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[Kookie]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Rather than sound like a broken record and keep repeating myself, I will try to refrain from being so overtly negative about the decision to make Fett all plastic. I still don't like it but then again if I don't like the final product I can just return it. If we get an inferior product, then I hope people will vote with their dollars and not with their obsession for all things Star Wars. Lucas is already rich, no need to keep filling the devil's pockets for something sub-par.

What it all boils down to, is that I hope people will know where and when to draw the line before things start spiraling down. Quality is the name of the game.

I will agree with that...I think once we have the product in hand we can determine if the quality warrants the price.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Kodiak...don't try to call me out!

Call you out? Sorry buddy, I am married and don't swing that way. Thanks for thinking of me that way though. With my boyish good looks, I get hit on alot.

BBBBBWWWWWWAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

 

[Kookie]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Kodiak...don't try to call me out!

Call you out? Sorry buddy, I am married and don't swing that way. Thanks for thinking of me that way though. With my boyish good looks, I get hit on alot.

BBBBBWWWWWWAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

You clearly have no idea what that phrase means!

 

[Natrix]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I guess why I was so outspoken is because Sideshow waited until the last minute before it starts shipping to let everyone know about the switch to plastic. It seems like a Bait and Switch swindle scheme. I was expecting the same high quality polystone statue as the other PF's when I ordered Fett, not a "high quality ABS plastic" statue when it is ready to ship.

BTW...ABS plastic didn't help correct the shape and size of the helmet!

 

[KitFisto]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

"bone head decision"

Some of you guys have no class!

Is it classy to tell someone else they have no class?

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

They've shipped things yes that had a lot of detail in the poly but most of those where thicker pieces or attached better to the figure better. It says in the blog the pieces where very thin. Which as I said in an earlier post makes sense for the change. One they could break during shipping because we all know how nice UPS or Fed-Ex workers are to ALL our packages. Breakage rates on these thing polystone pieces could be very high and as they said despite the pieces on Vader being thicker he still had broken spots. They did the helm in plastic as well and I don't recall anyone being upset with that. Two being dealing with the manufacturing of the pieces and them staying the size and shape they wanted.

As far as the price of these things it's more than just the polystone that causes the price to be where it's at. The R&D, details, materials (and yes some plastics cost a lot), etc. It's not as simple a thing as some of you are wanting to make it.

Plastic has higher grades and lower grades, but I can safely say that no plastic grade is more expensive to mass produce than polystone or leather. While acceptable to replace some pieces with plastic for various reasons, the overall price of an all plastic figure should be reflected in a lower cost. I am still puzzled why this piece isn't at least $100 less.

 

[KitFisto]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I am still puzzled why this piece isn't at least $100 less.

Well, lets all be honest. We KNOW why. Because it would cut down SS's profits and as customer friendly as SS is they are still a business in it to make money.

 

[El Roranous]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I guess why I was so outspoken is because Sideshow waited until the last minute before it starts shipping to let everyone know about the switch to plastic. It seems like a Bait and Switch swindle scheme. I was expecting the same high quality polystone statue as the other PF's when I ordered Fett, not a "high quality ABS plastic" statue when it is ready to ship.

BTW...ABS plastic didn't help correct the shape and size of the helmet!

Thankfully there is a no penalty cancellation policy

So the bait and switch doesn't bother me so much but it is a let-down.

 

[Kookie]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Is it classy to tell someone else they have no class?

Yeah it is...you have a problem with that?

 

[KitFisto]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Yeah it is...you have a problem with that?

What if I do? Are you going to go all internet tough guy on me?

 

[The Josh]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Thanks jlcmsu...glad to see someone else can see that's it's not as simple as "it's plastic....I want money back" or "it's plastic...it's cheap and not as good as polystone".

I'm just thinking about the reasons why they did what they did both said and implied. It's amazing how people sometimes just freak out.

You know, when I first read why SS made the decision to go with ABS plastic in the blog, I thought it was just the helmet and armor. Now, after reading that it includes the body too, I agree w/ everyone who says that the price should be lowered. A "lighter" product will "save us a little on shipping" and it should save us a little on the cost of the item too. I could care less if we do not see any exposed skin. Vader is polystone, and, I don't know about anyone else, but I don't see any exposed skin on that statue.

How do you know the piece was cheaper? Again, I'll make that point. Please proove to me that it was even with the body because fo all we know the ABS Plastic is as exspensive as poly. Which by the way I believe is a form of platic.

Here's some information on polystone.

Polystone is a compound made up largely of polyurethane resin mixed with powdered stone additives that give it added weight and the porcelain or "stone-like" feel that resulted in the materials name itself. Polystone is durable and highly effective at maintaining a sharp paint finish. Unlike porcelain which is fired in an oven, Polystone is a cold-cast material in which no heat is used in the manufacturing process, resulting in much greater variations of paint finish.

polyurethane
a thermoplastic polymer containing the group NHCOO: used for padding and insulation in furniture, clothing, and packaging, and in the manufacture of resins for adhesives, elastomers, and fillers.

ABS Plastics Article which explains that ABS isn't some cheap plastic.

Funny that they are all of a sudden nowhere to be found now. SS needs to get in here and give us the real reason for this bone head decision!

Ya know for someone who based on what I've read sounds like they shouldn't be tossing stones at glass houses this isn't a bright statement. You might wanna take a look in the mirror before making such a bone headed statement.

Your points are valid and noted. However, I know there is a part of you that is at least a little disappointed with this decision. Plastic is synonymous with cheap even if the kind used for Fett is not.

I was suprised at the change at first but after reading why. It made sense to me (for anyone that wants to think it no not because it's SS doing it) because they're trying to make a High End product that looks nice, worth the money, and makes it intact to the buyers. Plastic may be but to jump to assumptions like that are the type of things that cause issues in life.

I'm actually glad this discussion is happening because it will certainly help manage expectations when a Stormtrooper is announced and it's made completely out of plastic armor.

Right. If done correctly the armor done is plastic looks every bit as nice as polystone. Just look at Vader for that matter.

 

[Darth Loki]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I can understand the armor issues, but I still don't know why they would decide to make the body out of plastic. Vader isn't made of plasic, GG isn't made out of plastic, why would they go with a plastic Boba?

You have to understand that plastic has a stigma about it. It may look great, but it won't be polystone like all the other PF's SS has done.


And no Josh, I wasn't directly comparing this to GG's Obi. Only stating the fact that this is another case of a highly anticipated piece that had a serious over-haul at the last minute. But it's nice to see you're still suckling at SS's teet like an obediant lap dog.

 

[Kookie]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

What if I do? Are you going to go all internet tough guy on me?

Don't tell me you weren't trying to be the "internet tough guy" by trying to confront me on a quote that didn't concern you!

 

[KitFisto]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Don't tell me you weren't trying to be the "internet tough guy" by trying to confront me on a quote that didn't concern you!

LOL!!! Are you serious? I don't play internet tough guy. I was pointing out that it makes no sense to tell another poster they have no class because they have an opinion that differs from yours. His comment was not directed at you and had zero to do with any other poster yet the comment needed to be directed at him that he had "no class"?

It's ok for you to "confront" someone, but not for you to be confronted? It's ok for you to make statements about people when their statements don't concern YOU, but not for others to do the same?

Nice double standard you have there.

 

[The Josh]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Plastic has higher grades and lower grades, but I can safely say that no plastic grade is more expensive to mass produce than polystone or leather. While acceptable to replace some pieces with plastic for various reasons, the overall price of an all plastic figure should be reflected in a lower cost. I am still puzzled why this piece isn't at least $100 less.

I think you need to read what exactly polystone is because it's freaking a PLASTIC resin mixed with a stone additive. So you might want to have some info to back that up for try at least searching around before you go shooting from the hip.

 

[Natrix]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

And no Josh, I wasn't directly comparing this to GG's Obi. Only stating the fact that this is another case of a highly anticipated piece that had a serious over-haul at the last minute. But it's nice to see you're still suckling at SS's teet like an obediant lap dog.

 

[KitFisto]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

And no Josh, I wasn't directly comparing this to GG's Obi. Only stating the fact that this is another case of a highly anticipated piece that had a serious over-haul at the last minute. But it's nice to see you're still suckling at SS's teet like an obediant lap dog.

X 1,000, sorry, that was just funny.

 

[The Josh]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

You have to understand that plastic has a stigma about it. It may look great, but it won't be polystone like all the other PF's SS has done.

A lot of things have a stigma that isn't justified be it materials or people. Sometimes people need to not worry about those Stigmas.

And no Josh, I wasn't directly comparing this to GG's Obi. Only stating the fact that this is another case of a highly anticipated piece that had a serious over-haul at the last minute. But it's nice to see you're still suckling at SS's teet like an obediant lap dog.

The differences between the two isn't even cimparable. The Obi-Wan piece looks NOTHING like what was sold. Boba Fett does look just like before but the materials used are different so this piece could get to everyone without it being broke.

Lap Dog? I'm just simply pointing out to people like you who are unable to not act like a Chicken Little running around screaming the sky is falling. Why things where done based on the information given and the differences in the items used. If that's being a lap dog then color me that I call is using my brain something I see you're unable to do.

 

[The Josh]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

X 1,000, sorry, that was just funny.

I'm gonna get me a shirt to wear at SDCC that says Sideshow Lap Dog.

 

[KitFisto]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

A lot of things have a stigma that isn't justified be it materials or people. Sometimes people need to not worry about those Stigmas.



The differences between the two isn't even cimparable. The Obi-Wan piece looks NOTHING like what was sold. Boba Fett does just the materials used are different so this piece could get to everyone without it being broke.

Lap Dog? I'm just simply pointing out to people like you who are unable to not act like a Chicken Little running around screaming the sky is falling. Why things where done based on the information given and the differences in the items used. If that's being a lap dog then color me that I call is using my brain something I see you're unable to do.

Come on Josh. I think you know Loki is usually one to say "wait till it's in hand" before bashing it. In this case many are upset because this issue of plastic was not brought out until AFTER the item sold out and the 25 day notice came out. Sure, you can still cancel and order, but I am sure SS knew about this before a few days ago. It should have been made public from the beginning so people knew what they were ordering.

Not to mention not everyone posts here or on any board for that matter. Nor does everyone go back to the SS site to check every little update. They order and wait. What about those who won't know they got plastic until it shows up? Talk about disappointment.