Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[rushmore223]

Can they show blood as long as its not coming out of someone? Cause then The Shining is probably the only movie I know of with more than Kill Bill, at least off the top of my head, I'm sure there are others though. "Off the top of my head", which instantly brought up memories of Lucy Liu's death in Kill Bill, much grosser than just bleeding, to me at least.

I imagine these ratings are also influenced by the tone, genre and who might find the film appealing (kids) hence the tougher stance on superhero films? Just a guess.

 

[Khev]

Yeah, context is a big factor. For instance a film can get away with more nudity if it's considered to be in a non-sexual situation. Rocky always gets covered in blood but maybe that's "sports blood" so it doesn't count, who knows.

Back in 1939 the MPAA would only allow Rhett Butler's "Frankly my dear I don't give a damn" line in Gone with the Wing only as long as his emphasis was on the word "give." If he said, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a DAMN" then it would have been an X.

 

[rushmore223]

Not to be a pain in the butt that argues just for the sake of arguing, which I'm not, I'm enjoying the conversation, but there is actually no such rating as "X", it was just a marketing tool by the **** industry. Up until NC-17, films beyond n are rating were simply NR, not rated, which of course was the kiss of death for just about any film. Just an interesting fact.

Or more accurately it was a self applied rating that was not given by the MPAA.

 

[Khev]

That's fine, I just knew that there was no "NC-17" in 1939 so whatever the most extreme rating (or lack thereof) would have applied at the time.

 

[jye4ever]

Damn, so no Scanners head splosions in BvS.

How about a neck snap?

Wait......

 

[Khev]

Damn, so no Scanners head splosions in BvS.

How about a neck snap?

Wait......

Can you believe that as kids we were watching mainstream popcorn movies that ended with close-ups of three peoples' heads exploding/melting?

 

[Baneofdemon22]

You guys made good points about the rating system. I never paid attention to the rating system because I could always fast-forward through, look away, or shut it off if a movie or tv show's content wasn't good for me. I didn't watch a lot of PG stuff because I didn't think it was right for me, but was fine with watching R rated stuff. It's a case by case with everything.

Violence is all around us, whether it's on the news, in the home, in the neighborhood, or on the playground, so that's why people are alright with that. I don't understand what's the difference between the black and red blood, but maybe it helps with the escapism?

 

[karamazov80]

They sure don't give kids' movies endings like they used to. . .

 

[DinoDB1975]

Jackson was able to get away with it because orc blood is black. No joke. Red blood is a no no. I believe that was one of the reasons Tarantino switched to black and white for the big sword battle at the end of Kill Bill 1 (to avoid an NC-17 rating.)

Exactly. Genius move by Tarantino, 'cause it actually works, and viewers think he's being an autuer, LOL.

Yeah, context is a big factor. For instance a film can get away with more nudity if it's considered to be in a non-sexual situation. Rocky always gets covered in blood but maybe that's "sports blood" so it doesn't count, who knows.

Examples: portrait scene in Titanic, CPR/resuscitation scene in The Abyss (coincidentally, both James Cameron movies).

And the 80's was a great time to be growing up with MPAA's lax rating system, as evidenced by the previously mentioned Sheena and the Beast Master (coincidentally, both starring Tanya Roberts!).

 

[jye4ever]

The MPAA didn't let everyone off the hook though in the 80's.

Slasher movies were hit hard after Lennon's murder, look no further than the F13th series, My Bloody Valentine, Happy Birthday to Me, so on and so forth.

 

[ZombieRepublican]

It's funny, they probably could release the Bluray next week if they wanted. This movies been long ready for release.

If the R-rating is anything like that boring wolverine sequel then it's just added CG blood. But Snyder does like to go big, hopefully there's lots of extras

 

[kryptonianmutie]

The MPAA didn't let everyone off the hook though in the 80's.

Slasher movies were hit hard after Lennon's murder, look no further than the F13th series, My Bloody Valentine, Happy Birthday to Me, so on and so forth.

They had to have some standards to justify their existence. Slasher movies had the golden recipe for getting an R rating. Nudity, Sex, lots of blood, and lots of violence and all the screaming. They couldn't give them a PG rating so R was the only choice. The sequel Elm Street movies really shouldn't have been R rated though. I don't recall much nudity in them and Freddy became a comedian as the series progressed. The only thing that was really scary was the theme music.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Hopefully there's a flashback scene showing the Joker killing Robin with a crowbar and tagging the suit with spray paint

 

[GasparZizou]

Hopefully there's a flashback scene showing the Joker killing Robin with a crowbar and tagging the suit with spray paint

That's what I was thinking, and Superman going gory stuff in Bats nightmare.

 

[spindrift]

Wow-- that will sell alot more blu rays- an R rated Superman film? Batman? Great marketing plan at the very least!

 

[spindrift]

Yeah,

That was so not happening for theatrical.

TDK should've been pushed into R territory.

Some of the implied violence was a little silly in that movie but Jimmy Smits really worked that knee shake good to show he had been shot!

Agreed TDK was as close to R as you can get! Much more R in that than Fury Road which baffled me by getting an R rating

 

[Khev]

Hopefully Wonder Woman needs to take a dip in a magic hot tub in order to figure out what's going on.

 

[jungle jom]

Not to be a pain in the butt that argues just for the sake of arguing, which I'm not, I'm enjoying the conversation, but there is actually no such rating as "X", it was just a marketing tool by the **** industry. Up until NC-17, films beyond n are rating were simply NR, not rated, which of course was the kiss of death for just about any film. Just an interesting fact.

Or more accurately it was a self applied rating that was not given by the MPAA.

Not factual. The ratings used from 1968 - 1970 were G, M, R, X. Midnight Cowboy's and A Clockwork Orange were originally rated X. So your interesting fact is actually not a fact.

 

[jungle jom]

Yeah, context is a big factor. For instance a film can get away with more nudity if it's considered to be in a non-sexual situation. Rocky always gets covered in blood but maybe that's "sports blood" so it doesn't count, who knows.

Back in 1939 the MPAA would only allow Rhett Butler's "Frankly my dear I don't give a damn" line in Gone with the Wing only as long as his emphasis was on the word "give." If he said, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a DAMN" then it would have been an X.

Back in 1939 there was no MPAA. There was the Hays Office and the Motion Picture Production Code. No rating system at all.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, I recall that Dawn of the Dead earned an X from the MPAA or whatever it was called at the time, and Romero chose to forego that rating and just release it as "Not Rated" to avoid any of the negative trappings associated with it.