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Especially this:

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The statue doesn't look like BC at all. I don't see the facial hair either, so it could be a different actor playing classic comic strange.
 
The statue doesn't look like BC at all. I don't see the facial hair either, so it could be a different actor playing classic comic strange.
Looks like Cumberbatch to me.

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I noticed the lack of a beard too. Hey, what better way to get us to buy multiple dolls to swap the extra heads in order to get Classic Strange?

The theory of Campbell as Balder might hold true:

"The deal with Doctor Strange is interesting," Campbell is reported to have said. "A majority of the film was reshot extensively, so I have no idea what's in there and what isn’t. I did a cool scene with a character that's been beloved for years, and...we’ll have to see what ends up in the movie. I don’t know if it's still in there. It's a pretty cool part."

https://comicbookmovie.com/doctor_s...o-confirm-planned-cameo-in-the-sequel-a192385
I think that's a cool way for Raimi to do him a solid too. If people like him, they could bring him back to play Balder's main version too. It's always nice to have a steady paycheck. Had it been a funny winkwink cameo like Raimi-Mysterio, it couldn't be used down the line, but Balder can be expanded upon. Hemsworth's not going anywhere either, so they'll probably look into making more Thor flicks.
 
Looks like Cumberbatch to me.

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I noticed the lack of a beard too. Hey, what better way to get us to buy multiple dolls to swap the extra heads in order to get Classic Strange?


I think that's a cool way for Raimi to do him a solid too. If people like him, they could bring him back to play Balder's main version too. It's always nice to have a steady paycheck. Had it been a funny winkwink cameo like Raimi-Mysterio, it couldn't be used down the line, but Balder can be expanded upon. Hemsworth's not going anywhere either, so they'll probably look into making more Thor flicks.
I think if the cameos are fun and done right then Marvel would keep doing them. People on the interzwebs can cry all they want, but to see variants first then a main version down the road, that is just an interesting and fun approach. For all we know Campbell could be in Thor Love and Thunder. He would fit right into a Taika movie, that's for sure.
 
I think if the cameos are fun and done right then Marvel would keep doing them. People on the interzwebs can cry all they want, but to see variants first then a main version down the road, that is just an interesting and fun approach. For all we know Campbell could be in Thor Love and Thunder. He would fit right into a Taika movie, that's for sure.
Yup, agreed. It's just like in the actual comics where you have randoms show up for a panel, or a little epilogue, or are hiding in a crowd. It's just good fun. We're at such a stage with the MCU where it's established enough lore to be able to get away with such things. It's not like having 2 hours to tell a story and cramming 5 villains in it. One movie feeds the other, the runtime's longer, the audience's tolerance of comicbook-iness is stronger, so there's bound to be more "out there" aspects.
 
Yup, agreed. It's just like in the actual comics where you have randoms show up for a panel, or a little epilogue, or are hiding in a crowd. It's just good fun. We're at such a stage with the MCU where it's established enough lore to be able to get away with such things. It's not like having 2 hours to tell a story and cramming 5 villains in it. One movie feeds the other, the runtime's longer, the audience's tolerance of comicbook-iness is stronger, so there's bound to be more "out there" aspects.
I hope Hot Toys can do most if not all of them. Not a good track record with villains and sidekicks. Like how NWH was Spider-Man Endgame, this certainly feels the same. How would you even top this one?

I noticed no one even acknowledged my Rick and Morty comparison. It plays out a little like the trailer and it was a parody of the Council of Reeds.
 
I hope Hot Toys can do most if not all of them. Not a good track record with villains and sidekicks. Like how NWH was Spider-Man Endgame, this certainly feels the same. How would you even top this one?
Yeah, they weren't making villains and supporting characters before, let alone now with their current backlog and sheer number of movies/shows airing each year. Last I heard Stoll was supposed to return in Ant-Man 3 as MODOK, so while he's a figure I'd buy (I like both the actor and the character), we didn't get Yellowjacket the first time around, even after they showed a prototype, so what are his chances, really?

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It's too much, really. I have my lists and plans, but who knows? We might not even get half of what we're taking for sure things. Or they might hit PO a year from now as they're playing catchup. So sure, Reed might be in it, but maybe they'll never get to him and we might have to wait 4 months in the dark for an Xavier PO.

I noticed no one even acknowledged my Rick and Morty comparison. It plays out a little like the trailer and it was a parody of the Council of Reeds.
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I don't like that show. It's not even because normies latched onto it (even the STEMtards in my classes watched only that and GoT; sometimes I really do think the average person literally has no personality, and I say it as someone who's so autistic I have a checklist of traits I try to keep up). It always seemed unappealing to me, but I gave it a shot. I made it 3 episodes or something before unironic cuckoldry was the main plot, so I dropped it. I don't know if it was "le ebin satire" or whatever, but considering Harmon's other products, and that Roiland's gf literally did BLACKED **** (Abbie Maley's her name, you can check for yourself)...

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It's a very vulgar and trite show in general. I'm not a Puritan, but there's artistic freedom and then there's just nonsensical idecency. Hannibal was the goriest show around, but it was beautiful, even if it was cheesy. R&M is just insultingly crass. It being such a ripoff is an extra point against it. I don't like it at all, and the less I hear it or see it, the better. Are we forgetting how they brought in Harmon to add ****** jokes to the first DS?
 
Yeah, they weren't making villains and supporting characters before, let alone now with their current backlog and sheer number of movies/shows airing each year. Last I heard Stoll was supposed to return in Ant-Man 3 as MODOK, so while he's a figure I'd buy (I like both the actor and the character), we didn't get Yellowjacket the first time around, even after they showed a prototype, so what are his chances, really?

corey-stoll-modok-antman-banner.jpg


It's too much, really. I have my lists and plans, but who knows? We might not even get half of what we're taking for sure things. Or they might hit PO a year from now as they're playing catchup. So sure, Reed might be in it, but maybe they'll never get to him and we might have to wait 4 months in the dark for an Xavier PO.


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I don't like that show. It's not even because normies latched onto it (even the STEMtards in my classes watched only that and GoT; sometimes I really do think the average person literally has no personality, and I say it as someone who's so autistic I have a checklist of traits I try to keep up). It always seemed unappealing to me, but I gave it a shot. I made it 3 episodes or something before unironic cuckoldry was the main plot, so I dropped it. I don't know if it was "le ebin satire" or whatever, but considering Harmon's other products, and that Roiland's gf literally did BLACKED **** (Abbie Maley's her name, you can check for yourself)...

Jerry-and-parents-Rick-and-Morty.jpg


It's a very vulgar and trite show in general. I'm not a Puritan, but there's artistic freedom and then there's just nonsensical idecency. Hannibal was the goriest show around, but it was beautiful, even if it was cheesy. R&M is just insultingly crass. It being such a ripoff is an extra point against it. I don't like it at all, and the less I hear it or see it, the better. Are we forgetting how they brought in Harmon to add ****** jokes to the first DS?
I don't watch it, but I thought it was interesting that they took from the Council of Reeds. I like mind-bending, major reality changing events. Hickman's Secret Wars run with White Supremacist Doom was fun.

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It was probably Harmon that wrote the Beyonce joke into DS. Didn't need that in there.
 
I don't watch it, but I thought it was interesting that they took from the Council of Reeds.
Oh, thank goodness. The Council Of Reeds was more or less a homage to the Council Of Kangs.

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I've said it before, but it's honestly funny how the one character who can theoretically have tons of actors playing him, will literally have only that goofy clown doing so, because otherwise it'd be classified as black erasure. Hell man, couldn't they have at least gotten someone like Lance Reddick? Or at least not wasted Lawrence Fishbourne? It's like they're specifically messing with me with that casting...

Still, the Council Of Reeds was a great idea and it made for some really fun stories and characters. Some really great designs in there:

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Reed Luthor in particular was a standout:

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They're actually back again, albeit in smaller numbers and they haven't been used much:

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I loved Hickman's whole FF saga in general. Shield was really fun too. It was like Assassin's Creed, but actually good.

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I'd buy Sorcerer Supreme Newton, Tesla and Da Vinci in a heartbeat.

I like mind-bending, major reality changing events.
Same here. With comics where the "budget" is non-existent and you can do whatever you want, these are my favourite. It's why I like FF, GL, Cosmic Marvel and the such. The scope's huge and it really works.

Hickman's Secret Wars run with White Supremacist Doom was fun.
Heh. Doom's had some quasi-racist moments, but they've straightned him out over the years as he got more popular. Let's be honest, he's a Balkan gypsy, the Westerners writing him have literally no idea how high he'd rank on the "yikes" scale. But as a Balkan gypsy he'd never be a "White Supremacist" for a single reason; nobody in Europe can decide who's HuWhite, let alone the Balkans. It's North Vs. South, West Vs. East. Antiquity Vs. Middle Ages Vs. Modernity, with everyone picking a side. Not to mention the LARPing where there's always someone trying to claim somebody else's history. It's a continent of neighbourhly hatred that goes back millenia. If Doom was realistic, he'd be doing ethnic cleansings on minor populations in the next country over because the rival gypsy clan was mean to his own 500 years ago. Now add to that the usual Balkan hatred, and he'd be pressing the Exterminatus button very other day. Point is, silly as it is talking about it, "White Supremacism" is a very US-Based thing. Europe has Nation/Sub-Group Supremacists. Nordicists are the closest thing to "White Supremacists", but they're lost amongst a sea of other Supremacist groups. They're basically the HuWhite version of Hoteps, with their "VGH, VE VUZ VIKANG EGYPTIANZ" and all the usual stuff. Everybody in Europe LARPs, but they take it to a whole another level. Doom being Doom is too preoccupied worship himself to feel this much of an alignment with anyone on such a level. In the Balkans it's kill or be killed. No alliances, no shared struggle or any of that. At worst, Vic's more Benitto or Mosley, he's certainly no Adolf. And then even then, Hitler was just a German Supremacist with allies from all over the world. That's the thing about Europe; everyone will ally with a totally foreign invader, just for the chance to off their neighbourhing country.

Anyway, that's really the problem with Westerners writing characters rooted in specific cultures and places they have no idea about; they make them too silly to be taken seriously as anything beyond a surface-level caricature. The MI:13 issue where he gets angry at Dracula of all people for being wary of Muslims due to his experiences with Ottomans (it's not even a "goshdarn them" moment, he's literally saying the Middle East is a potential political enemy to his state, and again, that's literally Vlad Tepes) is eye-rolling to the nth level. Yes Mr. US-Writer, the Dictator living in the land where East & West meet and have clashed over literal Millenia, is really the most likely person to share your enlightened [current day] views... I won't even get to that recent book where he has a lesbian transexual "super-genius" working for him and he uses the "correct pronouns". It's as if these people never stepped a foot outside LA...

That's from the Children's Crusade. God Emperor Doom didn't have the whole tunic and had gloves on top of his gauntlets.

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It is funny though, how recently when he gets God-like powers, he fixes his face and goes for an all-white getup. In contrast to someone like Palpatine who goes all-black because he genuinely enjoys being a sadistic ****, Doom does believe that he's ultimately a good guy. Well, he did recently blow up an entire universe on a whim, but hey, he's done worse...

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Anyway, it follows suit that when he goes all God-Mode, he either fixes his face and keeps his usual colours, or goes for the white/gold colour scheme. I like it, it adds a layer to him. I liked how Ewing handled it in that Doom sees himself as a story, so all the contradicting characterizations (thank God for Doombots) are just part and parcel of the forging of a myth. I don't love all of Ewing's choices, but I liked that one.

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It was probably Harmon that wrote the Beyonce joke into DS. Didn't need that in there.
Obviously.
 
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For those of us hoping for a Classic Strange due to this statue:

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It seems we're out of luck. They revealed the Funko Pop:

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The colour scheme is completely different and he's got fingerless gloves, not to mention the lack of facial hair. I suppose it's sort of their take on his FA:

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It still looks cool, but I am disappointed. Well, the main costume looks close enough to the source for me.
 
For those of us hoping for a Classic Strange due to this statue:

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It seems we're out of luck. They revealed the Funko Pop:

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The colour scheme is completely different and he's got fingerless gloves, not to mention the lack of facial hair. I suppose it's sort of their take on his FA:

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It still looks cool, but I am disappointed. Well, the main costume looks close enough to the source for me.
Fits with a certain Superior Iron Cruise color scheme.

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Fits with a certain Superior Iron Cruise color scheme.

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Huh, yeah. I assume Strange Supreme is from the same reality as Mordo, and probably died or something, with Mordo taking his place in the Illuminati. Or it could be something totally different, dunno. But they'd look good together in their matching outfits. Then we'd just need a Reed in his classic blue & white colours, plus Doom in his 2099 armour and the gang would all be ready.
 
Huh, yeah. I assume Strange Supreme is from the same reality as Mordo, and probably died or something, with Mordo taking his place in the Illuminati. Or it could be something totally different, dunno. But they'd look good together in their matching outfits. Then we'd just need a Reed in his classic blue & white colours, plus Doom in his 2099 armour and the gang would all be ready.
I'm still wondering how Kang fits into this, if at all. Maybe this is just another part of the universe with this group trying to stop large threats to the multiverse. But isn't that what the TVA is for? Is Kang even a known threat at this point? Perhaps Kang time travels by the Quantum Realm and that is where Ant-Man runs into him. Lots of questions.
 
I'm still wondering how Kang fits into this, if at all. Maybe this is just another part of the universe with this group trying to stop large threats to the multiverse. But isn't that what the TVA is for? Is Kang even a known threat at this point? Perhaps Kang time travels by the Quantum Realm and that is where Ant-Man runs into him. Lots of questions.
He doesn't, because he's a Clown. He doesn't fit anywhere but the Circus! With some luck he'll be so badly received in Ant-Man 3 that they'll drop him. I'd rather get no Kang than have to stare at that goofy mug. *********! I legitimately hate this. I can't stop seething. Why did you remind me of him?

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Now I won't be able to sleep... I'll just think happy thoughts. I hope Clea is in it, even as just a tease for DS3.

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Get Mummy Charlize on it:

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Apparently Strange is the "Anchor" so I'm expecting more films. Oh, and here's this:

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Hair's too blonde. I don't like it. It should be red. I hope it looks better in the movie and the dolly.
 
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I hope Hot Toys can do most if not all of them. Not a good track record with villains and sidekicks. Like how NWH was Spider-Man Endgame, this certainly feels the same. How would you even top this one?

I noticed no one even acknowledged my Rick and Morty comparison. It plays out a little like the trailer and it was a parody of the Council of Reeds.
That’s because I have never watched a single R&M episode :yess:

I loved cartoons….when I was 13 lol
 
Oh, thank goodness. The Council Of Reeds was more or less a homage to the Council Of Kangs.

kang051.jpg


I've said it before, but it's honestly funny how the one character who can theoretically have tons of actors playing him, will literally have only that goofy clown doing so, because otherwise it'd be classified as black erasure. Hell man, couldn't they have at least gotten someone like Lance Reddick? Or at least not wasted Lawrence Fishbourne? It's like they're specifically messing with me with that casting...

Still, the Council Of Reeds was a great idea and it made for some really fun stories and characters. Some really great designs in there:

conselho-interdimensional-de-reeds-marvel.jpg


Reed Luthor in particular was a standout:

ff572019.jpg


They're actually back again, albeit in smaller numbers and they haven't been used much:

Council-of-Reeds.jpg


I loved Hickman's whole FF saga in general. Shield was really fun too. It was like Assassin's Creed, but actually good.

shield2014006016s-rgb-1084708.jpg


I'd buy Sorcerer Supreme Newton, Tesla and Da Vinci in a heartbeat.


Same here. With comics where the "budget" is non-existent and you can do whatever you want, these are my favourite. It's why I like FF, GL, Cosmic Marvel and the such. The scope's huge and it really works.


Heh. Doom's had some quasi-racist moments, but they've straightned him out over the years as he got more popular. Let's be honest, he's a Balkan gypsy, the Westerners writing him have literally no idea how high he'd rank on the "yikes" scale. But as a Balkan gypsy he'd never be a "White Supremacist" for a single reason; nobody in Europe can decide who's HuWhite, let alone the Balkans. It's North Vs. South, West Vs. East. Antiquity Vs. Middle Ages Vs. Modernity, with everyone picking a side. Not to mention the LARPing where there's always someone trying to claim somebody else's history. It's a continent of neighbourhly hatred that goes back millenia. If Doom was realistic, he'd be doing ethnic cleansings on minor populations in the next country over because the rival gypsy clan was mean to his own 500 years ago. Now add to that the usual Balkan hatred, and he'd be pressing the Exterminatus button very other day. Point is, silly as it is talking about it, "White Supremacism" is a very US-Based thing. Europe has Nation/Sub-Group Supremacists. Nordicists are the closest thing to "White Supremacists", but they're lost amongst a sea of other Supremacist groups. They're basically the HuWhite version of Hoteps, with their "VGH, VE VUZ VIKANG EGYPTIANZ" and all the usual stuff. Everybody in Europe LARPs, but they take it to a whole another level. Doom being Doom is too preoccupied worship himself to feel this much of an alignment with anyone on such a level. In the Balkans it's kill or be killed. No alliances, no shared struggle or any of that. At worst, Vic's more Benitto or Mosley, he's certainly no Adolf. And then even then, Hitler was just a German Supremacist with allies from all over the world. That's the thing about Europe; everyone will ally with a totally foreign invader, just for the chance to off their neighbourhing country.

Anyway, that's really the problem with Westerners writing characters rooted in specific cultures and places they have no idea about; they make them too silly to be taken seriously as anything beyond a surface-level caricature. The MI:13 issue where he gets angry at Dracula of all people for being wary of Muslims due to his experiences with Ottomans (it's not even a "goshdarn them" moment, he's literally saying the Middle East is a potential political enemy to his state, and again, that's literally Vlad Tepes) is eye-rolling to the nth level. Yes Mr. US-Writer, the Dictator living in the land where East & West meet and have clashed over literal Millenia, is really the most likely person to share your enlightened [current day] views... I won't even get to that recent book where he has a lesbian transexual "super-genius" working for him and he uses the "correct pronouns". It's as if these people never stepped a foot outside LA...


That's from the Children's Crusade. God Emperor Doom didn't have the whole tunic and had gloves on top of his gauntlets.

6nd8p38iwuf81.jpg


It is funny though, how recently when he gets God-like powers, he fixes his face and goes for an all-white getup. In contrast to someone like Palpatine who goes all-black because he genuinely enjoys being a sadistic ****, Doom does believe that he's ultimately a good guy. Well, he did recently blow up an entire universe on a whim, but hey, he's done worse...

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Anyway, it follows suit that when he goes all God-Mode, he either fixes his face and keeps his usual colours, or goes for the white/gold colour scheme. I like it, it adds a layer to him. I liked how Ewing handled it in that Doom sees himself as a story, so all the contradicting characterizations (thank God for Doombots) are just part and parcel of the forging of a myth. I don't love all of Ewing's choices, but I liked that one.

FFA15_Loki_Agent_6_Ewing_Doom.jpg



Obviously.
W…Wo…Wor….Wor….Wor….:thud:
 
So we are thinking the Illuminati are:
Balder
Prof X
Mordo
Iron Cruise
Cap Carter
Captain Rambeau
Mr. Fantastic

Then we get:
Our new outfit Strange
Supreme Strange
Defender Strange
Sinister Strange
Zombie Strange

yes:joy

That’s because I have never watched a single R&M episode :yess:

I loved cartoons….when I was 13 lol
There was elite level cartoons with Batman The Animated Series, Spider-Man TAS and X-Men TAS.
You wouldn't be worried about being nuked if he was still in charge.
 
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