Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier (SPOILERS)

[Darth Snoopy]

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Captain America: The Winter Soldier Poster. The trailer will be online in two days on October 24 (Thu).

I'm loving this poster!

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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I'm looking forward to the new film, but TFA suit still reigns supreme.

 

[karamazov80]

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Outdated ideals. Avengers showed how antiquated Cap is. Hopefully he does some serious catching-up in the sequel.

You seem to be confounding the ideals the country is based on with the naivete of someone who hasn't developed cynicism toward the system in a post-Watergate world. They are different things. In the comic, Cap always holds the ideals of the country as his philosophical motivation. But at the same time, he learns to treat the system with a level of skepticism, because of the way that those in power tend to become corrupted, and in the ways that the public may support un-American behavior in the pursuit of security (Civil War) or preservation of some outdated social order (social upheaval in the '70s).

In fact, he feels even more of an obligation to pursue and reflect the ideals of the country in a time when so many seem to have forgotten what they are, and why they are important.

 

[jye4ever]

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Screw all that political crap, more importantly is he standing in Coulsan's plane!?

 

[karamazov80]

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Cap really isn't political, though. I think folks only holding a superficial understanding of him might think he's some right wing symbol, but he ain't that by a long shot.

 

[Kamandi]

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Screw all that political crap, more importantly is he standing in Coulsan's plane!?

He's not. The quinjets had a ramp off the back too. "The Bus" ramp is wide enough to hold two cars.

 

[jye4ever]

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Cap really isn't political, though. I think folks only holding a superficial understanding of him might think he's some right wing symbol, but he ain't that by a long shot.

Have him hang out with Frank Castle, he'll be shown the correct path.

 

[Project_A]

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[jye4ever]

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Oh hells yeah.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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It's a blue TDK suit with a pretty star on it.

..& SLJ is seriously starting to look like Isaac Hayes!

 

[Glennfett]

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Should be easy for Ht to make, lol.
I seen the trailer 2 weeks back.it does look pretty cool.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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Screw all that political crap, more importantly is he standing in Coulsan's plane!?

I want to know if Cap going to borrow "Lola"?

 

[Vivek]

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Captain America's past comes to the present in sequel

Another still from USA Today.

 

[thenammagazine]

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You seem to be confounding the ideals the country is based on with the naivete of someone who hasn't developed cynicism toward the system in a post-Watergate world. They are different things. In the comic, Cap always holds the ideals of the country as his philosophical motivation. But at the same time, he learns to treat the system with a level of skepticism, because of the way that those in power tend to become corrupted, and in the ways that the public may support un-American behavior in the pursuit of security (Civil War) or preservation of some outdated social order (social upheaval in the '70s).

In fact, he feels even more of an obligation to pursue and reflect the ideals of the country in a time when so many seem to have forgotten what they are, and why they are important.

Nope. Avengers showed how naive Cap was as to what the country he held so high was capable of. Remember, he was actually pissed at Stark for accusing SHIELD of developing HYDRA tech. Only when he confronts Banner, does he rethink his position. The faceoff between him and Stark showcased this for the lowbrow, as Stark, the modern US ideal of Captain America who personifies the modern US vs. Rodgers, the antiquated, naive Captain America who's standing for ideals that are non-existent and have been for decades in the US.

Did you fall asleep during Avengers?

 

[Vivek]

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=998475814431
17 seconds teaser.

 

[Biojex]

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=998475814431
17 seconds teaser.

can't wait!!

 

[jye4ever]

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17 seconds, can't they give me something longer than my sex life.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

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[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

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ba dum tish


Loving the new suit.

 

[karamazov80]

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Nope. Avengers showed how naive Cap was as to what the country he held so high was capable of. Remember, he was actually pissed at Stark for accusing SHIELD of developing HYDRA tech. Only when he confronts Banner, does he rethink his position. The faceoff between him and Stark showcased this for the lowbrow, as Stark, the modern US ideal of Captain America who personifies the modern US vs. Rodgers, the antiquated, naive Captain America who's standing for ideals that are non-existent and have been for decades in the US.

Did you fall asleep during Avengers?

Like I said, in the comics, Cap has to adjust to a system that he has to distrust moreso than he believed was the case back in the '40s. But his ideals remain intact. You can have ideals about the country (liberty, justice, inalienable rights, protection from exploitation and hysteria, etc.), while treating the system entrusted with protecting them with heavy skepticism. In that sense, what you see in Avengers, and may very likely see in the new film regarding SHIELD and the government doing shady things are allowed to happen. Cap will learn from them. But he keeps his values intact. His value =/= trust in government. This is a very clear subtext in the comics, from the '70s until the more modern comics with Civil War and the aftermath of it. If he lost his values and ideals, then as jye suggests, he wouldn't be Cap anymore. He might not become the Punisher, but he may be more like Iron Man in the modern comics, or US Agent, or various other characters that may lose sight of what Cap sees as the real U.S. values that he represents and is tasked with protecting. Cap is not a sheep, following orders without question. He sees it as his responsibility to do what he feels is right, in order to secure and reinforce the U.S.'s fundamental ideals. You might miss this if you never read or didn't understand the comics though, so I'll give you a pass this time.