Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[ironwez20]

I think people are just mad cause well DC is trying to play catchup and no one want them to.

 

[Rorywan]

Please explain a 79% score for Iron Man 3.

A lot of people liked it. Honestly they did. It was a very different Marvel movie. Lighter more fun and it appealed to a broader audience, hence it made a ****load of cash.

 

[Rorywan]

Explain camel spiders.

terrifying and ****ing ugly.

 

[batfan08]

Why do so many people ***** about Batman killing folks? It's about as established in the canon as anything else. I can see if this was the first movie to do it, but Bob Kane and Bill Finger did it back in the day, Keaton did it, hell, at least Snyder had the foresight to cover his ***, because you just know that, even if his Batman didn't kill, the fanboys would scan through all three hours of the movie and adjust their glasses until they found something where they could say *in best Frink voice from The Simpsons* "Uh, yes, at approximately 1:32:16 in the movie, Batman kicks one of Luthor's goons into a wall.

Doing some advanced calculations, I've discovered that there is an, uh, approximately 0.3% chance that the man could survive being hurled into a wall by a kick to the head of that magnitude and that velocity, as such, it is reasonable to assume that, uh...well, that man is dead."

 

[spindrift]

I think people are just mad cause well DC is trying to play catchup and no one want them to.

somewhat, yes partly. WB has to be sweating right now buckets ....can you imagine what is going on right now in the JL production offices....???

 

[spindrift]

A lot of people liked it. Honestly they did. It was a very different Marvel movie. Lighter more fun and it appealed to a broader audience, hence it made a ****load of cash.

Zach needs to rewrite JL more like Super Friends episodes then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[spindrift]

Why do so many people ***** about Batman killing folks? It's about as established in the canon as anything else. I can see if this was the first movie to do it, but Bob Kane and Bill Finger did it back in the day, Keaton did it, hell, at least Snyder had the foresight to cover his ***, because you just know that, even if his Batman didn't kill, the fanboys would scan through all three hours of the movie and adjust their glasses until they found something where they could say *in best Frink voice from The Simpsons* "Uh, yes, at approximately 1:32:16 in the movie, Batman kicks one of Luthor's goons into a wall. Doing some advanced calculations, I've discovered that there is an, uh, approximately 0.3% chance that the man could survive being hurled into a wall by a kick to the head of that magnitude and that velocity, as such, it is reasonable to assume that, uh...well, that man is dead."

To me...Who cares? This Batman is a different Batman in a new movie......deal with it folks

 

[jye4ever]

How many people are named crows in this forum?

edit nvm its like 2

I think there's a jyecrows

 

[ironwez20]

Why do so many people ***** about Batman killing folks? It's about as established in the canon as anything else. I can see if this was the first movie to do it, but Bob Kane and Bill Finger did it back in the day, Keaton did it, hell, at least Snyder had the foresight to cover his ***, because you just know that, even if his Batman didn't kill, the fanboys would scan through all three hours of the movie and adjust their glasses until they found something where they could say *in best Frink voice from The Simpsons* "Uh, yes, at approximately 1:32:16 in the movie, Batman kicks one of Luthor's goons into a wall. Doing some advanced calculations, I've discovered that there is an, uh, approximately 0.3% chance that the man could survive being hurled into a wall by a kick to the head of that magnitude and that velocity, as such, it is reasonable to assume that, uh...well, that man is dead."

Well it'll be hard to to do the red hood story now. Like why is joker still alive? keaton took care of him in a matter of weeks.

 

[crows]

Why do so many people ***** about Batman killing folks? It's about as established in the canon as anything else. I can see if this was the first movie to do it, but Bob Kane and Bill Finger did it back in the day, Keaton did it, hell, at least Snyder had the foresight to cover his ***, because you just know that, even if his Batman didn't kill, the fanboys would scan through all three hours of the movie and adjust their glasses until they found something where they could say *in best Frink voice from The Simpsons* "Uh, yes, at approximately 1:32:16 in the movie, Batman kicks one of Luthor's goons into a wall. Doing some advanced calculations, I've discovered that there is an, uh, approximately 0.3% chance that the man could survive being hurled into a wall by a kick to the head of that magnitude and that velocity, as such, it is reasonable to assume that, uh...well, that man is dead."

everyone is like "Why is the Joker alive if this batman kills"

Well it'll be hard to to do the red hood story now. Like why is joker still alive? keaton took care of him in a matter of weeks.

But..... the question is, Why the HELL is the ENTIRE suicide Squad alive??????????????????????
the joker is one thing, (And maybe he is good at escaping from Batman) but the ENTIRE squad is left alive? why is there an Arkham if he kills so much?

 

[batfan08]

Well it'll be hard to to do the red hood story now. Like why is joker still alive? keaton took care of him in a matter of weeks.

Who says he will be? They seem to be taking bits and pieces of TDKR. Maybe Batfleck's solo movie will be the one where he "snaps." Ultimately, I kind of wonder if that's why Leto's Joker seems like such a ******. Maybe they want people to want him to kill him.

 

[batfan08]

Didn't they say that Batman just recently became this darker character who kills criminals? Perhaps Joker was already apprehended before he took on this more violent approach?

 

[karamazov80]

Why do so many people ***** about Batman killing folks? It's about as established in the canon as anything else. I can see if this was the first movie to do it, but Bob Kane and Bill Finger did it back in the day, Keaton did it, hell, at least Snyder had the foresight to cover his ***, because you just know that, even if his Batman didn't kill, the fanboys would scan through all three hours of the movie and adjust their glasses until they found something where they could say *in best Frink voice from The Simpsons* "Uh, yes, at approximately 1:32:16 in the movie, Batman kicks one of Luthor's goons into a wall. Doing some advanced calculations, I've discovered that there is an, uh, approximately 0.3% chance that the man could survive being hurled into a wall by a kick to the head of that magnitude and that velocity, as such, it is reasonable to assume that, uh...well, that man is dead."

A) Batman of 1939 isn't Batman of today

B) Burton Batman is Bizarroworld Batman.

C) Random examples folks can pull from comics here and there are clearly the exceptions. And the general understanding of contemporary Batman is that he doesn't wantonly kill.

D) Batman: Animated Series Batman is the template from which the vast majority of other Batmen should be based. Exceptions are allowed, like Brave and the Bold and LEGO Batman. But Snyder doesn't earn that pass, dammit.

Of course, we've had the "should Batman kill?" debate here for years. And I doubt anyone will sway anyone else's opinion. But the gif here reinforces my opinion that Snyder doesn't know or appreciate these characters in the same way that I do. That isn't to say that he cares less about Batman or Superman. He just doesn't see them as I do, and so there's a disconnect. Others can love that this Batman kills, and that's fine. But I hate it. It's a core defining trait as I think of him--great detective skills, uber intelligence, darkness and theatricality, a cape and cowl, rich with lots of toys, a belief that governmental authorities can't do it all, not much humor most of the time, problems with building personal relationships, no super powers, no guns, a somber and muted hope, but a hope nonetheless, that the mentally ill can be rehabilitated, and of course, no killing.

 

[batfan08]

A) Batman of 1939 isn't Batman of today

B) Burton Batman is Bizarroworld Batman.

C) Random examples folks can pull from comics here and there are clearly the exceptions. And the general understanding of contemporary Batman is that he doesn't wantonly kill.

D) Batman: Animated Series Batman is the template from which the vast majority of other Batmen should be based. Exceptions are allowed, like Brave and the Bold and LEGO Batman. But Snyder doesn't earn that pass, dammit.

Of course, we've had the "should Batman kill?" debate here for years. And I doubt anyone will sway anyone else's opinion. But the gif here reinforces my opinion that Snyder doesn't know or appreciate these characters in the same way that I do. That isn't to say that he cares less about Batman or Superman. He just doesn't see them as I do, and so there's a disconnect. Others can love that this Batman kills, and that's fine. But I hate it. It's a core defining trait as I think of him--great detective skills, uber intelligence, darkness and theatricality, a cape and cowl, rich with lots of toys, a belief that governmental authorities can't do it all, not much humor most of the time, problems with building personal relationships, no super powers, no guns, a somber and somewhat pessimistic hope, but a hope nonetheless, that the mentally ill can be rehabilitated, and of course, no killing.

Exceptions or not, no one version is more or less acceptable than another. They're all valid interpretations of the character throughout his history. I agree with you that TAS Batman is probably my ideal version of the character, but I'm not going to say that a particular version sucks just because it doesn't adhere to that characterization of Batman.

 

[ironwez20]

Didn't they say that Batman just recently became this darker character who kills criminals? Perhaps Joker was already apprehended before he took on this more violent approach?

Hm Do you recall the era when tim drake came on the scene? This was after jason died, batman was going off the hinge and Tim drake notices it? This batman obviously is post jason death and it shows, maybe he's tired of it and is more ruthless, maybe he just needs a robin like drake said. The solo movie may touch on this.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Same thing happened when Dark Knight Rises hit theaters

Except TDKR had a 90% on RT...as opposed to a 40%. Most critics and Youtube reviewers liked it.

 

[karamazov80]

Exceptions or not, no one version is more or less acceptable than another. They're all valid interpretations of the character throughout his history.

Not to me they ain't. Frank Miller's All-Star Batman, for example, was a disgrace. There are core elements of these characters that matter. And it is subjective. Nothing we're discussing here is physics. But ultimately I think they are shared by many. The bigger issue in the Snyderverse is, of course, Superman. But if there was one thing I was really looking forward to in this movie, it was Batman. Because we've heard so many great things being said about him. But if he's a killer that kind of undermines everything else to me. It's like hearing that some guy is a great hero for this or that reason, but also beats his kids every now and again. It taints it. I hated it about Keaton Bats, and I'll hate it about Batfleck if true.

 

[Ropen]

So much negativity online makes it feel like I'm gonna be grumpy tomorrow watching it, I hate you guys LOL. I mean I don't believe reviews but I do feel sometimes the way people talk about it gives you a bitter taste than it should. Imho


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[batfan08]

Not to me they ain't. Frank Miller's All-Star Batman, for example, was a disgrace. There are core elements of these characters that matter. And it is subjective. Nothing we're discussing here is physics. But ultimately I think they are shared by many. The bigger issue in the Snyderverse is, of course, Superman. But if there was one thing I was really looking forward to in this movie, it was Batman. Because we've heard so many great things being said about him. But if he's a killer that kind of undermines everything else to me. It's like hearing that some guy is a great hero for this or that reason, but also beats his kids every now and again. It taints it. I hated it about Keaton Bats, and I'll hate it about Batfleck if true.

Like you said, it's all subjective. At the end of the day, I kind of feel like having Batman as a killer is a missed opportunity, though. Him having a strict code that he adheres to could've given him a bit of moral high ground in his crusade against Superman, and, ultimately, a means to, potentially, show him the error of his ways and inspire him to be more like classic Supes.

 

[sallah]

So if Batman kills people either by accident or on purpose then why is the Joker still alive n the DC universe?

Spoiler

It isn't by accident. At all. He blatantly kills people in this film. He drops a freaking car on a few of them.

So yeah.... Makes zero sense that any of the major rogues would still be alive. He killed a bunch of Lex's hired freight transporter guys... Are any of those guys even half as vile as Joker?

Sallah