Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[bonestockbrz]

That's it I quit ...I can't even make it through these trailers, what hope do I have of these movies . I was genuinely excited too

 

[ZombieRepublican]

Best trailer since the SDCC version. Both being the best superhero trailers one seen in the past year.

Also how is superman coming off lame here?? Did we watch the same trailer? He looked like a god!

Also I hate CGI in movies but this movie looks gorgeous. Snyder and team know how to get the best out of it

 

[olbertfrog]

Every one of these blockbuster movies have looked fake and video gamey. That's just how these kinds of movies are now. There's no getting past it.


I'm looking forward to Captain America: Civil War, but all that **** looks fake too now that we have Iron Mans, Ant-Mans and magic lady flying around. I'm sure they'll try their best to keep it's tone consistent with Winter Soldier, but visually it's going to take on a different look with the characters involved. Most of the heroes look like ****ing rubberized power rangers too, especially Black Panther and Giant Man. X-Men: Apocoalyspe? The whole thing looks fake. CGI powers, tons of crap thrown on the screen, green screen galore, bad Mystique make up, etc.

Batman v Superman doesn't look any better or worse than what's out there, so I'm not sure why that's getting jumped on so hard. The CGI in Hobbit looked fake, the CGI in Jurassic World looked fake, CGI in Terminator Genisys looked fake. Ant-Man? ****, all that **** looked like a video game. Age of Ultron, Force Awakens, Deadpool? All the CGI was noticeable CGI whether it was a robot, a smoke plume or a creature.

People are expecting Snyder to be the one to bring back naturalism to cgi super heroes movies... Seriously...
Not a big fan of cgi per se but in this over stylized universe they work just fine.

 

[LIBBY1957DOG]

these guy give the trailer a real close watch apologies if its already been posted

 

[ZombieRepublican]

People are expecting Snyder to be the one to bring back naturalism to cgi super heroes movies... Seriously...
Not a big fan of cgi per se but in this over stylized universe they work just fine.

Yeah, my sister who's not a superhero fan at all, was watching some marvel movies and she points out that it looks like a TV show. And I'd have to agree.

(Not hate though, I adore those movies)

 

[Rorywan]

People are expecting Snyder to be the one to bring back naturalism to cgi super heroes movies... Seriously...
Not a big fan of cgi per se but in this over stylized universe they work just fine.

Don't agree, even in a stylised universe it needs to have emotional weight. CG overuse/misuse destroyed the second half of Man oF Steel. I love CG, but only when it's used properly. *Digital rag dolls* throwing each other through CGI buildings has no emotional weight or excitement and the audience gets bored pretty quickly. It never looks real, you disconnect. It's all down to directorial decisions at the end of the day. But on a general note making a cinematic experience feel like a video game is a very bad idea, unless the action has been genuinely transferred into an in-camera stunt and shooting style. That's why Batfans are raving about this new trailer, it has an actual practical fight scene in it (augmented with CG for sure) but it works, it gets an emotional response from the viewer because it has some weight. Alas I fear the rest of the movie will not be the same based on the previous trailers. I suspect this trailer is a last ditch attempt at misleading the viewers into thinking it's a different type of movie. We have seen a lot of footage now, and none of it feels like this trailer save the original con teaser.

Yeah, my sister who's not a superhero fan at all, was watching some marvel movies and she points out that it looks like a TV show. And I'd have to agree.

(Not hate though, I adore those movies)

I agree with this too, I watched Ultron again the other night, and for the most part it looks like a tv show, it's shot like a tv show and a lot of it's VFX are pretty damn poor. It's still good fun in parts though. Marvel is doing their thing, and it works on a different level.


and the title of this movie, judging on that trailer should be:

"BATMAN V superman"

 

[Xenoburger_]

Don't agree

I fell out of my chair in utter shock.

 

[Rorywan]

I fell out of my chair in utter shock.

*

*at you, not with you.

 

[Platty]

Love it. Love it. Love it.

F all of you!

Bloody miserable bunch!

Only kidding love you all.

Love batman more though.

 

[Rorywan]

Love it. Love it. Love it.

F all of you!

Bloody miserable bunch!

Only kidding love you all.

Love batman more though.

The way it should be.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

Best trailer since the SDCC version. Both being the best superhero trailers one seen in the past year.

Also how is superman coming off lame here?? Did we watch the same trailer? He looked like a god!

Also I hate CGI in movies but this movie looks gorgeous. Snyder and team know how to get the best out of it

I think he looks really interesting in this movie and if they do a good job, it might be the first time I might enjoy Superman as a mult-dimensional character. The only comic book characters I care about are the Batman Universe characters, Lex Luthor, Punisher, Daredevil, Deathstroke, Darkseid, and Captain America, so I'm not bugged by the changes. I can't wait to see Batman punch Superman in the face.

Yeah, I think it looks great too. I roll with CGI because I'm not expecting studios to spend a quadrillion dollars on one film to get this level of action, but it always pulls me out. As much as I love the Lord of the Rings, the CGI really stands out. The only film where it didn't do that for me as much was the Return of the King because of it's darker aesthetic, which is why this movie looks good to me visually. I like The Winter Soldier a lot, but the CGI looked really cheesy to me because it was in open day light with no visual flair.

 

[jye4ever]

They'll have to get that guy who plays the Mountain in Game of Thrones to be Bane in this incarnation of the Batverse.

Or the girl who played Phasma.

Every one of these blockbuster movies have looked fake and video gamey. That's just how these kinds of movies are now. There's no getting past it.


I'm looking forward to Captain America: Civil War, but all that **** looks fake too now that we have Iron Mans, Ant-Mans and magic lady flying around. I'm sure they'll try their best to keep it's tone consistent with Winter Soldier, but visually it's going to take on a different look with the characters involved. Most of the heroes look like ****ing rubberized power rangers too, especially Black Panther and Giant Man. X-Men: Apocoalyspe? The whole thing looks fake. CGI powers, tons of crap thrown on the screen, green screen galore, bad Mystique make up, etc.

Batman v Superman doesn't look any better or worse than what's out there, so I'm not sure why that's getting jumped on so hard. The CGI in Hobbit looked fake, the CGI in Jurassic World looked fake, CGI in Terminator Genisys looked fake. Ant-Man? ****, all that **** looked like a video game. Age of Ultron, Force Awakens, Deadpool? All the CGI was noticeable CGI whether it was a robot, a smoke plume or a creature.

Ummmmm

YUP!

 

[Rorywan]

Or the girl who played Phasma.



Ummmmm

YUP!

Well, what Fab posted is pretty subjective. And that's totally cool. But it very much depends on what the movie is, what it relies on. Personally I think BVS looks a lot worse than TFA for example, 95.7% of the CGI in TFA was outstanding, photorealistic. Not a homerun, but nearly there. Ultron had some piss poor CG as well, but the movie wasn't about that, it was about clever dialogue and characters, which detracted from and VFX issues. From what I have seen so far BVS relies on it's visuals because it's dialogue and acting look pretty poor so far.

Considering how long they have had to work on this movie we have still seen some pretty piss poor CG in the trailers. I haven't seen this new *final* trailer in the theatre yet, but I can tell you the previous ones were met with grunts of displeasure and laughter from the audience, and that does not happen very often in Ireland.

 

[greygoose]

I haven't seen this new *final* trailer in the theatre yet, but I can tell you the previous ones were met with grunts of displeasure and laughter from the audience, and that does not happen very often in Ireland.

I experienced that when I saw the trailer before TFA. I think it's just a shock to the general audience seeing the two go up against eachother.

Blame Superman for being in this Batman movie.

 

[EVILFACE]

Every one of these blockbuster movies have looked fake and video gamey. That's just how these kinds of movies are now. There's no getting past it.


I'm looking forward to Captain America: Civil War, but all that **** looks fake too now that we have Iron Mans, Ant-Mans and magic lady flying around. I'm sure they'll try their best to keep it's tone consistent with Winter Soldier, but visually it's going to take on a different look with the characters involved. Most of the heroes look like ****ing rubberized power rangers too, especially Black Panther and Giant Man. X-Men: Apocoalyspe? The whole thing looks fake. CGI powers, tons of crap thrown on the screen, green screen galore, bad Mystique make up, etc.

Batman v Superman doesn't look any better or worse than what's out there, so I'm not sure why that's getting jumped on so hard. The CGI in Hobbit looked fake, the CGI in Jurassic World looked fake, CGI in Terminator Genisys looked fake. Ant-Man? ****, all that **** looked like a video game. Age of Ultron, Force Awakens, Deadpool? All the CGI was noticeable CGI whether it was a robot, a smoke plume or a creature.

There no way to avoid it. It only hampers when it is horrible looking cgi. I love TWS, but that scene of Falcon running out of the crumbling building to the helicopter is the worst CGI I have seen from a recent big budget movie.

CGI is needed for Batmans armor. There is no way an actor is going to be able to fight in a real world version of it. Or for Superman to move at super speeds.

For the first time ever we get to see the Dark Knight's moves match up to his legend. Bale's Batman had some pretty good real word fighting. Elbows to the face will drop your opponent quickly every time and allow your guard to be up. Other than the damn kewl alley fight in 89, the first 4 Batman movies didn't have any fights that were worth a ****. Like the fights in Watchmen, we are seeing über peak humans deal some damage. Get that real world stuff out of my comic book movies.

Good trailer (which I wasn't gonna watch but. . .did). But I suspect it is misleading.

Come on Kara. I know secretly you are pumped for this flick and already have your tickets.

Oh and I showed the trailer to my woman, did she get all giddy at batman throwing people through walls? No, all she cared about was the bathtub shot.

 

[Rorywan]

I experienced that when I saw the trailer before TFA. I think it's just a shock to the general audience seeing the two go up against eachother.

Blame Superman for being in this Batman movie.

Maybe.
If this was a straight up Batman movie I would be really looking forward to it.

 

[Rorywan]

Wait so what's the consensus? Good trailer or bad trailer? I said it was good earlier and got laughed at


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No, you said it was the best trailer of the year.
that's different, it's only 12th of February.

 

[**16k**]

Good trailer (which I wasn't gonna watch but. . .did). But I suspect it is misleading.

I do hope it is misleading, because if it's the final, it's suddenly dissuaded me from watching this crap. I know I won't go in a theater to see this. I'll download it and maybe buy the BD after.

 

[DiFabio]

Well, what Fab posted is pretty subjective. And that's totally cool. But it very much depends on what the movie is, what it relies on. Personally I think BVS looks a lot worse than TFA for example, 95.7% of the CGI in TFA was outstanding, photorealistic. Not a homerun, but nearly there. Ultron had some piss poor CG as well, but the movie wasn't about that, it was about clever dialogue and characters, which detracted from and VFX issues. From what I have seen so far BVS relies on it's visuals because it's dialogue and acting look pretty poor so far.

The flashy dog fights, the orange little minion sage lady, Emperor Snoke, the Han Solo freighter squids all looked fake to me. Hardly photorealistic. There was no getting passed it. Even elements that have practical hero props like BB8 or that fat junk dealer looked unrealistic when they were baby booping as they were rolling around grappling in the Falcon or talking with clearly enhanced CG facial features. That Death Star snow battle, on the ground (the lightsaber duel) and in the air (the dog fight)? That looked no more real than this rainy, city environment where Batman and Superman are duking it out. The actors were clearly in a sound stage with the environment added in digitally. Han Solo falling to his death looks about as real as Superman flying through the air with Zod or Batman.

Not that these are bad things, that's just what these kind of movies are now.

The only movies I saw last year where the CGI wasn't distractingly fake was Mad Max and the Revenant, but I suspect that's because they were used sparingly to either enhance the chase scenes (though that nuclear storm looked kinda fake) or bear mauling sequences. These big budget superhero and action flicks though? They all look like crappy effect movies from 2015. I guess what makes Batman v Superman stand out is it's dark, heavily filtered world. Other than that though, I see no difference in quality when it comes to it's effects. For all the griping there is, how come nobody is praising the look of Armored Batman in most shots? He's entirely CGI save for Affleck's mouth and looks completely photo realistic, and yet I don't see a single person mention how great Batman looks.

 

[olbertfrog]

Don't agree, even in a stylised universe it needs to have emotional weight. CG overuse/misuse destroyed the second half of Man oF Steel. I love CG, but only when it's used properly. *Digital rag dolls* throwing each other through CGI buildings has no emotional weight or excitement and the audience gets bored pretty quickly. It never looks real, you disconnect. It's all down to directorial decisions at the end of the day. But on a general note making a cinematic experience feel like a video game is a very bad idea, unless the action has been genuinely transferred into an in-camera stunt and shooting style. That's why Batfans are raving about this new trailer, it has an actual practical fight scene in it (augmented with CG for sure) but it works, it gets an emotional response from the viewer because it has some weight. Alas I fear the rest of the movie will not be the same based on the previous trailers. I suspect this trailer is a last ditch attempt at misleading the viewers into thinking it's a different type of movie. We have seen a lot of footage now, and none of it feels like this trailer save the original con teaser.

Well since i was never disconnected when watching the MOS climax What yu say is rubbish to me.
And to many who did not disconnect and did not find the final boring.
Im no video game player, and was raised watching practical fx but this work for me.
TFA cgi were mostly véhicules sets so i dont see whats to compare.
And people are not raving because its a practical fight, its because its at last a GOOD practical fight with batman.
And as i said before it has mostly to do with Snyders angles, the fight itself is pretty déjà vu situation.

We get it that Batman is put a lot forward with some trailers, who cares.
They are reintroducing the character, the fan base is stronger , they are doing some fanservice. So What...
Cant wait to count the lines or the time in screen of each hero.
The movie is about these two characters, and judging by the trailer they both have enough stuff to shine.

Oh and **** Marvel with their Tv film of the week.
Il going to see bigger than life superheroes doing bigger than life **** with some proper direction.