Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier (SPOILERS)

[batfan08]

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**** you, HT. You should be soliciting those Arkham figures, not promoting the new Cap trailer.

 

[KingB]

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I felt that Cap 1 did a good job of portraying Cap... With that being said, I found it akin to what they were parodying with the one-man show bit; it established Cap the same way reading one of his 1940's propaganda comics would have. It showed you Cap the way he was meant to be seen for the time period that he was in.

I have a feeling that things will come full circle with this one; fully developing into the "man out of time" Cap that we all know so well.

I will come to love the first even more than I do now if it were a plan all along to develop him further in this film. As had been stated previously, the "Leader" was kinda overshadowed and out thought in Avengers. He needs this movie and needs more respect.

 

[Glennfett]

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This had different footage to the trailer I seen a few weeks back.looks amazing!!!

 

[jrice73]

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After the letdown I felt from Iron Man 3 which had some damn fine trailers, I am hopefully optimistic that The Winter Soldier along with Thor: Dark World and Guardians of the Galaxy will get these Marvel films back on track. Agents of SHIELD has definitely got me watching and given me renewed confidence and its interesting that one of the theme's playing out in that series is that SHIELD is definitely NOT all that it is cracked up to be (just like in the comics) no matter how Coulson tries to spin it (which from the last episode he may beginning to have his own serious doubts about who he is working for). Cap's line on looking at all the SHIELD tech in what I presume is the Triskelion's massive hangar/bunker system, "This isn't freedom. This is fear." really lines up well with where the Agents of SHIELD series is going in terms of deconstructing this massive organization. I really like the juxtaposition and hope it keeps up in the series so it ties in well with the new Cap film and the films to come. As a fan of Brubaker's run on Cap, what this trailer has done is showed me that Marvel is really attempting to capture the essence of what made his run so special with the same feel, tone, and seriousness of it put into that two minute preview.

 

[Spartan Rex]

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nah, I think they nailed it (from what the trailer is depicting)



might have to get that Cap Poster, I like it better than

I was kidding.

Who would've thought a pair of comedy directors could potentially deliver the most satisfying Cap 'murica movie or the best non group
Marvel installment thus far?
It's still early yet on a final decision but it may have the tone and tempo that this character in particular really needs.
Excited for this and Evans didn't bug me as much.
The Barbershop quartet line was good but you can't
have someone constantly doing schtick around Cap or
coming from him when he needs to be taken as seriously as possible.
He basically wears the flag as a costume and on his shield so he needs every bit of gravitas he can get.
That elevator scene looks bad azz and Cap will get his John McClane moment ala DH3 thankfully.
Hmmm... Maybe get McTiernan to direct a Cap movie if he's outta jail.

The rest of the sequels posters will need more sparks though.

 

[EXOTICLEX]

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OMG at that trailer.....completely kicks Iron MAN 3 tail. I can't wait for this one. I have no idea where they are going with this movie but I LIKE it.

 

[chewblacca]

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Trailer looks nice! Loved the Die Hard moment in the elevator! Can't wait to see more Falcon! Looks like they are really developing the character.

 

[Khev]

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Trailer looks nice! Loved the Die Hard moment in the elevator!

One of the best moments in Die Hard with a Vengeance and more than welcome in the new Cap movie! This isn't the first movie to pay homage to that great McClane moment though. Remember "drop your weapons, roger roger, ahhhhhh!" at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith?

 

[Jaycepticon]

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I love his shield stomp/catch

 

[Khev]

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I love his shield stomp/catch

A John McClane and Marty McFly tribute in one scene!

 

[Biojex]

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A John McClane and Marty McFly tribute in one scene!

Is his shield made by mattel?

 

[Mad Old Lu]

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Eh.

I did like the McClane Die Hard elevator part.

But the rest of it doesn't instill too much confidence. I love the character and loved the comics when I was a kid, so I was disappointed that the first one left me so cold. It sounded good on paper, but it didn't make me feel anything for the characters like, say, Iron Man or even Norton's Hulk did.

After we left the theater, my wife was not impressed with the first Cap movie, either. She's not a big comic fan or anything, so she didn't have any of those biases, and her big complaint was that he was just sort of there. She didn't understand why we should care about this character, as he didn't seem very interesting or special apart from his powers. She only went to see Avengers because she loved RDJ. And I think that's a problem filmmakers haven't adequately dealt with yet re: Cap. In Avengers, he's still just some guy, who gets treated a certain way because he was this heroic old war symbol, and he's allowed to lead the Avengers for some reason, but at every turn Stark one ups him--he's more clever, he's more insightful, he's funnier, he's more likable, etc. Cap needs to step out of his shadow here IMO, if he's going to be anything more than a superficial imitation of what he is in the comics.

That's kinda how I felt about the first, but I thought he was slightly better in Avengers, probably because he was among an ensemble and didn't have to carry the emotional weight of the movie all himself.

I really hope this one makes up for the first one in terms of characterization.

 

[Kamandi]

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In terms of character I always thought of Steve Rodgers as Marvel's answer to Clark Kent. He is a soldier, but with a strong sense of ethics and a boy scout at heart. He's trustworthy, modest, respectful and occasionally at a loss for what to make of the world. He's the kind of person who would have found a way to be a hero even without powers, but now has the resources to really make a difference.

I thought the first movie captured all of that.

 

[GasparZizou]

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In terms of character I always thought of Steve Rodgers as Marvel's answer to Clark Kent. He is a soldier, but with a strong sense of ethics and a boy scout at heart. He's trustworthy, modest, respectful and occasionally at a loss for what to make of the world. He's the kind of person who would have found a way to be a hero even without powers, but now has the resources to really make a difference.

I thought the first movie captured all of that.

 

[Jaycepticon]

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I thought the first Cap movie was awesome, I just wish there was an extended cut of his battle montage. Other than that, I could watch the hell out of that movie. Can't wait until it starts it's syndication on FX

 

[Khev]

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In terms of character I always thought of Steve Rodgers as Marvel's answer to Clark Kent. He is a soldier, but with a strong sense of ethics and a boy scout at heart. He's trustworthy, modest, respectful and occasionally at a loss for what to make of the world. He's the kind of person who would have found a way to be a hero even without powers, but now has the resources to really make a difference.

I thought the first movie captured all of that.

CA: TFA absolutely captured everything about Cap/Steve as a person that I've always found appealing and delivered fantastic action as well. Plus unexpected gems like the entire supporting cast, Star Spangled Man montage and so on just really knocked it out of the park for me.

Him fighting that Hydra dude on the windshield of that little bomber was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen.

 

[karamazov80]

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It's true that he came off as a nice, trustworthy, likable guy. But that could apply to the vast majority of characters that were written in the '40s-mid-60s (possibly every single DC hero barring the Spectre during this time). Maybe that does distinguish Cap somewhat from some other heroes in modern times, but I can see how a casual moviegoer wouldn't see it as particularly noteworthy. And myself being a long-time Cap fan and comic reader didn't feel it was enough, because it still felt like a fairly generic and superficial overview of who this character is. Having said that, I do think it was good at providing this broad overview, but he really needs to be better fleshed out, and hopefully the new movie will do this. That generic-ness was really highlighted in Avengers IMO, where he would have come off as forgettable if not for his iconic outfit, handful of one-liners, and being thrust into the tactical leadership role for no discernible reason.

 

[thenammagazine]

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In terms of character I always thought of Steve Rodgers as Marvel's answer to Clark Kent. He is a soldier, but with a strong sense of ethics and a boy scout at heart. He's trustworthy, modest, respectful and occasionally at a loss for what to make of the world. He's the kind of person who would have found a way to be a hero even without powers, but now has the resources to really make a difference.

I thought the first movie captured all of that.

The problem is getting him up to speed with how ****ty everything is nowadays.

 

[KingB]

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It's true that he came off as a nice, trustworthy, likable guy. But that could apply to the vast majority of characters that were written in the '40s-mid-60s (possibly every single DC hero barring the Spectre during this time). Maybe that does distinguish Cap somewhat from some other heroes in modern times, but I can see how a casual moviegoer wouldn't see it as particularly noteworthy. And myself being a long-time Cap fan and comic reader didn't feel it was enough, because it still felt like a fairly generic and superficial overview of who this character is. Having said that, I do think it was good at providing this broad overview, but he really needs to be better fleshed out, and hopefully the new movie will do this. That generic-ness was really highlighted in Avengers IMO, where he would have come off as forgettable if not for his iconic outfit, handful of one-liners, and being thrust into the tactical leadership role for no discernible reason.

One would hope this has been discussed among those who have control over what will happen in this movie. Directors, Writers Etc.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

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In terms of character I always thought of Steve Rodgers as Marvel's answer to Clark Kent. He is a soldier, but with a strong sense of ethics and a boy scout at heart. He's trustworthy, modest, respectful and occasionally at a loss for what to make of the world. He's the kind of person who would have found a way to be a hero even without powers, but now has the resources to really make a difference.

I thought the first movie captured all of that.

Well said and I totally agree.