Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[jye4ever]

You haven't heard, Snyder killed cinema.

BvS is soooo bad it makes Norbit 5 look like a masterpiece!

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

You haven't heard, Snyder killed cinema.

BvS is soooo bad it makes Norbit 5 look like a masterpiece!

BVS is the real reason Han Solo died.

 

[chewblacca]

Batman v Superman. It's so bad it's good!

 

[crows]

I wonder what's the story behind this scene? It looks like an old ship in an area where there's very little water. I like how he easily drags it.

He is walking on water cus he's Jesus

 

[kryptonianmutie]

He is walking on water cus he's Jesus

[emoji38]Subtlety, thy name not be known as Zachariah Snyder.

 

[jye4ever]

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[YoNoSe]

2014...so only four years after movie started shooting.

 

[IrishJedi]

Solution! Zack should just have Clay do all the interviews from now on:

MEET THE CREW: Still Photographer: Clay Enos

Clay not only says the right things almost every time, he's also quite possibly the nicest man on Earth, and a true force of positive energy to everyone around him. Even on the most stressful of days, you can stop and turn to Clay and he'll have smile on his face. And whenever there is something even remotely troubling me in recent years... whether something trivial or an actual existential crisis... he is the first person I look to speak with. Because, again, he always seems to know just what to say, and always finds the positive.

I'm glad AICN and others are giving him the attention and credit he very much deserves.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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[jye4ever]

2014...so only four years after movie started shooting.

Fixed!

 

[YoNoSe]

Fixed!

 

[IrishJedi]

Did you guys really listen to the interview? Or much like the movie, decided to pick and choose what you want to see or hear to find something wrong with it?

He wasnt talking about costume heroes talking to each other are weird in general, he was talking about the dialogue with Batman and Superman in the context of their differences.
Its not like he was saying its stupid to see costume heroes talking to each other.
But the whole confrontation between batman and superman babbling to each other before fighting didnt look right so he left it with their alter ego's doing the conversation, and the small part of do you bleed...then lead it all to the big fight.

This is the same context as in AOU when Cap, IM, Hawkeye, and Widow are about to fight Ulron...with the cant break an omellete without breaking some eggs talk.
He had Batman and Superman have the same thing, and talk before fighting, and to him, it just didnt work.

And as far as the talk about the alter ego is concerned, to me...it sounds like he's one of those people that gets ahead of themselves trying to explain something, which can sound off. I sometimes do this also when I'm trying to explain something.
But its pretty easy to see what he's trying to emphasize was that there was no need to explain why Luthor knows who they are.
And that by trying to explain, you may even end up undermining a possible even better explanation on how Luthor did it.
I dont know if it was Snyder who said it or the other guy who even joked about Luthor creating a being to figure out their alter egos, which is of course, poking fun of the whole concept of it.

He explains how in today's world, it is kinda crazy how people can actually hide an identity, like just wearing a mask and BAM...no one knows who they are. So its not hard to conceive a genius like Luthor figuring out who they are. And that to me seems to where he pokes fun of the whole secret identity.

I did not hear one thing about that interview where it sounded like he's weird or drunk or not making sense.
Everything he said made sense...but if people would like to pick and choose what they want to hear...sure, its up to interpretation.

Yeah, I just listened to it as well. It's not nearly as bad as it seemed when seeing the quotes out of the context of the full conversation earlier.

He still needs to do a better job of choosing his words (which may be impossible, since he's a guy who's brain is constantly firing a million miles an hour), but I think it's pretty clear what he meant in this particular interview, and it's nothing worthy of backlash.

On the topic of superheroes talking in their costumes: Like Remy says, he's pretty much specifically talking about the conversation that Bruce and Clark have early on in the film. This is the "Heat scene", where the two opposing guys have a bit of a real chat before they clash later on full bore. What he's saying is that that scene (and what they were trying to say there) would not have worked as well if they were in full character and costumes. And, personally, I agree. And I think you'll continue to see the heroes having "normal people" conversations while in their civies... and then when they're in costume it's all "business". Makes sense to me. Mileage, of course, will vary,

On the topic of secret identities: What he's basically saying there is he finds it silly that people who are around (or even just know) the superheroes both as their alter egos and as their costumed heroes couldn't easily figure out who they are. Especially someone as intelligent and with as many resources as Lex Luthor. Or someone with as much street grit as Lois Lane. And he's absolutely right. Of course these characters (in this world that has been created) would figure out that Superman is Clark Kent, and vice versa. So it really needs no explanation on HOW Lex Luthor knows. He just does... because it would be very. very easy for someone like him. What Zack is NOT saying here is that the notion of heroes with secret identities is going way. It's not, and of course someone like Bruce Wayne could not reveal himself as Batman to the world, because as soon as he does the police and FBI are coming to arrest him.

Khev, you can return to DEFCON 5.

 

[SNIKT1950]

I love the way Snyder talks. There's no lie to him. His anti-Disney ANT-MAN comments were awesome.

 

[Adolfo]

You haven't heard, Snyder killed cinema.

BvS is soooo bad it makes Norbit 5 look like a masterpiece!

I hope Michael Bay does Star Wars,JLA and Avengers..4 of each film ..just to make you happy ...I'm serious

 

[Remy]

Yeah, I just listened to it as well. It's not nearly as bad as it seemed when seeing the quotes out of the context of the full conversation earlier.

He still needs to do a better job of choosing his words (which may be impossible, since he's a guy who's brain is constantly firing a million miles an hour), but I think it's pretty clear what he meant in this particular interview, and it's nothing worthy of backlash.

On the topic of superheroes talking in their costumes: Like Remy says, he's pretty much specifically talking about the conversation that Bruce and Clark have early on in the film. This is the "Heat scene", where the two opposing guys have a bit of a real chat before they clash later on full bore. What he's saying is that that scene (and what they were trying to say there) would not have worked as well if they were in full character and costumes. And, personally, I agree. And I think you'll continue to see the heroes having "normal people" conversations while in their civies... and then when they're in costume it's all "business". Makes sense to me. Mileage, of course, will vary,

On the topic of secret identities: What he's basically saying there is he finds it silly that people who are around (or even just know) the superheroes both as their alter egos and as their costumed heroes couldn't easily figure out who they are. Especially someone as intelligent and with as many resources as Lex Luthor. Or someone with as much street grit as Lois Lane. And he's absolutely right. Of course these characters (in this world that has been created) would figure out that Superman is Clark Kent, and vice versa. So it really needs no explanation on HOW Lex Luthor knows. He just does... because it would be very. very easy for someone like him. What Zack is NOT saying here is that the notion of heroes with secret identities is going way. It's not, and of course someone like Bruce Wayne could not reveal himself as Batman to the world, because as soon as he does the police and FBI are coming to arrest him.

Khev, you can return to DEFCON 5.

 

[JAWS]

Just got back from my second viewing... I still give it a 7 out of 10. I like the beginning more then the end. For me it starts to fall apart right after the do you Bleed part. The next 45 min to finally get to the fight is not as good as the first hour. then when the fight finally happens it just feels out of place hen compared to the first hour and a half of the film as does the whole doomsday fight. It all feels sort of tacked on.

I think the problem is that the film plays it so serious and so "realistic" that when the action finally hits it's hard to take it as seriously as I could take it in say a Marvel film which always knows what it is. I am not saying that it is wrong to make a very serious Comic film but because it plays it so serious and dramatic that it's a bit jarring when the over the top action hits. They end up feeling like I am watching two different films.

That is just my guess about this film because I really don't love the action and I think I should. I felt the same way with MOS. Perhaps Snyder is just not a very good action director. Or at least not a very imaginative one. I did like the Batman vs kidnappers scene though.

There are still moments I like and love. There are even moments I like in the fights. But it fails to deliver on its promise of "good" action.

I am glad the film overall did not get worse for me... But the scenes I like the first time I like more this viewing and the scenes I was not crazy about got worse. So my rating stays the same

 

[Victοr]

I love the way Snyder talks. There's no lie to him. His anti-Disney ANT-MAN comments were awesome.

In what way is this "awesome"?

"I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman. They’re not just, like, the flavour of the week Ant-Man – not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man?"

Is it because he was overconfident and ended up with a movie that was actually worse received by both critics and audiences? Is it "awesome" that he resorted to "fanboy war" mentality? I'm really curious to hear what in that quote is "awesome", as you put it...

 

[RIDDICK]

Mmm, yeah... I don't like Ant-Meh film but have to agree.
That comment of his is just a very childish taunt and nothing more.

 

[Victοr]

Mmm, yeah... I don't like Ant-Meh film but have to agree.
That comment of his is just a very childish taunt and nothing more.

Exactly. Ant-Man has some good moments, but it's no masterpiece. It's well-acted, funny at time, in general "good". Not great, just good. But what in Snyder's comments is "awesome"? He's not sticking it to the Man, he works for the Man! It's not like he's working at Valiant or something. Just because someone made a good product with a lesser known character, you don't have to get all salty. Try to outperform it and let your actions speak for you. But nah, why not diss while we can, right?

 

[SNIKT1950]

In what way is this "awesome"?

"I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman. They’re not just, like, the flavour of the week Ant-Man – not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man?"

Is it because he was overconfident and ended up with a movie that was actually worse received by both critics and audiences? Is it "awesome" that he resorted to "fanboy war" mentality? I'm really curious to hear what in that quote is "awesome", as you put it...

Hollywood is extremely political. Most actors, directors, writers, etc...rarely speak their minds. Its refreshing to hear Snyder say something that isn't PC but rather honest. ANT-MAN was garbage. I left the theater thinking the amount of money Disney spent on it could have been put to much better use. That's possibly the worst response I've had to a CBM in years. Why the **** should I care about Disney's money? It was just so underwhelming and generic that to justify its existence I turned to that train of thought.

*There are other examples of rare Hollywood honesty (Downey publicly trashed IM2, Alan Taylor disowned Thor TDW, Joss Whedon regrets having anything to do with Agents of SHIELD...)

My favorite though was that interview with Chris Evans in 2013 from the set of TWS where they asked him about his career and he cited SNOWPIERCER & SUNSHINE as the two films he's been in that he's most proud of.

So its not "Fanboy War Mentality" on Snyder's part as you call it but rather an honest opinion about a bull**** movie that somehow has an 80% on RT.

If Edgar Wright were to ever watch it (he'd never) he would probably puke.