**Beware SPOILERS** Obi-Wan Kenobi Series on Disney+ **Beware SPOILERS**

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How old is Fett in this lol

Not too old for Morrison to squeeze his arse into some skinny jeans! He is ready to play the part with a big smile on his face.

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Looks pretty close to Rebels, so that’s that.
Don't remember the Grand Inquisitor in Rebels having a WIDE head like Pinhead. I'm disappointed the didn't at least dub Jason Isaac's voice and get the look right.

Tho not all down on the show yet; Michele Chow is directing and Obi-Wan looks like I imagined he might look. It's not like the PT ever gave him time to breathe; like, he'd had to *kill* someone he had trained and regarded as a brother; there's the collapse of the Jedi order; so there's room for some decent emotive moments if this show doesn't *&^% it up.

And who knows this fashion-forward Inquisitor may be another scene-stealing Okoye. Also this show made use of the Volume and aesthetically wasn't offensive. So far.
 
I unapologetically defended Han, Luke and Leia in the ST but TM, Ewan and Hayden are not Han, Luke and Leia and as I have already proven with TM I will go nuclear on this show if need be and based off this teaser my finger is already twitching.
What about JEJ Vader or is even he no longer sacred due to ROTS, lol.
 
Y'all really don't like POC being cast in main roles, do you? I swear any time a movie/show has a black or asian person in it then it immediately gets **** on here for being "woke". Aliens are cool and believable but your immersion is suddenly shattered at the sight of a black person. You must have **** your pants when you first watched Empire Strikes Back.

If the actors/actresses do a good job then who gives a ****. We've seen 3 pictures of her. Whilst studios do love to check the diversity box it's also possible that the casting division know what they are doing and just pick the best person for the role. It's not like this is a previously white character being race swapped, it's a minor character that's been mentioned like once in an encyclopedia.

You're using a pretty basic logical fallacy - false dilemma. Which is an inherent problem with
"woke" in mainstream entertainment - You are either a racist and a bigot or you are approved of in a very very very very narrow category of "pure thought acceptance"

What's going on is an open egregious planned attack on legacy fanbases. All the "woke" is built into big franchises as a way to punish the core legacy audience. That they are "guilty" for thought crimes or not being pure enough for social justice and diversity just by loving the old established story narrative and characters.

Making grizzled hobbling Luke Skywalker drink space cow milk was a giant middle finger to the old fan base. But the pure design was to show how awesome Rey was ( without any shred of basic character development at all) by dragging Luke down.

Sarah Conner and Ellen Ripley actually had to go through growth as characters to face their challenges head on. They both started out as less competent, made mistakes and had to suffer some consequences. It would be different if Rey was constructed that way, but she's not. Because it's not "woke" to show the "strong female lead" as being weak and full of doubt to start. She just has to show up and be awesome just because. Just because of what? By merit or action or suffering trials and tribulations? No by gender or sexual preference or skin color.

You cannot have functional storytelling if you have a subset of characters that are "Mary Sue" invincible and have no room for any kind of progression in their development. You also can't have functional storytelling if the design is to just outright punish the legacy fanbase for what they love, because that somehow makes them complicit to decades and centuries of social/cultural conflicts and crimes and public policy that they had absolutely nothing to do with or started themselves.

Notice that it's always hijacking an existing franchise. If the truly "woke" show runners and writers want to shovel their politics and agenda at mainstream audiences, then why don't they come up wit their own original stories and characters? It doesn't happen because it's simple - They are haters and haters are too busy hating to come up with anything good themselves.

But it's not just in Star Wars, it's in sports, other movies, books, music, plastered all over stores and different kinds of products and places. It's just splattered everywhere. And people then just stop watching and stop buying merchandise and tune out and the franchise dies. And why do the "woke" hijackers care at all? It's not like they actually created something great themselves that they tanked and destroyed. It's easy to destroy someone else's legacy, not so easy to create your own.

Nearly all people out there are not racists and they are not bigots. They are like most people - just trying to get by in life and make it day to day. They got enough problems of their own. They aren't looking to inherit anyone else's problems. Which is the sheer arrogance of all this force fed "woke" in mass entertainment like Star Wars. It's saying these subset of problems are bigger than everyone else's problems. What an incredibly arrogant and narrow minded way to approach potential paying customers.

Some people are just going to want "woke" into their Stars Wars consumption. And that's their right as individual fans. But if those folks get what they want, they will be party to watching the entire franchise die.

Kathleen Kennedy played stupid games. But it was all the long term hard core Star Wars fans that ended up getting the stupid prizes. Of course they are unhappy.
 
You're using a pretty basic logical fallacy - false dilemma. Which is an inherent problem with
"woke" in mainstream entertainment - You are either a racist and a bigot or you are approved of in a very very very very narrow category of "pure thought acceptance"

What's going on is an open egregious planned attack on legacy fanbases. All the "woke" is built into big franchises as a way to punish the core legacy audience. That they are "guilty" for thought crimes or not being pure enough for social justice and diversity just by loving the old established story narrative and characters.

Making grizzled hobbling Luke Skywalker drink space cow milk was a giant middle finger to the old fan base. But the pure design was to show how awesome Rey was ( without any shred of basic character development at all) by dragging Luke down.

Sarah Conner and Ellen Ripley actually had to go through growth as characters to face their challenges head on. They both started out as less competent, made mistakes and had to suffer some consequences. It would be different if Rey was constructed that way, but she's not. Because it's not "woke" to show the "strong female lead" as being weak and full of doubt to start. She just has to show up and be awesome just because. Just because of what? By merit or action or suffering trials and tribulations? No by gender or sexual preference or skin color.

You cannot have functional storytelling if you have a subset of characters that are "Mary Sue" invincible and have no room for any kind of progression in their development. You also can't have functional storytelling if the design is to just outright punish the legacy fanbase for what they love, because that somehow makes them complicit to decades and centuries of social/cultural conflicts and crimes and public policy that they had absolutely nothing to do with or started themselves.

Notice that it's always hijacking an existing franchise. If the truly "woke" show runners and writers want to shovel their politics and agenda at mainstream audiences, then why don't they come up wit their own original stories and characters? It doesn't happen because it's simple - They are haters and haters are too busy hating to come up with anything good themselves.

But it's not just in Star Wars, it's in sports, other movies, books, music, plastered all over stores and different kinds of products and places. It's just splattered everywhere. And people then just stop watching and stop buying merchandise and tune out and the franchise dies. And why do the "woke" hijackers care at all? It's not like they actually created something great themselves that they tanked and destroyed. It's easy to destroy someone else's legacy, not so easy to create your own.

Nearly all people out there are not racists and they are not bigots. They are like most people - just trying to get by in life and make it day to day. They got enough problems of their own. They aren't looking to inherit anyone else's problems. Which is the sheer arrogance of all this force fed "woke" in mass entertainment like Star Wars. It's saying these subset of problems are bigger than everyone else's problems. What an incredibly arrogant and narrow minded way to approach potential paying customers.

Some people are just going to want "woke" into their Stars Wars consumption. And that's their right as individual fans. But if those folks get what they want, they will be party to watching the entire franchise die.

Kathleen Kennedy played stupid games. But it was all the long term hard core Star Wars fans that ended up getting the stupid prizes. Of course they are unhappy.
Perhaps, tho, it should be viewed less as an attack vs. something far harder to qualify, and that's an unfortunate meeting of 2 separate forces.

I'd be among last in line to say "cast for diversity" - it'd be beyond ludicrous, say, to make the Hobbit dwarves female (tho have no doubt some a-hole has thought about it). But there was nothing wrong with the CONCEPT of a Rey - heck, everyone seems to like Jyn Erso.

But the desire for more diverse casts IMO has met with - economics. Marvel and Disney being as guilty as anyone. Instead of hiring skilled writers who ask themselves tough questions as they build a story (the Russos locking themselves in a room with character cards, for example) - or even writers who are minimally immersed in the lore, we have these "team" writers - they're cheaper; they may or may not have any background or real love for the characters they are writing about; and often just make &^%$ up, that long-term fans know inherently that would never happen with a given character. The Fury eye thing being the kind of writing that shows up; more or less vomiting on long term fans (note that Fury is now black and can't imagine Nick Fury not being SLJ any more than I can imagine Ripley as a man, which the character originally was supposed to be.)

Look at what's happening with the Amazon series right now - novice writers recommended by J. Abrams, of all people.:banghead

As for Obi-Wan, we'll see what writer Joby Harold can do. He's basically a producer, not a writer.

Of course the folks banging the diversity drum don't come up with original stuff - not often, anyway. Good writing is hard work, and more experienced writers cost more. And unfortunately a lot of Twitter and Y-tubers just need to feed on whatever *&^% is served up and move on to the next "new" thing. So I don't know that it's an attack, so much as studios covering themselves - for now - by riding the diversity train and hoping everyone overlooks the *&^% writing and lame stories churned out. But at least they are inoffensively DIVERSE.:pfft:

But hilariously with *&^% writing and directing we get stuff like Finn - everything was in place for a great character arc - and here's the DIVERSE original character leading man getting sidelined. They couldn't even get that right.:pfft:
 
Perhaps, tho, it should be viewed less as an attack vs. something far harder to qualify, and that's an unfortunate meeting of 2 separate forces. [...snip...]

So I don't know that it's an attack, so much as studios covering themselves - for now - by riding the diversity train and hoping everyone overlooks the *&^% writing and lame stories churned out. But at least they are inoffensively DIVERSE.:pfft:
I've been saying as much in my sporadic screeds and rants since around the time the ST concluded.

Bad cultural moment + money + mob mentality = trash content.

There's an inertia here that isn't merely the result of Emperor Palpathleen.
 
Yeah I can't think of a single instance where well written diversity was chastised. I even turn a blind eye to how ridiculously out of place the disheveled non-white Bodhi Rook was as an OT Imperial due to how well his character was written and portrayed.

It's the diversity as a singular end in and of itself that pisses people off.
 
It slightly amuses me that the Kenobi show about his years between episode 3 and 4 when he previously was thought to have looked over Luke and never left Tattooine is going on this big adventure into the galaxy whereas Boba, known for adventuring and travelling through galaxy bounty hunting spent his whole show on Tattooine.
 
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