Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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Involving the government was part of luthor's plan to spread xenophobia for superman.

Not sure if supes is aware of what kryptonite could do to him during the truck chase scene.


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At least the UE explains how the "bat-brand" was a mark of death in prison. Luthor was paying inmates to kill the branded criminals to make Batman look more cruel (although why any of that makes any sense I don't know - I would say its a badge of honour to have to have Batman come get you - also the Africa "frame job" is better fleshed out and explained too.

Still don't like the movie or Zack's direction (I actually Pressed stop during the doomsday fight because I had completely zoned out and lost any interest by the end). However, I'm glad they did an UE to flesh out bits for those that did. The studio are clearly to blame for demanding so much be crammed into this film and then want it shorter so that they could get more cash from extra screenings.
I saw Jesse Eisenberg in a theatre show last weekend in London and he was great. However his Lex belongs on the stage not in a movie as it was too over the top at times. Sometimes the film looked like a sequence of trailer clips all compiled together with no real connection from scene to scene (dream sequences, comments from survivors, religious iconography, baffling sentences that make no sense "redcapes are coming" , Superman trekking through a mountain (in winter gear??) to talk to his dead dad (another one), gal gadot's tacked on addition, Doomsdays tacked on addition, THAT wasted ending, the nausiating use of the word Martha over and over in the film, That conclusion to the fight, the fact superman doesn't make a valid effort to speak to Batman before they fight (it was a weak attempt at best) and pretty much the whole script.

Batfleck still rocks though. Hoping the studio leave him alone when it comes to making his Bat movie. Also love the batmobile design and the warehouse fight scene.
 
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I think that's the beauty of it. Luthor's hubris almost destroys the world. Had he succeeded in getting Batman to kill Superman, he would've, potentially, doomed the entire planet because he wanted to play God.

Great point.

The UE also succeeded in making me care more for Superman.
 
After Man of Steel I was really looking forward to seeing Batman and Superman together. I thought BvS was an ok movie but could have been better. Batman was great, but if the two heroes would just take a moment and talk a lot of stuff would have been avoided. I guess this is the age of hit first and share mom's name later.
 
Well, Superman tried.

But why would Batman trust anything this destructive alien has to say after just witnessing Congress being blown to hell.

You just have to put yourself in Batman's shoes to find the reason.
 
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Well, Superman tried.

But why would Batman trust anything this destructive alien has to say after just witnessing Congress being blown to hell.

You just have to put yourself in Batman's shoes to find the reason.

But in the Ultimate cut doesn't Superman stay and help? It seemed like it was known that Superman had nothing to do with the explosion.


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Remember he sent the pay checks back to Bruce Wayne with various threats/accusations in red so Bruce knew he was responsible not Superman.
 
But in the Ultimate cut doesn't Superman stay and help? It seemed like it was known that Superman had nothing to do with the explosion.


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Yup, saving the world and Superman not melting Bats head when they first met wasn't enough for Batman. He was really angry with the type of anger that can only be stopped by saying, ma...ma...martha! :lol
 
But in the Ultimate cut doesn't Superman stay and help? It seemed like it was known that Superman had nothing to do with the explosion.


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Batman only watched the theatrical.

But even if Batman had seen him helping people in Washington or anywhere else that wasn't his core problem with the alien of steel.
 
Superman's actions at the Capitol weren't the issue. In Batman's eyes, they were extended casualties of the Battle of Metropolis, and it only strengthened his belief that Superman was capable of more harm than good.
 
Batman only watched the theatrical.



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Right after batmans knight mare scene there is a vision of the flash from the future warning batman that he is right about superman, that he will be a threat in the future. is there more batman vs superman fights coming in justice league movies probably based on the injustice storyline?
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Did you see the Ultimate Cut DiFabio? Any thoughts?

Fast forwarded through most of it and watched the new scenes. Don't know what to say other than BvS just isn't for me. :lol

I can definitely see why they cut out most of the Clark Kent stuff. Gotham City is awful. It felt like it was just Detroit, a far cry from that wonderful concept art that is in the art book for BvS. What the hell was up with the black guy with the lottery card "Bamam gonna get u", or Kent going to GCPD that looks like a Law and Order set?

The one thing I loved though, and it's a quieter moment, are the Kansas people like the preist and red haired friend from Man of Steel. There's that great moment at the funeral. Martha Kent is all like, "wait, I have to pay the funeral bill", and they reassure her, "no you don't, someone already took care of it". Then it pans up and you finally see that Bruce Wayne attended the funeral as well, looking all solemn in the background, showing that, yeah, Bruce Wayne paid for all this. That's Batman to a tee and it was actually a nice, subtle moment.
 
If Batman's staff had give him the returned checks that guy would never have made it into the senate hearing. This is a human resources problem.
 
True, thanks for the explanation guys.

Other minor irritants: Why didn't Supes notice/care why Bats was chasing the truck? And why did Bats need a tracker to know it was going to LexCorp?

One thing that i now accepted from MOS and BVS is that Supes makes mistake and is still sometimes overpowered by his emotions (taking zod away from his mother but leave her with 2 other kryptonian duh?).
He is so focused on bat being a bad guy that he completely ignore Luthors goons.
The other thing being if he do stop the goons there is no kryptonite for Bat.
Could probably be written better but seriously when yu see What some of the most loved films lately get away with...
As for the tracker, Bat knew that Anatoli was in touch with Lex but the kryptonite could have gone somewhere else.
Better be safe.
But why put a tracker if hes not going to play it subtle?
He put a tracker then blow the **** out of them lol
 
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