*BEWARE SPOILERS* Alien: Romulus

[a-dev]

I always thought that line was in a story that was carried into the future, given how famous Kyle was in that period, and that the T-800 was programmed to say it, in order to get her to trust it, given its appearance.

I don't think so. The T-800 didn't even want to go near Sarah Connor. He saw rescuing Sarah as a serious mission-risk. So it seems future John had not programmed any objective to also protect Sarah.

 

[T8OO]

I always thought that line was in a story that was carried into the future, given how famous Kyle was in that period, and that the T-800 was programmed to say it, in order to get her to trust it, given its appearance.

Exactly how I saw it

 

[jye4ever]

It sounds stupid to me - like as in a pantomime where they're expecting audience participation - giving them an opening to finish the line by shouting ''B!TCH'' at the screen.

/\THIS/\

 

[T8OO]

I don't think so. The T-800 didn't even want to go near Sarah Connor. He saw rescuing Sarah as a serious mission-risk. So it seems future John had not programmed any objective to also protect Sarah.

A good point. Tbf though it's a perfectly valid thing to say at the time even if it did work as a call back.

 

[ZE_501]

I don't think so. The T-800 didn't even want to go near Sarah Connor. He saw rescuing Sarah as a serious mission-risk. So it seems future John had not programmed any objective to also protect Sarah.

Really? It's been so long since I saw the film, I can't remember that ...

 

[a-dev]

A good point. Tbf though it's a perfectly valid thing to say at the time even if it did work as a call back.

If he were human I'd agree certainly but again I don't think it's a very machine-like thing to say. ''Come with me if you want to live'' - IF. Like he's entertaining the possibility that she might not want to live and will let her have that choice. It makes more sense for him to state that he has been ordered to protect her and that she must go with him immediately. But, y'know, not cool enough. And Cameron wanted that irony, I guess, of The Terminator saying Kyle Reese's line to Sarah - offering protection instead of life termination

Really? It's been so long since I saw the film, I can't remember that ...

''The T-1000's highest probability of success now will be to copy Sarah Connor and wait for you to make contact with her''

''great...what happens to her...''

''typically the subject being copied is terminated''

''oh **** why didn't you tell me! We gotta go right now!''

''negative, that's not a mission priority''



edit - Sorry for the off-topic page.

 

[T8OO]

If he were human I'd agree certainly but again I don't think it's a very machine-like thing to say. ''Come with me if you want to live'' - IF. Like he's entertaining the possibility that she might not want to live and will let her have that choice. It makes more sense for him to state that he has been ordered to protect her and that she must go with him immediately. But, y'know, not cool enough. And Cameron wanted that irony, I guess, of The Terminator saying Kyle Reese's line to Sarah - offering protection instead of life termination

edit - Sorry for the off-topic page.

You can't have it all can you. The T-800 could have killed everyone in the bar that attacked him (like T1) but it wouldn't have worked as well.

 

[Otomofan]

I HATE this trend of studios performing digital necromancy for nostaligia ****.
The actors are dead and they have no right to use their image in such a disrespectful way, just recast the bloody role!

If you don't like that, you're gonna hate where AI is gonna be in five years or less.

Well be able to take any of our favorite dead actors....say John Belushi for example, and put them into any scene we want, any setting...the imagination is the only limit. We could have Belushi waking up in a universe like the "Malkovich Malkovich" scene and it'll all look flawlessly real to the eye.

The true demise of the Hollywood studio system is right around the corner. Everyone on earth is essentially going to have a holodeck in the form of their PC. Why would you ever leave it?

 

[crows]

If you don't like that, you're gonna hate where AI is gonna be in five years or less.

Well be able to take any of our favorite dead actors....say John Belushi for example, and put them into any scene we want, any setting...the imagination is the only limit. We could have Belushi waking up in a universe like the "Malkovich Malkovich" scene and it'll all look flawlessly real to the eye.

The true demise of the Hollywood studio system is right around the corner. Everyone on earth is essentially going to have a holodeck in the form of their PC. Why would you ever leave it?

 

[jye4ever]

If you don't like that, you're gonna hate where AI is gonna be in five years or less.

Well be able to take any of our favorite dead actors....say John Belushi for example, and put them into any scene we want, any setting...the imagination is the only limit. We could have Belushi waking up in a universe like the "Malkovich Malkovich" scene and it'll all look flawlessly real to the eye.

The true demise of the Hollywood studio system is right around the corner. Everyone on earth is essentially going to have a holodeck in the form of their PC. Why would you ever leave it?

/\MIC DROP/\

/\A VERY FRIGHTENING MIC DROP/\

Or maybe it’s a good thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We as fans want our movies OUR WAY not Kathleen Kennedy’s way so AI might be the solution.

KK is the disease.

AI in the hands of fans is the cure?

 

[jye4ever]

Ok Alvarez said that “The Line” was HIS idea and admits that he did it to get the same audience reaction that Aliens got and was super relieved when he got it during the test screenings.

Umm does he not read this forum lol

Test screening really….REALLY!

That’s what made him feel comfortable with NOT BEING ORIGINAL and coming up with HIS OWN iconic line!

He could still be lying and it was a studio mandate.

But if it was him how gross that he wanted to use it for the exact same effect from Aliens, like WTF.

It was NEVER going to have the same effect, NEVER!

The young generation should go watch Aliens if they want the same impact we had in 1986.

 

[jye4ever]

I’m in no way saying that Alvarez is not a gifted filmmaker.

The guy firmly believes in real filmmaking with it not just being a means to an end.

What he means by that is that he despises the method of shooting everything out of order in green screen and the actors just know their lines which creates a losing foundation right from the start for the actors being removed from feeling the story and just going thru the motions.

He said it defeats the whole purpose.

He prefers shooting chronologically with in camera effects.

In other words he’s a latino Nolan lol

This is why it hurts more that he got lazy and went straight for that line so it’s highly possible that even though he’s accepting blame it was still a studio mandate.

 

[HyperDrive]

People laughed and seemed to enjoy that line at the showing I was at Friday night. Maybe it worked for most (?)

 

[a-dev]

People laughed and seemed to enjoy that line at the showing I was at Friday night. Maybe it worked for most (?)

Laughter is surely the wrong reaction to be going for.....

 

[Khev]

It sounds stupid to me - like as in a pantomime where they're expecting audience participation - giving them an opening to finish the line by shouting ''B!TCH'' at the screen.

Heh heh, they didn't go full Endgame "Avengers...assemble" if that's what you're assuming.

"Get away from her..."

Audience: "Oh God, here it comes, please God, let him say it, say it..."

"...you *****."

*cue clip of people at the bar going absolutely nuts when their soccer team wins*

lol

I honestly didn't make out the first part of what he even said over the roar of the pulse rifle. Then when his magazine empties and he looks at the dead xeno and says ***** I was all "oh that's what he was saying." But he delivers it so differently and with pretty much two separate statements so it was more of a retrospect realization for me that was clearly a callback, but not just a repeat of the line like your example in Terminator or "I have a bad feeling about this" or whatever else.

I don't recall my audience laughing or reacting, the moment just kind of came and went.

The more I think about this movie the more it resonates. Really fantastic.

 

[jye4ever]

Heh heh, they didn't go full Endgame "Avengers...assemble" if that's what you're assuming.

"Get away from her..."

Audience: "Oh God, here it comes, please God, let him say it, say it..."

"...you *****."

*cue clip of people at the bar going absolutely nuts when their soccer team wins*

lol

I honestly didn't make out the first part of what he even said over the roar of the pulse rifle. Then when his magazine empties and he looks at the dead xeno and says ***** I was all "oh that's what he was saying." But he delivers it so differently and with pretty much two separate statements so it was more of a retrospect realization for me that was clearly a callback, but not just a repeat of the line like your example in Terminator or "I have a bad feeling about this" or whatever else.

I don't recall my audience laughing or reacting, the moment just kind of came and went.

The more I think about this movie the more it resonates. Really fantastic.

a-dev has taken your advise and has decided to go watch Alien Romulus and even Deadpool and Wolverine he just needs a little patience is all….

 

[Khev]

Poor a-dev. He's got to be the unluckiest person on the planet when it comes to theatrical experiences, lol.

 

[jye4ever]

Poor a-dev. He's got to be the unluckiest person on the planet when it comes to theatrical experiences, lol.

Dude OMG holy crap go look at my photo again I can’t even type right now lol

 

[a-dev]

a-dev has taken your advise and has decided to go watch Alien Romulus and even Deadpool and Wolverine he just needs a little patience is all….

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It was actually just that one time, I love that it's become a running gag......running....I had to do a lot of that on that fateful day in the rain...to still arrive some 20 minutes late for my showing of Jurassic World, only front seats remained available, me on the extreme left, soaked to the skin and neck twisted for an hour and a half....I'll never go to the movies again

Spoiler

 

[Sassafras]

Havent watched it yet, but a friend of mine accidentally spoiled that the film rather distastefully ressurected a deceased actor - so my interest has plummeted.
I HATE this trend of studios performing digital necromancy for nostaligia ****.
The actors are dead and they have no right to use their image in such a disrespectful way, just recast the bloody role!

Also heard that the choice of Xenomorph undermines the ending of the original movie, which again turns me off - the reason I cant stand Alien3 is because it ruined Aliens ending and I dont want a repeat of that.
Does this film respect the original film or should I give it a miss?
I really dont like what they did to a certain actor if true and so I am already on the fence.

I'd say it's respectful and the director had a real love for the original material - unlike blatant ripoffs because a showrunner has no original ideas and/or wants to send messages -

but that's the thing; even if respectful when does it cross the line into rehash? For me it did. On the way out some company wanted us to rate the film. I gave it a B - based on the lavish sets, lots of details, reasonable acting, some fresh ideas, some good use of old ideas....but then there's plenty of rehash.

Wish I hadn't paid full price, but whatever.
The end tho clearly left the door open for more films, which is fine; IMO it's reasonable since the film sets up early on that it will take 9 years to get where they are going, and sort of don't know what will be there, but there's the dream of "seeing a sun" so -
the door is open for something actually nice happening. Or not. I appreciate a narrative that leads from point A to B,

I thought the Xeno baby monster looking like the Covenant/alien Creators/Prometheus heads - tho skinny blah blah - was dumb. There's no reason why blended DNA with a human female would end up looking like that. It was that kind of thing that made the film fall off for me. And the re-use of Ash was a big fail.