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Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

jlcmsu said:
Would you rather the armor break during shipping though?

I would expect a properly packaged item. Sideshow has the technology and has shipped polystone with way more detail than Boba.
 
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Very disappointed at this. I'm no genious, but I'm guessing plastic is considerably cheaper than polystone. If we are not getting the same thing that they promised, and we paid for, shouldn't SS do something about the price?

Like Rory said, this sets a very sad precedence. I don't expect this to happen with every PF, but why wait until now to tell us?

I'm also assuming that all Clones and Troopers will now be made of plastic, which is equally disappointing.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Darth Loki said:
I'm also assuming that all Clones and Troopers will now be made of plastic, which is equally disappointing.


And that was my first thought. If they HAVE to do it for the reasons listed then I guess I'll believe them, BUT don't charge us like you're still using pollystone. Plastic is cheaper and the price should be too.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Darth Loki said:
Very disappointed at this. I'm no genious, but I'm guessing plastic is considerably cheaper than polystone. If we are not getting the same thing that they promised, and we paid for, shouldn't SS do something about the price?

Like Rory said, this sets a very sad precedence. I don't expect this to happen with every PF, but why wait until now to tell us?

I'm also assuming that all Clones and Troopers will now be made of plastic, which is equally disappointing.
Very well said, and I couldn't agree more. Think about the future folks. Do you really want all your future armored characters to be completely made out of plastic? Why did they not opt for a different material like aluminum for the armor? Then maybe the body wouldn't of had to be made out of plastic!

Plastic, in my opinion, is unacceptable for the high price tag.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

kodiak8658 said:
A PF Statue no matter what the reasoning should be made of the best materials. Plastic since first conceived has always been a less expensive alternative, except in the case of Boba Fett's price. Please explain how Sideshow can justify the cost as if it were a PF Lurtz made of leather, polystone and metal? Remember, your answer will help us determine who is in reality displaying a rant. :emperor

Kodiak...don't try to call me out!

Lurtz's armor was clearly much larger and thicker than the intricate armor pieces that had to directly attach to clothing on Boba Fett. It clearly says in the production blog that small polystone armor pieces would not hold their shape in the manufacturing process and probably wouldn't attach to clothing very easily. There are no exposed "skin" area's on Boba so using polystone on Boba was irrelevent anyway. I would never imagine Sideshow using plastic on an exposed "body part".

Why is it also assumed plastic is "cheap" or "cheaper" than polystone. There are very expensive plastics, I would not be surprised if the ABS plastic used on Fett was of equal value to polystone.
 
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I am so glad that Sideshow has a fee free cancellation policy because if they had announced this decision so late in the game without one I am sure I wouldn't have been the only person upset.

And not to get off topic, but the ES is pretty killer too. :monkey3
 
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First the GG Obi debacle and now this. Thank god I got into the Marvel line again. The only line where it's been home run after home run for SS.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Natrix said:
Anyone else disappointed in the use of plastic instead of polystone?

I can understand the body armor issues but now it looks kind of cheap. At least the helmet should have been made from polystone. It seems wrong to call it a "Premium Format" when corners are cut and it won't be made of the highest quality materials but still paying a premium price.

I agree.

If I feel it's not worth the price, I'm sending it back. The cost savings should have been passed on their customers.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

kodiak8658 said:
I would expect a properly packaged item. Sideshow has the technology and has shipped polystone with way more detail than Boba.

They've shipped things yes that had a lot of detail in the poly but most of those where thicker pieces or attached better to the figure better. It says in the blog the pieces where very thin. Which as I said in an earlier post makes sense for the change. One they could break during shipping because we all know how nice UPS or Fed-Ex workers are to ALL our packages. Breakage rates on these thing polystone pieces could be very high and as they said despite the pieces on Vader being thicker he still had broken spots. They did the helm in plastic as well and I don't recall anyone being upset with that. Two being dealing with the manufacturing of the pieces and them staying the size and shape they wanted.

As far as the price of these things it's more than just the polystone that causes the price to be where it's at. The R&D, details, materials (and yes some plastics cost a lot), etc. It's not as simple a thing as some of you are wanting to make it.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

DetroitSportsFan said:
I agree.

If I feel it's not worth the price, I'm sending it back. The cost savings should have been passed on their customers.
I am willing to do the same thing. As everyone can tell I am a little upset, so hopefully the in-hand product will feel like a quality piece and I can stop b!tching.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

jlcmsu said:
They've shipped things yes that had a lot of detail in the poly but most of those where thicker pieces or attached better to the figure better. It says in the blog the pieces where very thin. Which as I said in an earlier post makes sense for the change. One they could break during shipping because we all know how nice UPS or Fed-Ex workers are to ALL our packages. Breakage rates on these thing polystone pieces could be very high and as they said despite the pieces on Vader being thicker he still had broken spots. They did the helm in plastic as well and I don't recall anyone being upset with that. Two being dealing with the manufacturing of the pieces and them staying the size and shape they wanted.

As far as the price of these things it's more than just the polystone that causes the price to be where it's at. The R&D, details, materials (and yes some plastics cost a lot), etc. It's not as simple a thing as some of you are wanting to make it.

Thanks jlcmsu...glad to see someone else can see that's it's not as simple as "it's plastic....I want money back" or "it's plastic...it's cheap and not as good as polystone".
 
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You know, when I first read why SS made the decision to go with ABS plastic in the blog, I thought it was just the helmet and armor. Now, after reading that it includes the body too, I agree w/ everyone who says that the price should be lowered. A "lighter" product will "save us a little on shipping" and it should save us a little on the cost of the item too. I could care less if we do not see any exposed skin. Vader is polystone, and, I don't know about anyone else, but I don't see any exposed skin on that statue.

Other than that issue, which IS a big deal IMO, the piece looks great. Still, SS needed to make this info known a long time ago. Funny that they are all of a sudden nowhere to be found now. SS needs to get in here and give us the real reason for this bone head decision!
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

jlcmsu said:
They've shipped things yes that had a lot of detail in the poly but most of those where thicker pieces or attached better to the figure better. It says in the blog the pieces where very thin. Which as I said in an earlier post makes sense for the change. One they could break during shipping because we all know how nice UPS or Fed-Ex workers are to ALL our packages. Breakage rates on these thing polystone pieces could be very high and as they said despite the pieces on Vader being thicker he still had broken spots. They did the helm in plastic as well and I don't recall anyone being upset with that. Two being dealing with the manufacturing of the pieces and them staying the size and shape they wanted.

As far as the price of these things it's more than just the polystone that causes the price to be where it's at. The R&D, details, materials (and yes some plastics cost a lot), etc. It's not as simple a thing as some of you are wanting to make it.
Your points are valid and noted. However, I know there is a part of you that is at least a little disappointed with this decision. Plastic is synonymous with cheap even if the kind used for Fett is not.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Darth Loki said:
First the GG Obi debacle and now this. Thank god I got into the Marvel line again. The only line where it's been home run after home run for SS.

You're equating this to the Obi-Wan Piece from GG? :rotfl You can't seriously being trying to compare a change that is obvious and borders on absolute bull to something like this. This piece looks as nice as it did as a proto. There is no change that anyone could tell by just looking at it. How is this not a home run piece?

DetroitSportsFan said:
The cost savings should have been passed on their customers.

How do you know there was any cost savings? Show me the numbers that say this plastic was cheaper than poly. Not to mention maybe the added cost of trying to get a material that would continue to look as good as this made the piece cost more for SS to produce.
 
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I'm actually glad this discussion is happening because it will certainly help manage expectations when a Stormtrooper is announced and it's made completely out of plastic armor.
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Mini-Rock said:
You know, when I first read why SS made the decision to go with ABS plastic in the blog, I thought it was just the helmet and armor. Now, after reading that it includes the body too, I agree w/ everyone who says that the price should be lowered. A "lighter" product will "save us a little on shipping" and it should save us a little on the cost of the item too. I could care less if we do not see any exposed skin. Vader is polystone, and, I don't know about anyone else, but I don't see any exposed skin on that statue.

Other than that issue, which IS a big deal IMO, the piece looks great. Still, SS needed to make this info known a long time ago. Funny that they are all of a sudden nowhere to be found now. SS needs to get in here and give us the real reason for this bone head decision!

"bone head decision"

Some of you guys have no class!
 
Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Kookie said:
"bone head decision"

Some of you guys have no class!
:rotfl :rotfl
It's ok Kookie, let it go.

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Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Rather than sound like a broken record and keep repeating myself, I will try to refrain from being so overtly negative about the decision to make Fett all plastic. I still don't like it but then again if I don't like the final product I can just return it. If we get an inferior product, then I hope people will vote with their dollars and not with their obsession for all things Star Wars. Lucas is already rich, no need to keep filling the devil's pockets for something sub-par.

What it all boils down to, is that I hope people will know where and when to draw the line before things start spiraling down. Quality is the name of the game.
 
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