Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[jye4ever]

"And to all of you, uh, all you phonies, all of you two-faced fans, you sycophantic Disney suck-ups who smile through your teeth at negative reviews, please leave us in peace. Please go. Stop smiling. It's not a joke. Please leave. The party's over. Get out."

Returned about 45 min ago from my 3rd viewing, this movie just doesn't get bad for me.

I sat there thinking...ok...lets see if things people are complaining about penentrate my defenses so that I can truly see this awfulness for myself.

NO NO and NO!

I still enjoyed all of it, even the slower first half build up had me engaged and that final half still kicked ***!

I guess I get the complaints against AOU and BvS, but I enjoyed both and BvS is better than AOU for me.

 

[jye4ever]

I don't know if this has been answered yet, as there are a lot of pages, but theaters keep next to nothing of the ticket sales. With a big release, studios will often take nearly all the revenue from ticket sales for the first 4 weeks, after 4 weeks, theaters start getting a bigger and bigger percentage. This is why a large soda will cost you $6 and a $1 candy will cost you $5 in the theater.

And i'm the sucker who buys concessions.

 

[Adolfo]

It really did, the 6 of us that really liked it should meet up for a beer.

the 6 of us can take on the 60 ******* no problem...as long as you remain green

 

[Adolfo]

Returned about 45 min ago from my 3rd viewing, this movie just doesn't get bad for me.

I sat there thinking...ok...lets see if things people are complaining about penentrate my defenses so that I can truly see this awfulness for myself.

NO NO and NO!

I still enjoyed all of it, even the slower first half build up had me engaged and that final half still kicked ***!

I guess I get the complaints against AOU and BvS, but I enjoyed both and BvS is better than AOU for me.

starting to like your company more n more bro ....and for some damn reason am starting to hope that Kevin Costner shows up as somebody's dad in a future Star Wars film...

 

[batfan08]

"And to all of you, uh, all you phonies, all of you two-faced fans, you sycophantic Disney suck-ups who smile through your teeth at negative reviews, please leave us in peace. Please go. Stop smiling. It's not a joke. Please leave. The party's over. Get out."

QFT, Mr. Wayne!

 

[SnakeDoctor]

"And to all of you, uh, all you phonies, all of you two-faced fans, you sycophantic Disney suck-ups who smile through your teeth at negative reviews, please leave us in peace. Please go. Stop smiling. It's not a joke. Please leave. The party's over. Get out."

SnakeDoc

 

[SNIKT1950]

Returned about 45 min ago from my 3rd viewing, this movie just doesn't get bad for me.

I sat there thinking...ok...lets see if things people are complaining about penentrate my defenses so that I can truly see this awfulness for myself.

NO NO and NO!

I still enjoyed all of it, even the slower first half build up had me engaged and that final half still kicked ***!

I guess I get the complaints against AOU and BvS, but I enjoyed both and BvS is better than AOU for me.

Just got home from my third showing.

The film went up half a point today.

New rating: 9/10.

Damn good movie and my [65-year-old] mother loved it.

Can't wait for [Snyder's] JLA.

*Cannot for the life of me understand how people didn't like this movie. Whatever.

 

[jye4ever]

Dang, your 65 year old mom loved it!

That's the kind of 65 year old I want to be, **** that AARP crap!

 

[jedibear]

Went for my second viewing this weekend...I like to see something once and then let it percolate a bit in my head before seeing it again.


So here are some ramblings from me...

After my first viewing, I liked it, but I did have some issues with it. It was too long, I didn't like Eisenberg's take on Luthor (though I was relieved his motivation wasn't another land deal), the whole "doomsday" thing felt underdeveloped and tacked on, the quick glimpse of other DC characters felt obligatory and not organic to the story and Wonder Woman seemed a little shoehorned in. It seemed to lack a little focus...a lot of the new Batman, and not so much Superman. Too many visions and dreams within dreams...

What I liked was...the music, the look (production) and, although I was biased against him, I ended up really liking Affleck's take on the character. The way Snyder puts his shots together...a lot of them really did have a "comic panel" look to them that I liked a lot. Jeremy Iron's take on Alfred was good too...in a real story-visual-shorthand cool sort of way, one is left with the impression that this Alfred was more a compatriot to Thomas Wayne and not just a manservant. He had a history outside the manor and that was kind of cool. I loved the fight choreography...especially Batman. It felt and looked suitably brutal...

After last night's second viewing, well...it still seems a little long, mostly because the whole Doomsday sequence just seems "off". It might've helped if Zod had more of a part in it other than being a slab of meat to slice samples off of and his corpse just being a floater hooked up to a bunch of hoses that ended up creating this thing that...what the hell was it anyway. (And wasn't Michael Shannon a good sport) I was thinking when Lex enters the Kryptonian ship and activates the ship's system with the key....wouldn't it have been cool if Lex had interacted with a holo of Zod similar to the one of Jor-El that assisted Kal-El in MOS? Something that would have made that whole confrontation more than just a big CGI mess to end the movie with...

Lex didn't bug me as much the second time around...except for the aforementioned stuff with the Doomsday thing. And it might've made an interesting crossover idea to have him end up in Arkham Asylum instead of prison...considering he did seem pretty nuts there.

The movie still seems a little long...I know there is an "extended" version coming out on video later this year...I can only hope that it adds some clarity to the story and isn't just a collection of prolonged, more violent scenes (for that "R" rating).

I know a lot of fans of these two characters are having a tough time with how they're being portrayed in these movies...Batman does a lot of killing, Superman is way more conflicted. That is actually one of the things Snyder is doing here that I really like...going against the grain with these two gives them somewhere to go in their development. Some have grumbled about how the "fight" between the two wraps up...that actually worked for me...it kept it grounded.

Two of the coolest scenes that stick with me...the "Day of the Dead" rescue scene...as Superman gets overtaken by the adoring crowd, the visual harkens back to that chilling scene of Kal-El being enveloped by all of the skulls and bones in that vision with Zod in MOS, then it segues into one rescue after another with Clark performing these feats with no emotion...just duty..great stuff. Wayne constantly driving by that husk of a mansion to that flat, featureless glass-walled house shrouded in fog.

I like this movie. It does suffer from the old "too many hands" issue that can plague these big tent pole movies...I wonder if there was a cut of it that didn't have all of those elements in it that felt forced in...that would be something to see. It certainly is one I'll view many times. Can't say that for that other genre movie like this, "Age of Ultron" another movie with too many characters and too much going on. Everyone in that felt like they just had to show up and get it done...it's completely joyless. I made it through once in the theater and bought the Blu-ray....haven't watched it all the way through again...it's too much like work.

BvS left me wanting more....more of Affleck's take on Batman, more of Cavill's Superman...and despite the flimsy introduction, I do want to see where they plan on taking Wonder Woman. What I'm NOT in a hurry for is the whole "Justice League" thing. Nothing shown in this movie peaked my interest in that...seems too much like "The Avengers" -too much work for too little. Would love to be wrong...I certainly was about Affleck in this one.

I'll get another viewing or two in the theater of BvS....

 

[SNIKT1950]

Dang, your 65 year old mom loved it!

That's the kind of 65 year old I want to be, **** that AARP crap!

She wouldn't stop talking about the movie afterwards (it was a 40-minute drive to drop her off home lol).

She was shocked when I told her the film was critically panned. Her first reaction to that was "Why?"

That's the question I continually ask myself when reading negative reactions.

 

[jye4ever]

She wouldn't stop talking about the movie afterwards (it was a 40-minute drive to drop her off home lol).

She was shocked when I told her the film was critically panned. Her first reaction to that was "Why?"

That's the question I continually ask myself when reading negative reactions.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

That's the question I continually ask myself when reading negative reactions.

 

[jye4ever]

The only logical next step

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

That's right, Batman's on top.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

That's so cute that Superman is letting Bruce use him as a sled.

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

2. He did not have time at all to put it back on. For all we know it requires heavy machinery to put it back on.

There was no explanation for the armoured suit at all. I brought this up before and only received abuse from people who didn't think it mattered that we knew NOTHING about it. It's a more important detail in the story than any of the dream sequences that were shoehorned in.

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

As for the people moaning about the tub scene... Are you serious

 

[GasparZizou]

There was no explanation for the armoured suit at all. I brought this up before and only received abuse from people who didn't think it mattered that we knew NOTHING about it. It's a more important detail in the story than any of the dream sequences that were shoehorned in.

But it doesn't matter that we know nothing about it, it's a huge mech-armor capable of punching a weakened Supes, and it was a bit hard to lift for a weakened Supes too, you can infer a couple things from that, it's just a cool gadget. You don't need to know anything that matters in the story related to that armor. Like the Hulkbuster, it's just a tool to punch a heavy hitter a couple times, that's all you need to know.

The Dream sequences are much more important.

My point you just quoted, he did not have time to put it back on even if he could put it on by himself, which I highly doubt, even wondering if he had enough time to put it back on is ridiculous.

 

[crows]

That's right, Batman's on top.

you know that pose still makes him bottom right?

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

But it doesn't matter that we know nothing about it, it's a huge mech-armor capable of punching a weakened Supes, and it was a bit hard to lift for a weakened Supes too, you can infer a couple things from that, it's just a cool gadget. You don't need to know anything that matters in the story related to that armor. Like the Hulkbuster, it's just a tool to punch a heavy hitter a couple times, that's all you need to know.

The Dream sequences are much more important.

My point you just quoted, he did not have time to put it back on even if he could put it on by himself, which I highly doubt, even wondering if he had enough time to put it back on is ridiculous.

The origins of the Hulkbuster are explained before it appears. The 'armoured batsuit' is not mentioned at all. Was it made with the specific intentions of using it against Superman? Is it an older suit that has been used in the past? Is it mechanical, or just a suit with armour plates? Just a couple of lines would've cleared things up. As for a lot of the dreams, they contribute NOTHING to the story in hand.

I wasn't responding to your quote as a whole, I just picked out one of your points.