Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[GasparZizou]

I predict an eventual thread closure, with a re-opening of a second thread, which will be more civil for a few posts until someone lights the fire again. I'm looking at crows, Rory, Gaspar... heck, anyone really. Then it's a party again.

But it's pretty civil and peaceful right now, am I missing something?

 

[Solidus]

The calm before the storm .

 

[Khev]

Based on what people are saying I don't even see why there'd need to be a ****storm over this. Sounds like at best it's going to be a Zack Snyder movie and at worst it's going to be a...Zack Snyder movie. So nothing people haven't been wondering about/braced for for the last three years now.

 

[olbertfrog]

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This image conveys literally everything you need to know about Superman. The feelings this evokes through colour, composition, etc. What is so hard about finding writers and directors who 'get' this? Is everyone so bitterly cynical in this day and age that we have to drag a modern-day icon of hope and aspiration down to our grubby level?

I totally agree but this superman has been superman for years, the one in the movie for 18 months.

 

[olbertfrog]

Based on what people are saying I don't even see why there'd need to be a ****storm over this. Sounds like at best it's going to be a Zack Snyder movie and at worst it's going to be a...Zach Snyder movie. So nothing people haven't been wondering about/braced for for the last three years now.

I have no doubt the **** Will hit the fans on friday lol

 

[batfan08]

Well said.. Rep point given



Other then 1939 Batman and the 89 batman (I did not like him killing in that one either) O can't think of 9or just don;t know of ) any stories of Batman flat out killing people. Not like the gif here and not like in Batman 89.. Are there are other examples?

As for the "they are all Valid interpretations"... Well that don;t make them good ones

Again, though, still valid...and good is entirely subjective.

 

[batfan08]

I can't see WB letting Snyder direct Justice League...maybe Affleck should direct JL now.

It would probably be the only way for me to give it a chance.

I know it would probably be detrimental to their plans, but, if they ever did do something along those lines, the smart play would be to let him do his solo Batman movie first. Get his feet wet a little bit before jumping into the deep end.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

But it's pretty civil and peaceful right now, am I missing something?

 

[GasparZizou]

So you're Mike huh?

 

[rushmore223]

Thank you for the childish thing.
Very Nice of you.
As for liking the movie you might want to read What i said a few pages ago.
I havent read any reviews, but legimate bad reviews are not What im aiming, this going to surprise you coming from a childish guy but i wont be surprised that a lot of people Will end up not liking the movie and even crazier its that i with my childish mind i think they have the right to.
Im talking about articles like this last one from movienews or the Drew mcwenny article based on nothing.
Also the worst being that article about the guy who died of cancer and wanted to see the movie, when you know that the real story is that the guy got his wish actually...
Smear campaign period.

Perhaps I could have found a nicer way to phrase it, and while I quoted you, my response wasn't focused solely on you.

People like things for different reasons, implying there is some kind of formula that discredits the outcome is silly, this is "art" not math. Saying that since Hulk or Thor scored higher, that disqualifies the results is absurd logic. Taste is not quantifiable, I think I have good taste, but still there are movies I like that I know aren't particularly good. My tastes could be directly opposite yours, but that doesn't mean one of us is wrong, same goes for critics.

 

[rushmore223]

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I hear DoomsDay is the BeezNeez!

That is the Cave Troll from LOTR!

Glad to see he's still getting work, even if he keeps getting typecast.

 

[Ropen]

Seems like this the bubble popping from the super hero hype and it's about damn time.


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[WWEJedi]

Looks like Jedi's prayers have been answered.

Prayers for a reboot? Yes. I wanted this to be good though.

Ahmed Best finally tweeted him back?

Who is he?

Seems like this the bubble popping from the super hero hype and it's about damn time.
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Only on DC movies.

 

[WWEJedi]

But it's pretty civil and peaceful right now, am I missing something?

They want to see a fight. Then they probably want to try to get people banned like they tried to do to me. They are mere instigators to a rather civil discussion.

 

[GasparZizou]

Seems like this the bubble popping from the super hero hype and it's about damn time.

I don't think so, only for DC, apparently.

Saying that since Hulk or Thor scored higher, that disqualifies the results is absurd logic.

It isn't, it's at the very least worthy of suspicion, if it isn't true, that is.

 

[Gully Foyle]

This image conveys literally everything you need to know about Superman. The feelings this evokes through colour, composition, etc. What is so hard about finding writers and directors who 'get' this? Is everyone so bitterly cynical in this day and age that we have to drag a modern-day icon of hope and aspiration down to our grubby level?

You make a great point, but after MoS wasn't it clear we're stuck with a de-saturated, de-mystifyed & dour Supes?

Considering the current world climate regarding war/terrorism/collapse, why would WB think audiences would desire more bleakness and carnage?

Recall how Raimi's first Spider-Man in 2002 gave audiences the escapism they craved after 9-11.
That tone went a long way towards that film's success.
Warner Bros. is so obtuse that this lesson was lost on them.


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[jye4ever]

Oh? What did he said?

I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman. They’re not just, like, the flavour of the week Ant-Man – not to be mean, but whatever it is.

You didnt like DP Jye? But all those lolz!

Bad jokes.

When you think about it, none of the Batman or Superman movies are very good. Like I'm starting to see that now.


The Donner Superman movie has a horrible ending. That Earth rotation thing where he goes back in time is a cop out and as much as I like the movie, it hasn't held up well at all. The only good thing about it is Christopher Reeve as Superman when you get down to the brass taxes. Superman II? It has no idea what it wants to be. It's literally split between two aesthetics and directions. It doesn't know if it's drama or a slapstick show.

Batman 1989 is really style over substance no matter how much I hate to admit it. It's iconic because it's designed really well with an academy award winning art direction, not because it's script is any good. The story in Batman Returns is terrible and whacky. It's weird and isn't a proper sequel in any way shape or form. It's lauded because of how it looks and because the actors are able to transcend what they're working with. The actual script is silly.

Batman Begins turns into a cliched **** show the moment he dons the cowl and cape. Everything preceding that with the origin and training was well done, but they never manage to make Batman as interesting as Bruce Wayne. It also has Rachel Dawes which destroys it's credibility. The Dark Knight is the Heath Ledger Joker show. Joker and his philosophical view point is the best part of the movie. Batman begins his descent into being a blithering ***** and "Two-Face" isn't done justice at all. In fact, he's one of the most short winded adaptations of a great character from comic to screen. TDKR sets up all these ideas like a class war and civil unrest and does nothing with them. Batman is barely in it and has a ******, forgettable send off for being the first version of the character to get three movies.

Superman Returns is boring and mediocre. It relied on nostalgia from a dead, bloated, beaten horse (the Christopher Reeve Superman franchise) and the only new thing it introduced was a lame son/baby daddy subplot that went no where. Man of Steel is bloated like TDKR and doesn't make Superman very likable or heroic. The tone is all over the place and it feels grim and nihilistic. Those aren't two things I think about when I think of Superman.


Batman v Superman has a lot to live up to.

WOW

But pretty accurate.

But we still love them.

Apparently, now they're saying Terrio only touched up the dialogue, but the plot and everything is pretty much Goyer.

I don't care anymore, I've outgrown the critics and the hive mentality at this point, like someone has said a few pages back, this movie is going to live or die on its own merits and I'm gonna be completely unbiased, the rest is noise.

Great post.

Friday is gonna be weird. I really hope this isn't the end for dc. People are tired of reboots. Who are they gonna reboot? Superman again? Or batman?

I bet you end up liking the film. I think I will too, because the expectations are so low, that it would have to be Batman and Robin bad for it to be a disappointment.

Well said.

 

[greygoose]

Seems like this the bubble popping from the super hero hype and it's about damn time.


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There's still CW, Thor 3, Infinity War I & II, GoTG2, WW, JL and probs more I've missed...

 

[FSLAR]

That puppy is having fun though.

Puppies have fun with everything! believe me

...and who's to say some of the people here aren't having fun? Maybe there's some of charm in arguing that they see that we don't!

 

[WWEJedi]

I bet you end up liking the film. I think I will too, because the expectations are so low, that it would have to be Batman and Robin bad for it to be a disappointment.

I don't know... the more I read about it the more I don't like it. Some of the things about Batman I don't like, who at one point was clearly the bright spot of the movie, now...