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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUR-oHRRMc"]YouTube - A message from Barney Ross of the Expendables to the Navy SEALs who killed Osama Bin Laden[/ame]
 
Oh, I'm not saying he didn't have it coming for him... in no way I sympathize with him,
but it's weird how people believe somehow this is a "victory" is what baffles me... just sayin' :peace

This is what we in the business call an "information operations victory", or IO victory for short.

Osama bin Laden is a symbol. Given the nature of his kind of operations, terrorists, even those "officially" under the al-Qaeda franchise, are only very loosely affiliated with him. He's more of a figurehead than anything else, especially since he's gone into hiding and AQ's actual operational capability has been in question for some time now.

What this does is, in effect, pump up the good guys and serve as one big downer for the bad guys. Sure, there will still be terrorists and insurgents - but don't think this news won't affect them, or even more importantly, those impressionable youth who could potentially become them. Don't think this doesn't affect people like Mullah Omar, also hiding out in Pakistan, undoubtedly thinking "if they can get Osama..."

This is STILL a war for the "hearts and minds", so yes, this is a BIG victory for all of us who are participating in it. Does it mean the war is over? No - there's still a lot of cleaning up to do. But this is the one man - more than any other - who was responsible for starting it. Don't underestimate the significance of his death.
 
How about all the Mullahs are next? All of them need to be rid off. :lecture

No, only the hard-liners.

Other than my personal belief that all religion is basically hogwash, I have no problem with religious leaders who follow a "live and let live" approach.
 
I consider this a victory like knocking Tom Brady out of the game and having him be replaced by Jamarcus Russell. Yes they will have some good players but they are in no way the same threat as before. Bin Laden was HUGE to Al-Quida in terms of bringing people in and motivating them.
 
How is dinos clip different from any of the team america clips or naked gun clips etc

maybe cause he's not american that u have read more into it than was intended...i read it as a light hearted jovial clip
 
Am I the only one who finds this borderline disrespectful? :dunno :lol

Well if I had used the Obama Hot Toys figure I guess I would have crossed the line :lol.

I love Americans, I have an Aunt and 6 American Cousins, plus an EX from the States. And I still have fond memories of her along with the bad ones :naughty
 
All I see is a bunch a propaganda and your ALL falling for it!

Teemu, I like talking to you when it comes to MOTUC, so don't take this the wrong way, but...

:slap

You literally have NO idea what you're talking about.

I can guarantee, all you've seen is exactly what we've seen regarding this issue - the news sources, and Obama's speech.

So what are you exactly basing this opinion of yours on?

This would never have been released to the media without evidence to back it up and available to objective, third-party observers to scrutinize and confirm - the political ramifications of having a "faked" death would be enormous.
 
No, only the hard-liners.

Other than my personal belief that all religion is basically hogwash, I have no problem with religious leaders who follow a "live and let live" approach.

Maybe, but from my personal experience, a lot of them are too twisted and dangerous to be left alone. Something certainly needs to be done to stop their extremist views and public rants, especially in places like Pakistan where the Mullahs have become too powerful and influential. :slap
 
How is dinos clip different from any of the team america clips or naked gun clips etc

maybe cause he's not american that u have read more into it than was intended...i read it as a light hearted jovial clip

All I ask is that he give me his Barney Ross. I need one.
 
How is dinos clip different from any of the team america clips or naked gun clips etc

maybe cause he's not american that u have read more into it than was intended...i read it as a light hearted jovial clip

I'd laugh it off but yea say that to a few GI's and I'm sure it won't be the same.
 
You don't put this out there unless you have NO DOUBT you've killed THE Osama Bin Laden. Because if he releases another mix tape or whatever he does, the embarrasement for this administration would be irreparable.

Although I don't believe they've buried him at sea. His body will be studied extensively.
 
I'd laugh it off but yea say that to a few GI's and I'm sure it won't be the same.


Maybe im missing it but whats so bad about it...all i see is someone doing a sly impersonation and thanking america for riding the world of bin laden
 
Teemu, I like talking to you when it comes to MOTUC, so don't take this the wrong way, but...

:slap

You literally have NO idea what you're talking about.

I can guarantee, all you've seen is exactly what we've seen regarding this issue - the news sources, and Obama's speech.

So what are you exactly basing this opinion of yours on?

This would never have been released to the media without evidence to back it up and available to objective, third-party observers to scrutinize and confirm - the political ramifications of having a "faked" death would be enormous.

well, he thought he died a long time ago.:lol

the "Boogeyman" Bin Laden has been dead a long time ago!
 
Maybe im missing it but whats so bad about it...all i see is someone doing a sly impersonation and thanking america for riding the world of bin laden


Thanks Karma, that is all I was doing, I was not making fun of GI's my Great Uncle fought in Vietnam so I meant no disrespect to US forces.

I am glad you are cool about it Ski
 
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