this as a way of Batman being "armored".

 

[thenammagazine]

Wouldnt it be great to see a David Fincher rendition of Arkham Asylum

Nope.

I'd be fine with that in terms of explaining away stopping bullets in a comic movie. But for informational purposes - in real life, how well would that work? Say the cape was 100% kevlar (not sure if that's even a possibility) - would the bullets' momentum push the draped cape into him with enough force to injure him? I assume if the cape was draped over his forearm, and it hit the cape that was draped on the forearm, it could still break bones even without puncturing skin?

Again, if these dangers are still present, I'd still be cool with this as a way of Batman being "armored".

It would be more like those lead blankets they lay over you before getting an X-Ray.

 

[Rotfish]

It would be more like those lead blankets they lay over you before getting an X-Ray.

Can't imagine them getting too many dynamic shots with material like that. Maybe if the cape was segmented into several triangles of the stuff so it wouldn't be completely stiff. That is if we're talking a period piece; coming up with some fancy sci-fi explanation for the bulletproof cape wouldn't be a problem in modern times.

 

[thenammagazine]

True, but with WB already shopping directors for their desired JLA, a period piece won't even be considered at this point. They need all the films to be contemporary and unified in one form or another.

 

[bbpike121]

To early to be thinking about a reboot in my opinion.

 

[batfan08]

That's one thing about Nolan's Batman that I think could've been done better: his methods. We see his training, but we really don't get to see it in action. Take Ra's' philosophy on theatrics, for instance. I wouldn't have minded seeing Batman employ his cape as a tool in fights; using it to disorient enemies. Perhaps even using smoke to confuse them?