Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[kryptonianmutie]

Batman 89 we were too busy bitching about a younger Joker killing Bruce's parents.

We were also bitching about it being the most over hyped movie ever made at the time. Bat mania really did take over the country for awhile.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah, fans need to temper their expectations. FFS he's only been Superman for two movies now.

Do your own saving and stop waiting for someone else to do it fo you!

 

[LOTRfan85]

Actually, what he points out is that Superman has the power to wipe out the ENTIRE Human race. That's just a tad different.

Also, again... the Keaton and Nolan Batman both also killed people, some in almost the exact same ways as in BvS. Where was all of this righteous indignation then?

Afflecks batman is just written so bad, he performed a good batman but a written character, but both Clark and Bruce preach about vigilantly and they are both contraducting the other. The sad thing for joker, how is he going to top lex? It's hard to top doomsday plan for destruction, lex is completely insane. I just do not like Bruce is now a all out killer and it's never seen has a big deal, oh Bruce has killed another. It's also sad we never go into the mind of Clark about how he feels about zods death, don't think Clark even says his name

 

[crows]

It's obvious that these guys went into this movie wanting to hate it.

The Batman killing is blown way out of proportion. He had a no kill policy, black zero happened, he will do anything to make sure it doesn't happen again, the lives of a few thugs mean nothing when he is trying to save billions, after he saw that Superman was good he has changed the way he views things, no kill policy back in place. This was very obvious in the movie if people actually paid attention.

it doesn't mean they are completely wrong,
they are not paid shills or critics for a major magazine or anything like that either. so the whole "the critics are just conceited arrogant pretentious *******" doesn't hold up here.

That's why I love Youtube reviewers so much, because the whole "critics are just old rich farts that are disconnected from real audiences" Doesn't hold up when it comes to guys like US reviewing these movies

they made a lot of really good points.

 

[jye4ever]

We were also bitching about it being the most over hyped movie ever made at the time. Bat mania really did take over the country for awhile.

It certainly was, it was the TFA of 88/89 which is amazing when think about it pre internet!

But for me the movie delivered big time, I was able to cherish my 66 while being in awe of the 89 costume and batmobile!

If anything we might've embraced the darkness because we were tired of Superman being too goody goody.

 

[YoNoSe]

Even with my issues with this movie I think it gives the best treatment to Batman's "no kill" rule we've seen to date on live action film. At least as far as i can remember.

Keaton Batman is basically an 80s action hero and it never comes up.

Bale Batman states that he doesn't kill, scolds other characters about killing, then TOTALLY kills people without it being addressed.

Affleck Batman doesn't directly address it but it is mentioned that his tactics have changed (not in a good way) and he does seem to associate (at least in my interpretation) the final blow he would have struck to Superman with the murder of his helpless mother.

I honestly don't remember if it's addressed in Batman & Robin or Forever.

 

[crows]

Afflecks batman is just written so bad, he performed a good batman but a written character, but both Clark and Bruce preach about vigilantly and they are both contraducting the other. The sad thing for joker, how is he going to top lex? It's hard to top doomsday plan for destruction, lex is completely insane. I just do not like Bruce is now a all out killer and it's never seen has a big deal, oh Bruce has killed another

this movie be like:

 

[DiFabio]

Also, again... the Keaton and Nolan Batman both also killed people, some in almost the exact same ways as in BvS. Where was all of this righteous indignation then?

Nolan Batman dindu nuffin, he a good boy.

 

[jye4ever]

Even with my issues with this movie I think it gives the best treatment to Batman's "no kill" rule we've seen to date on live action film. At least as far as i can remember.

Keaton Batman is basically an 80s action hero and it never comes up.

Bale Batman states that he doesn't kill, scolds other characters about killing, then TOTALLY kills people without it being addressed.

Affleck Batman doesn't directly address it but it is mentioned that his tactics have changed (not in a good way) and he does seem to associate (at least in my interpretation) the final blow he would have struck to Superman with the murder of his helpless mother.

I honestly don't remember if it's addressed in Batman & Robin or Forever.

Yeah, had he shrugged off Martha and just let it rip, ok then...complain away.

BvS ain't perfect but i'll take it after TDKR....and it almost eliminated the need for MOS to exist if I squint just a little.

Nah...MOS is still needed, I honestly don't know yet if BvS has made me warm up to MOS.

 

[YoNoSe]

Do your own saving and stop waiting for someone else to do it fo you!

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Actually, what he points out is that Superman has the power to wipe out the ENTIRE Human race. That's just a tad different.

I see, Battfleck is envious and doesn't want competition

Also, again... the Keaton and Nolan Batman both also killed people, some in almost the exact same ways as in BvS. Where was all of this righteous indignation then?

Bale accidentally kills a few people...big difference considering how many people with firearms he fought in those films.

 

[IrishJedi]

Nolan Batman dindu nuffin, he a good boy.

I love all the lip services those movies pay to Batman's "1 rule". Especially in TDK, where he's already broken it (R'as castle in Batman Begins) and then does again in the very same movie it's preached about in (TDK) when he takes out Harvey Dent.

It would seem that all they needed to do in BvS was simply talk about Batman not killing and some people then wouldn't care that he did.

 

[jye4ever]

He wiped out an entire row of parked cars.

 

[jye4ever]

It would seem that all they needed to do in BvS was simply talk about Batman not killing and some people then wouldn't care that he did.

 

[Boba Ben]

I wasn't expecting Dent to die in Dark Knight. It didn't seem like a huge fall, but he dead anyway.

 

[DiFabio]

Bale accidentally.

Tell that to these two bro.

 

[YoNoSe]

 

[IrishJedi]

 

[jye4ever]

/\lol/\

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I love all the lip services those movies pay to Batman's "1 rule". Especially in TDK, where he's already broken it (R'as castle in Batman Begins) and then does again in the very same movie it's preached about in (TDK) when he takes out Harvey Dent.

Yes, Bale burned down Ras house and a bunch of people died, but he wasn't Batman yet, and it was accident. He refused to kill a guy...and in doing so, everybody died...including the guy he refused to kill, probably...but, that' wasn't his intention, whereas Battfleck just kills people and drags a car with two injured guys inside and eventually kills them.

As far as Harvey Dent, he tried talking sense into Harvey, he didn't just kill the guy. He was saving a little boy...and he pushed Harvey out of the way, big difference from Keaton burning a guy to death or Battfleck killing for no reason.