Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

i always thought this guy would make a good batman

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Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

In honor of all you guys I watched MOS again last night. It wasn't that bad! You guys are way too hard on it. :lol

I even noticed some things that are commonly criticized that played better than I remembered. When Lois is falling out of the cargo plane at the end you see her going down with mostly light debris being pulled up into the black whole thing. Then right as Superman is about to grab her you actually see her stop and go upward for a split second. I never noticed that. So she would have been sucked into the thing as the pull got stronger.

Also "the kiss." I had forgotten that she literally kisses him the moment he sets her down and appears to be in a state of shock. People get crazy emotional and lovey dovey after near death experiences so I didn't find it that forced.

Then there's smug Superman at the end with the drone. Watching it again it came across to me like Supes was trying to be cute and coy with the army officer in an awkward attempt to lighten his demeanor. The guy wasn't in the mood so he wasn't phased but the girl saw that he was not being threatening and was able to let her guard down and focus on his "hotness." It was still a strange conversation but "awkwardly coy" is a whole lot different than being a smug jerk.
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Ok, but why crash the satellite in the road right in front of the general and not have it be misconstrued as an act of aggression? And if the general really didn't know that Superman was Clark Kent all he had to do was see where all the fighting began, at the Kent farm. If Lois could figure it out so could anyone with a little time on their hands. Surely Lex Luthor is smart enough to figure it out. I'd hate to be Martha Kent.
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Oh yes it was ridiculous how close that satellite came to the general's car. But I didn't find Supes' demeanor as offensive when he was actually talking to them.
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

Ok, but why crash the satellite in the road right in front of the general and not have it be misconstrued as an act of aggression? And if the general really didn't know that Superman was Clark Kent all he had to do was see where all the fighting began, at the Kent farm. If Lois could figure it out so could anyone with a little time on their hands. Surely Lex Luthor is smart enough to figure it out. I'd hate to be Martha Kent.

nitpicking
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

The hope BS has been in everything now. That was the reasoning for everything in ASM 2. Hope for radioactive spider blood, hope for A piece of Gwen's ass, hope, hope, hope.

Batman stands as a symbol of hope with a corny memorial statue in his honor. Superman stands for hope and his "S" literally means that in another culture. Now Spidey is riding the hope train. Hope, hope, hope. Makes me sick. What happened to the heroes from the 70s and 80s? Why are heroes all ******* now?

Because of this idiot:

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In Matthew Ellis we trust. :lecture
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

I know it's wrong but the first thing that popped into my head when I saw that picture was "aids soup".
 
Re: Batman vs. Superman (2016)

The hope BS has been in everything now. That was the reasoning for everything in ASM 2. Hope for radioactive spider blood, hope for A piece of Gwen's ass, hope, hope, hope.

Batman stands as a symbol of hope with a corny memorial statue in his honor. Superman stands for hope and his "S" literally means that in another culture. Now Spidey is riding the hope train. Hope, hope, hope. Makes me sick. What happened to the heroes from the 70s and 80s? Why are heroes all ******* now?

I love that one of your complaints about Man of Steel is the "hope" thing. Superman's been a symbol of hope for as long as I can remember. In the comics, he's the champion of earth; a god walking among men, and he lights the way for humanity to follow. Even in the Reeve films, that was made clear, with Brando's monologues about how "they only lack the light to show the way." In a lot of ways, though, I think your whole claim is ********. These are stories of extraordinary people doing extraordinary things for the good of their people; of course they're going to be associated with hope. That's one of the things that pisses me off about some Batman fans; they think just because he's relatively dark and brooding in some incarnations, that they can pidgeonholing him into being nothing more than an agent of fear, and a dark avenger. One of my favorite Batman stories ever is "Epilogue" from Justice League Unlimited, where Amanda Waller tells Terry McGinnis that she'd "never met anyone who cared as much for his fellow man as Bruce Wayne." Batman is an agent of Justice, not vengeance; if he were the latter, there's be nothing holding him back from becoming The Punisher. Point is:as long as there are superheroes, they will be associated with hope.
 
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