So dissing a movie goes against that damn PC culture now. Wow. Seems like everything can be attributed to "PC" uh? What the hell does a "crap movie" have to do with Political Correctness anyway? And besides, I don't see the "awesome" in there. Snyder works for WB, the other Man apart from Disney. It's not like he's making movies based on lesser known Image or Dark Horse titles and he's going against the juggernauts, he is the juggernaut! But eh, that's your opinion and all, I'm not trying to change or criticize it. I was just curious is all...
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)
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So dissing a movie goes against that damn PC culture now. Wow. Seems like everything can be attributed to "PC" uh? What the hell does a "crap movie" have to do with Political Correctness anyway? And besides, I don't see the "awesome" in there. Snyder works for WB, the other Man apart from Disney. It's not like he's making movies based on lesser known Image or Dark Horse titles and he's going against the juggernauts, he is the juggernaut! But eh, that's your opinion and all, I'm not trying to change or criticize it. I was just curious is all...
OK, so I just saw the movie for the second time tonight. I wanted to see it twice before I commented on it. There are only a few things that bothered me about the film. First, I did not like the casting of Lex. I know this is his son but we needed his dad for this movie. Too many ticks, too many disjointed scenes with him, and too much sniveling at the end. Just not a fan of the character the way he was portrayed. Second, the whole Africa scene and the investigation Lois launches afterward is redundant. Lex trying to paint Supes as a possible bad guy was achieved when he blew up the Capital building. It's far easier for doubters to believe there was a conspiracy and Supes did blow up the building than to believe he shot to death a bunch of mercs and terrorists in Africa. Lastly (this is really minor), the scene where Bats visits Lex in prison shouldn't have taken place in the middle of the funeral. It seemed out of place to me.
As for the good, there's a lot I LOVED about the film:
BATMAN ROCKED! I loved Batfleck and can't wait to see more of him in the cape and cowl. The suit looked AWESOME and I really like the way Ben portrayed Bruce in the movie. He was intense and driven throughout. The only minor change I would make is to stop the branding of criminals. Just don't see why it's necessary. Bruce can do far more damage to any criminals with his fists and his mind. The fight scene at the warehouse was incredible. That scene looked like it was ripped straight out of an Arkham video game. Very brutal and intense. Definitely can't wait to see Ben in a solo Bats movie.
Supes was solid. This isn't the MOS we are used to seeing in the comics. He's conflicted and filled with questions and doubt. I'm OK with that. Hopefully he grows into the character we know in the books. This Superman is just starting out and I'm hoping that life experiences allow him to gain hope and become the man he wants to be...a man that is confident and believes in himself and the people of his adopted planet.
Wonder Woman was great in the small role she had. She was a fierce warrior princess and great as Diana. Gal did far better in the role than I expected and I'm actually looking forward to the WW movie.
Absolutely LOVED ALL of the dream sequences in this movie. What a great easter egg hunt for comics fans. Not only were they a lot of fun for me personally but they did a fantastic job of laying the ground work for the upcoming JL movie. I had ZERO issues with them and enjoyed them immensely.
I also liked the files Bruce found and shared with Diana. Seeing the metahumans in those clips was a fun and quick way of showing us important characters that will play a big part in future DC movies.
Doomsday was OK. I'd rather he looked like he does in the comics from the start when we see him in the movie. I know he starts to grow the bone spikes throughout his battle scene but the cave troll remarks are solid. He definitely looked like one when we first see him. There really was no need for that. Other than that, I had no issues with Doomsday. Sure, he was thrown into the movie but the Trinity could not be united if the threat wasn't large enough. The character served that purpose and I'm fine with that.
As a comic fan, this movie was a blast to watch. It had everything I could ask for as a comic geek. Batman, Superman, and WW were all the excuse I needed to go see this movie. The funny thing is that everyone I've seen this with (wife and kids the first time and a bunch of friends that are into comics the second time) really enjoyed it. Not one of them hated it. Sure, there were minor issues (as there are with just about any movie) but as a whole, everyone really liked it or loved it. Count me as one of those that LOVED it.
As for the good, there's a lot I LOVED about the film:
BATMAN ROCKED! I loved Batfleck and can't wait to see more of him in the cape and cowl. The suit looked AWESOME and I really like the way Ben portrayed Bruce in the movie. He was intense and driven throughout. The only minor change I would make is to stop the branding of criminals. Just don't see why it's necessary. Bruce can do far more damage to any criminals with his fists and his mind. The fight scene at the warehouse was incredible. That scene looked like it was ripped straight out of an Arkham video game. Very brutal and intense. Definitely can't wait to see Ben in a solo Bats movie.
Supes was solid. This isn't the MOS we are used to seeing in the comics. He's conflicted and filled with questions and doubt. I'm OK with that. Hopefully he grows into the character we know in the books. This Superman is just starting out and I'm hoping that life experiences allow him to gain hope and become the man he wants to be...a man that is confident and believes in himself and the people of his adopted planet.
Wonder Woman was great in the small role she had. She was a fierce warrior princess and great as Diana. Gal did far better in the role than I expected and I'm actually looking forward to the WW movie.
Absolutely LOVED ALL of the dream sequences in this movie. What a great easter egg hunt for comics fans. Not only were they a lot of fun for me personally but they did a fantastic job of laying the ground work for the upcoming JL movie. I had ZERO issues with them and enjoyed them immensely.
I also liked the files Bruce found and shared with Diana. Seeing the metahumans in those clips was a fun and quick way of showing us important characters that will play a big part in future DC movies.
Doomsday was OK. I'd rather he looked like he does in the comics from the start when we see him in the movie. I know he starts to grow the bone spikes throughout his battle scene but the cave troll remarks are solid. He definitely looked like one when we first see him. There really was no need for that. Other than that, I had no issues with Doomsday. Sure, he was thrown into the movie but the Trinity could not be united if the threat wasn't large enough. The character served that purpose and I'm fine with that.
As a comic fan, this movie was a blast to watch. It had everything I could ask for as a comic geek. Batman, Superman, and WW were all the excuse I needed to go see this movie. The funny thing is that everyone I've seen this with (wife and kids the first time and a bunch of friends that are into comics the second time) really enjoyed it. Not one of them hated it. Sure, there were minor issues (as there are with just about any movie) but as a whole, everyone really liked it or loved it. Count me as one of those that LOVED it.
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This.
Most people who badmouth this Superman fail to realize this is a young Supes who's maturing via trials and tribulations. Cavill himself has said in interviews that the journey of growth Supes is on ends with JLA. What comes after is a seasoned, battle-hardened leader that will take on the challenges of being Superman with a whole different outlook.
Glad you dug BvS. After three viewings it sits at a 9/10 for me. Can't wait for that 3-hour cut in July!
LOL! Yeah, and we all know that comic characters stay dead.
thats bull because that would mean superboy in that smallville tv show would have had an emo dark moody clark and it didnt
thats absurd, inexperienced dpesnt have to be dark moody and depressing.... i could see an older superman becoming more serious, but not just starting..
The timing though....
I felt this part of the Superman saga did not belong in this film. Superman hasn't really matured to the point where his death meant something. Not to his fellow heroes and not to the world at large. His death at this point felt nothing more than something every one knows will be undone in a later film.
if attacking ant man was "awesome" i cant wait to hear how "awesome" the interviews from people working on future marvel projects will be
i hope BvS gets brought up as a cautionary tale for how NOT to mess up a comic movie this bad
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The journey to maturity isn't over yet. It ends after JLA. The death is just the middle chapter where he experiences mortality firsthand. Next will probably be loss in the form of Lois' death.
Comics fans watching the movie know he's not dead...the people in the movie just saw him die to save the earth. I understand if that may not work for you, but it does for me. I had no issues with it.
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Agreed. All the people who doubted him ended up mourning him. Loved that funeral in Metropolis.
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Honestly, did you really think you were going to get a non-biased, level headed answer to the questions you posed?
I had some hope, truth be told. But, yeah...
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Comic fans, IMO, also know his "death" was not capitalized on and seem shoe horned into the film. If you remember the fight between DD and Supes in the comic. Superman was the "last line of defense", all on his own with all of his comrades either unavailable or fallen by the waist-side. The people of Metropolis could look at Supermans face while it was getting busted up by DD, they could see him bleed, have his bones broken, etc. All the while, still doing his best to save people amid the carnage. THATS what made that event special and made everyone realize what Superman meant to them when he died.
Juxtaposed to the Trinity fighting DD. It seemed like WW could possibly deal a death blow by chopping DD's head off at anytime, much less the 3 of them being able to find some solution better than Supes slowly flying (cavalry style) into Doomsday with something that is killing him as well. In the comic, Superman beat DD to death cause there was literally no option left. In BVS, there were a multitude of options. Thats why it cheapens the event, IMO. But hey, opinions.
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Theis dead, bury it. Consider this WB mercy.
Hahaha. Those lines will go down in infamy.
Theis dead, bury it. Consider this WB mercy.
"Abandon all hope, all ye who enter here..."
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Nah, apart from a few bad apples this thread is actually rather civil and level-headed. Not everyone agrees, but most are able to have a conversation and discuss the film. Plus, we have Irish who's able to provide inside info and fill-in some holes, which may answer certain questions. It certainly helped me with the Man-Bat thing. All in all, this thread ain't bad, but there are some folks who like to stir up trouble whenever they can with off-topic statements. But eh, what can you do...
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