Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[GasparZizou]

But under no circumstance should a Superman movie be rated R. That is dumb.

This is not a Superman movie, a Superman movie should not be R-rated.

And movie WITH Superman in it can very well have R-rated stuff.

What? I'm sorry, I don't buy that. There are plenty of deaths in PG-13 movies, what was so bad about his death scene that could have possibly came anywhere near to earning that movie an R rating? In my eyes, Avengers is barely PG-13.

I've read that somewhere else too. Apparently it's really easy to get an R-rate by the MPAA.

 

[rushmore223]

I'm guessing it was the scene where he got impaled and the amount of blood was considered excessive. There was probably more than we actually saw on screen, if it's actually true.

I know for sure that the first Raimi Spider-Man movie had to avoid an R by digitally changing Tobey's blood to spit when he got punched by GG.

So, Mola Ram can rip someone's still beating heart out of his chest and still be PG (I know, no PG-13 at the time) but Coulson gets impaled with some blood and it's a R?

Hmmmm...

If its a true and not some weird urban legend, it's screwy.

 

[DiFabio]

Huh, where did this R rated cut thing come from?

From what I've seen, there's nothing that would warrant that kind of rating and there's been a lotta action scenes.

 

[olbertfrog]

Huh, where did this R rated cut thing come from?

From what I've seen, there's nothing that would warrant that kind of rating and there's been a lotta action scenes.

Its for the extended cut that Will be released on blu.
Both cut have been presented and the extended got an R.
Irish confirmed 15/20 mins extra and probably some graphic teeth and blood flying.

 

[karamazov80]

Well Marvel doesn't only do the crowd-pleasing tentpole film, as the Netflix shows demonstrate. But I doubt they would go there. Not even sure if the rights they acquired for re-releasing the comics would carryover to other media. We haven't seen any toys from them, yet.

Next time your directing a Superman movie you can do as you think it should be.

Well I appreciate securing your permission! But until then, I'll state my opinion on the matter regarding those who are doing it. Particularly when they are doing it wrong.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I'm just surprised that with all this "R" rated talk, no one here has made a neck snapping or tornado joke yet...that's very disappointing. I expected more from this forum. *I'm looking at you Jye*

 

[kryptonianmutie]

So, Mola Ram can rip someone's still beating heart out of his chest and still be PG (I know, no PG-13 at the time) but Coulson gets impaled with some blood and it's a R?

Hmmmm...

If its a true and not some weird urban legend, it's screwy.

Can't compare 80's MPAA to anything else. It was a lot looser back then. Check out the Sheena movie with Tanya Roberts, which was rated PG, and you'll see a prime example of how loose they were.

 

[Khev]

Huh, where did this R rated cut thing come from?

Probably soft R a la Fury Road and BOTFA EE.

 

[olbertfrog]

Well Marvel doesn't only do the crowd-pleasing tentpole film, as the Netflix shows demonstrate. But I doubt they would go there. Not even sure if the rights they acquired for re-releasing the comics would carryover to other media. We haven't seen any toys from them, yet.


Well I appreciate securing your permission! But until then, I'll state my opinion on the matter regarding those who are doing it. Particularly when they are doing it wrong.

Not What i meant.
You are entitled to your opinion man.
Just saying that you have your view of superman and Snyder has his.
None are wrong.
This is art there is no wrong in art.
This version of the characters are not to your liking

 

[rushmore223]

Seriously though, there was far more gratuitous violence in any LOTR movie than any Marvel movie, and they were PG-13.

 

[karamazov80]

Though I'm not an expert in the matter, from what I understand, the MPAA is a bit of a joke anyway. They sometimes make arbitrary decisions (the freakin King's Speech is rated R), and true to the odd value system of the United States, will penalize a movie much more heavily for sex and nudity over ultra-violence. So, I'm not sure it means a whole heck of a lot to be honest. I doubt very seriously that the extended version of this film comes anywhere near Deadpool in terms of violence, gore, sex, etc.

Not What i meant.
You are entitled to your opinion man.
Just saying that you have your view of superman and Snyder has his.
Thermes no wrong.

Apologies if I misread your tone, but of course you're right. But from the early days of the Man of Steel announcement, I've been at odds with his approach and perspective here.

 

[Khev]

Seriously though, there was far more gratuitous violence in any LOTR movie than any Marvel movie, and they were PG-13.

Jackson was able to get away with it because orc blood is black. No joke. Red blood is a no no. I believe that was one of the reasons Tarantino switched to black and white for the big sword battle at the end of Kill Bill 1 (to avoid an NC-17 rating.)

 

[karamazov80]

And could you get any more arbitrary than that if you tried?

 

[Khev]

And could you get any more arbitrary than that if you tried?

Seriously. And on the FOTR commentary Jackson said that the MPAA allowed Lurtz' head and arm to get chopped off as long as there was NO blood coming out of him in those scenes. But then in the Hobbit AUJ Azog gets his hand chopped off and...blood comes out. No rhyme or reason.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, that was pretty brutal seeing him get chopped up. Not sure how Monty Python and the Holy Grail got away with it!

 

[kryptonianmutie]

Lol. Orcs. You could massacre a million of them on screen and come nowhere close to an R rating. Khev's black blood point aside(good catch BTW), they aren't real people and they aren't animals either. There is nothing real attached to their deaths just like the countless droids destroyed in the SW prequels.

 

[karamazov80]

Same could probably be said in Batman V. Superman, where you'll have CG characters doing damage to each other, usually resulting in digital blood effects I guess. Where do you draw the line there? The theatrical re-release of the Wild Bunch initially gave it an NC-17 somehow in the early '90s. I can only assume it is due to the terrible treatment of that Scorpion at the beginning!

 

[rushmore223]

I seem to recall plenty of humans and elves being killed in LOTR, can't remember how bloody the scenes were though. I think I do recall some blood in TTT.

Ahhhh... If only I had time to watch one of those films again, it's rare I can even find time for a 2 hour movie, usually forced to split them up over 2 nights.

 

[crows]

I seem to recall plenty of humans and elves being killed in LOTR, can't remember how bloody the scenes were though. I think I do recall some blood in TTT.

Ahhhh... If only I had time to watch one of those films again, it's rare I can even find time for a 2 hour movie, usually forced to split them up over 2 nights.

well...

 

[Khev]

I'm not saying there was NO human blood in LOTR, of course there was. But it was just a little bit here and there. If the *orcs* had had red blood then that would have increased the "onscreen violence" to R levels according to the MPAA at the time.