Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[jye4ever]

Christian Bale admitted he didn't feel like his turn as Batman was up to snuff.

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"I didn’t quite manage what I hoped I would throughout the trilogy," Bale said. "Chris did, but my own sense of self is like, 'I didn’t quite nail it.'"


Part of his disappointment stems from Heath Ledger's critically acclaimed portrayal of The Joker in The Dark Knight, for which he won a posthumous Oscar for best supporting actor.


"Heath turned up, and just kind of completely ruined all my plans,” Bale said. "Because I went, 'He’s so much more interesting than me and what I’m doing.'"


Of course, Bale's comments come before Ben Affleck takes over the role of Bruce Wayne in the upcoming Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, which is expected to rake in $140 million during its opening weekend of March 25.

 

[Spartan Rex]

Do you have the willpower ?

Spoiler

I didn't think so.
This Is How The Bat Fights Superman In BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE And It's Awesome

 

[jye4ever]

What more could possibly be spoiled after DiFabio's magnum opus.

 

[GasparZizou]

That's not a spoiler, that's just Snyder telling how Batman fights. You can read it, if you want to. Danger free.

 

[RIDDICK]

What more could possibly be spoiled after DiFabio's magnum opus. lol

 

[Johnny Utah]

All these spoilers have me craving more figures from HT.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

"Heath turned up, and just kind of completely ruined all my plans,” Bale said. "Because I went, 'He’s so much more interesting than me and what I’m doing.'"

The villains are ALWAYS more interesting than Batman. The only reason Batfleck might be more interesting in BVS is because he's next to Superman, who is even less interesting than Batman

 

[GasparZizou]

The villains are ALWAYS more interesting than Batman. The only reason Batfleck might be more interesting in BVS is because he's next to Superman, who is even less interesting than Batman

Objectively false m8.

 

[jye4ever]

The villains are ALWAYS more interesting than Batman. The only reason Batfleck might be more interesting in BVS is because he's next to Superman, who is even less interesting than Batman

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Objectively false m8.

No, in every Batman film, the villains always steal the film...even back in the 60's tv show the villains owned the show and even on the Gotham show, the same thing Batman can be pretty boring if it wasn't for his villains.

Oh God, are we going to be talking about this in the next 10 pages?

 

[jye4ever]

• Marvel Holds The Line Against R-Rated Superhero Movies

You will not see Loki ****.

By DEVIN FARACI Mar. 04, 2016


History will say that Deadpool changed the superhero landscape, but I truly believe that film was just the first movie in a trend that had been bubbling for some time. Deadpool's massive success makes that trend happen faster and probably last longer, but studios were gearing up towards R-rated superhero movies for some time. Forgetting Watchmen, it was clear that the Zack Snyder aesthetic lends itself to an R rating, and in fact he shot a violence-filled R-rated version of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice* that will be released on home video. And even though we found out about an R-rated Wolverine III after the success of Deadpool, sources within Fox tell me that an R-rated script for that film had been delivered some time ago - this was happening, no matter what. That R-rating door was open, Deadpool just happened to be the first film through it.


It's a trend that re-enacts a trend in comic books, where an arms race for edgy, adult material led to some truly terrible comic books (let's be honest: the vast majority of Marvel Max comics were not very good). I'm curious to see how this plays out in cinema - best case scenario, this trends breaks the leaking levee that has been holding back R-rated action movies (we've been having a minor renaissance of these in the mid-budget range - could Deadpool help us get more in the big budget range?). Worst case scenario is that we end up with exactly what comics ended up with - patently bad superhero stories that rely on violence and grimness instead of character and story.


But this arms race will not involve Marvel. Speaking at a Disney investor meeting yesterday, Bob Iger said "We don't have any plans to make any R-rated Marvel films."


Of course Marvel has a little flexibility. While the Marvel Cinematic Universe will be PG-13 for the foreseeable future, the Netflix shows are more accurately described as PG-15, which I think is about a perfect upper level for superhero stories. Holding the line on movies makes a lot of sense - they're aiming for four quadrants, but more than that, they have defined what a superhero movie is. Warner Bros has been positioning BvS as an alternative to what Marvel is doing, so they need to go darker and more 'adult,' but Marvel's brand works best at this down-the-middle ratings range.


I think it's smart in the long run. Parents know they can take their ten year old to a Marvel movie. Will they be able to say the same about a Fox film or a Warner Bros film in the next few years? When Wolverine III is R, it will be cutting out a swath of young fans who literally have spent their whole lives so far with Hugh Jackman's take on the character. I like to imagine a lot of industrious 12 years sneaking into that movie, but I also imagine a lot of other kids whose parents will keep them away from it. I legitimately think we could see an R-rated theatrical release of a Batman film, and what does that mean for the character who was created to entertain children?


One side effect of getting older is recognizing that most of the things that I thought were 'adult' or 'mature' when I was a kid are actually crazy juvenile. I'll get roasted for this, but I think the conversation between Vision and Ultron at the end of The Age of Ultron was more 'mature' than any amount of Deadpool's violence or F-bombs. Don't get me wrong - I love gratuitious violence and extreme swearing, I just no longer fool myself into thinking that this stuff is for 'grown ups.' That stuff is appealing to the kid in me. A philosophical discussion about the nature of humanity - that's for grown-ups.

 

[GasparZizou]

No, in every Batman film, the villains always steal the film...even back in the 60's tv show the villains owned the show and even on the Gotham show, the same thing Batman can be pretty boring if it wasn't for his villains.

No, that Batman is more interesting than Superman, nein.

 

[GasparZizou]

One side effect of getting older is recognizing that most of the things that I thought were 'adult' or 'mature' when I was a kid are actually crazy juvenile. I'll get roasted for this, but I think the conversation between Vision and Ultron at the end of The Age of Ultron was more 'mature' than any amount of Deadpool's violence or F-bombs. Don't get me wrong - I love gratuitious violence and extreme swearing, I just no longer fool myself into thinking that this stuff is for 'grown ups.' That stuff is appealing to the kid in me. A philosophical discussion about the nature of humanity - that's for grown-ups. [/SIZE]
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Very true.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

No, that Batman is more interesting than Superman, nein.

Oh...you're saying that Sups is more interesting? Hmm...he should be, but I don't think the Superman films so far have done a great job at showing that.

 

[Spartan Rex]

I think the Russos have proven you don't need over the top graphic violence or F bombs to draw crowds or compromise on action scenes.

 

[rushmore223]

I do agree that a big part of Batmans appeal is that he has some of the most interesting villains.

 

[batfan08]

Can we all just agree that the "PG-15" thing Marvel talks about for their Netflix stuff is bull****? If Jessica Jones ****ing Luke's brains out or Kingpin braining the Russian with a car door were in a movie, that movie would have an R-rating.

 

[Khev]

Some of those Netflix episodes could be considered PG-15 (or whatever you want to call it) I guess, others are definitely R.

 

[jye4ever]

Wake me up when a superhero movie gives me the same level of carnage that was on display in Rambo 4, then we have something worthy of a ratings discussion.

Until then, leave me be with my goat.

 

[rushmore223]

I don't believe for a second that they were ever planning on releasing a R rated BVS, it's a obvious reaction to Deadpool.

I do however believe that they did submit a version of the film intended to garner an R from the MPAA. They do this to make the version they intend to release seem more tame. This is something that has been somewhat common practice for the last 20 years, pioneered by Tarantino with Pulp Fiction.