Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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GREAT review and very honest I feel. I'm liking what I read on "better story, writing, engaging"

Thanks man.
Yeah save for what i really missed it a really cool movie.
I like that DC is not trying to mimick marvel and stick to its guns.
Its not a fun light hearted movie but it pack a punch and a lot of the time it hits you right in the feels.
The extended cut should be very very good too.
I would have gone back tonight but the cinemas are going to be packed and i want to avoid that.
BTW so far most of the critics here are positive.
 
this could ruin all their plans the same way amazing spiderman 2 ruined all plans for sony

It's pretty scary how many parallels there are between Superman and Spider-Man in live action.




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Thanks man.
Yeah save for what i really missed it a really cool movie.
I like that DC is not trying to mimick marvel and stick to its guns.
Its not a fun light hearted movie but it pack a punch and a lot of the time it hits you right in the feels.
The extended cut should be very very good too.
I would have gone back tonight but the cinemas are going to be packed and i want to avoid that.


BTW so far most of the critics here are positive.

yes- I think the JL writer alresdy said that it will be lighter than BvS so that should add some more humor....
 
just came back from a screening. and i gotta say i don't get all these critics who've been trashing the film. i think many of them are simply over-exaggerating.

i will say that BvS is somewhat messy in parts, and the 2nd act feels like it's treading water before the inevitable showdown. so that can indeed be chalked up to unnecessary bloat.

but if anyone tells you the filmmakers don't get superman as a character they're just plain misreading the film. if anything, i liked the way supes is portrayed here. this is not a superhero who has figured out the "hero" part entirely. he's a work in progress and he knows it. BUT clark/kal-el has learned things since the last film and he's shown to be learning throughout this film... what it really means to be a hero, what it takes, and the sacrifices that come with it. i actually think snyder/terrio made supes quite a sympathetic character.

and this is clearly juxtaposed against his polar opposite in batman/bruce, whose worldview and values are as cynical and unforgiving as clark's is hopeful and forgiving. what I like about the "versus" here is that it does not just stand for a 2-hour superhero beatdown. it goes out of its way to establish the ideological, emotional and (to a lesser extent) psychological differences of these two men.

i could go on, but bottom line is, i really enjoyed the film. it certainly has flaws, some i found particularly clumsy and odd. but nothing really fatal that would qualify this film as "bad/crap/garbage/etc". not even close. the principal cast is great: batfleck stands out, WW gadot is cheer-worthy in her short action scenes, and cavill is fine. he certainly isn't wooden, he's just given slightly less opportunity to shine. there are some beautiful emotional moments in here. one in particular concerns how they end their battle, and as irishjedi (if i'm not mistaken) put it, it is a rather elegant resolution.

also, the action climax isn't an exercise in overkill like MoS (which i liked too). it lasts just long enough to not outstay its welcome, and has enough variety in the sense of who's-doing-what-to-whom so it never feels repetitive (again, unlike MoS).

lastly, the cinema i was in gave a resounding round of applause at the end of the movie. which is rare, if you know anything about asian audiences. take that as you will. your personal mileage will of course vary, but i say, don't listen to critics who don't seem to be able to separate their personal issues from the viewing experience.
 
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just came back from a screening. and i gotta say i don't get all these critics who've been trashing the film. i think many of them are simply over-exaggerating.

i will say that BvS is somewhat messy in parts, and the 2nd act feels like it's treading water before the inevitable showdown. so that can indeed be chalked up to unnecessary bloat.

but if anyone tells you the filmmakers don't get superman as a character they're just plain misreading the film. if anything, i liked the way supes is portrayed here. this is not a superhero who has figured out the "hero" part entirely. he's a work in progress and he knows it. BUT clark/kal-el has learned things since the last film and he's shown to be learning throughout this film... what it really means to be a hero, what it takes, and the sacrifices that come with it. i actually think snyder/terrio made supes quite a sympathetic character.

and this is clearly juxtaposed against his polar opposite in batman/bruce, whose worldview and values are as cynical and unforgiving as clark's is hopeful and forgiving. what I like about the "versus" here is that it does not just stand for a 2-hour superhero beatdown. it goes out of its way to establish the ideological, emotional and (to a lesser extent) psychological differences of these two men.

i could go on, but bottom line is, i really enjoyed the film. it certainly has flaws, some i found particularly clumsy and odd. but nothing really fatal that would qualify this film as "bad/crap/garbage/etc". not even close. the principal cast is great: batfleck stands out, WW gadot is cheer-worthy in her short action scenes, and cavill is fine. he certainly isn't wooden, he's just given slightly less opportunity to shine. there are some beautiful emotional moments in here. one in particular concerns how they end their battle, and as irishjedi (if i'm not mistaken) pointed out, it is a rather elegant resolution.

also, the action climax isn't an exercise in overkill like MoS (which I liked too). it lasts just long enough to not outstay not its welcome, and has enough variety in the sense of who's-doing-what-to-whom so it never feels repetitive (again, like MoS).

lastly, the cinema i was in gave a resounding round of applause at the end of the movie. which is rare, if you know anything about asian audiences. take that as you will. your personal mileage will of course vary, but i say, don't listen to critics who don't seem to be able to separate their personal issues from the viewing experience.

Ok good to hear that..................what the audiences like is all that matters really
 
lastly, the cinema i was in gave a resounding round of applause at the end of the movie. which is rare, if you know anything about asian audiences. take that as you will. your personal mileage will of course vary, but i say, don't listen to critics who don't seem to be able to separate their personal issues from the viewing experience.

Are you from Kuala Lumpur? Malaysians eat up anything.
 
I personally am confused by the "DC is doing something different with their universe and people just don't get that" & "I am glad they are taking a different approach than the Marvel films" arguments.

Can anyone explain to me why? Why exactly would they need to make their films darker and more adult than Marvel's films? Why are you happy that they are seemingly limiting their audience for no other reason than to be "different" than Marvel? Its not like the world wouldn't accept more comic book films geared towards broad audiences. Its not like these films don't stem from the same medium geared towards the exact same audience. Its not like kids don't like Captain America & Spider-MAn AND Batman & Superman and wouldn't like to be part of the audience for both. It isn't like the Marvel films are cheapening their characters by trying to make them as accessible as possible without compromising their integrity. It isn't like they aren't generally well-received, or that they are slammed by "mature" comic fans for not making it "for them" alone.

That just seems like an easy excuse to justify Snyder's approach. "Well he is doing this to make it different than Marvel." Okay... but why? Why does it HAVE to be different? It really doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you think about it. Why not worry about just making the best films you can instead of trying to make them "different"?

I just don't get it.

I am a bigger fan of the DC characters than I am the Marvel ones.... but so far I am much happier with Marvel Studios approach to their films. I am not afraid to admit when they make dogs though.

Iron Man 2 was pretty bad.
Iron Man 3 was awful.
Avengers 2 was mediocre.

Same goes for DC... but sadly there hasn't been a really good one in quite awhile. And sadly BvS continues this trend. And just saying "well its a different approach than Marvel" isn't a big enough band-aid to fix it. Sure, that could be used to excuse why it presents another grim, dreary look at superheroes... and why everyone seems to be sad most of the time... and the overwhelming lack of fun presented here (especially from Superman... who really should be a fun character). But it doesn't excuse its weakest point- The film has one of the messiest plot I have ever seen. It falls apart with even the slightest bit of questioning. And to make matters worse, the film gets incredibly overloaded with non-sensical sequences and "ooohhh... there is so and so" appearances that add nothing to an already herky-jerky story.

And a film like this is usually only as good as its villain. And if we call Eisen-Lex the main villain of this piece... Well, it just can't overcome how painfully awful he is.

Sorry to come across as a rant there. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. This is just mine.

Sallah
 
Being this a toy forum, I just want a revival in the DC hot toys line so they can justify dwelving back into the the older batman catalogs with all the current batman hype


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