Captain Marvel - March 8, 2019

[Khev]

Reads pretty much like my feelings about the film.. Direction and story are the major let downs of this film.. A TV show comparison is justified.

Um guys.. Its Turtle(s) in the Rocky film... Cuff and Link

Yes, that's true there were two turtles, and they're still alive in real life, lol.

Regarding CM my eyes welled up twice the movie really got to me for whatever wacky reason lol

I just can't believe that the very next movie after SL's death had the main hero literally stopping in her tracks to pause her mission and give him a deliberate smile of approval right to his face. I don't know that I could have hoped for anything better.

I said the visuals in CM were average but one scene that did kind of blow me away was that early shot of the three Kree warships coming out of the clouds as they descended onto that first planet. That looked freaking awesome. The borderline gory transformations of the Skrulls were pretty sweet too. And I did geek out at the little nods to other films like

Spoiler

the appearance of the tesseract (sorry Carol you still owe all your powers to the fact that Cap caused the Red Skull to lose the cube, lol) and the fact that Fury's scratched eye matched the wound he revealed in TWS.

And I do admit to probably chuckling a little too loudly at the slow ass loading CD-ROM, lol.

 

[Prime Clone]

BvSUE is the best modern superhero film, in my opinion. As someone mentioned in the CM figure thread, it’s way more than a simple popcorn flick.

I share your extremely-small-minority opinion! People joke about not "getting" BvS but in actual fact they don't, or at least don't bother trying.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

I share your extremely-small-minority opinion! People joke about not "getting" BvS but in actual fact they don't, or at least don't bother trying.

Shhhh..These da wrong neck of the woods for making such claims, you could get lynched for saying such things lol. I don’t disagree although I think MOS is even better then bvs. Justice league ****ed up Superman’s face no matter how much I try to take it seriously I just can’t. The only scenes where his face isn’t ****ed up is when he kicks the Jls ass (but when picks up Batman then it’s back to crazy joker smile cavil) and the cornfield scene with lois. Mustache gate in 4K is so painful to watch because of his ****ed up face it’s not even funny...WB should have pushed that **** back, crazy ****ing studio to release that ****. If cavil doesn’t play Superman again it would be a tragedy but I’d understand after that face debacle, hard to forget it.. Maybe that’s why they are holding off, hoping we forget that ****ed up smile

 

[JAWS]

Just got back from the viewing with my daughter (as her reward for a great report card).

7/10 ; 8/10 watching my daughter geek out over this female hero. And yes she really did.

Was there a females can do anything slant to the film, of course....and there should have been. After seeing how amped my daughter was after the end, I realized how few example of strong female leads in film there are, especially compared to males.
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Cool that you daughter liked it.. Its always nice when kids can really enjoy a movie and its hero's

Weird that my kids never really took to the idol worship like I did when I was younger. Indiana Jones, Conan, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Rambo etc.. I wanted to be all of them But while my kids like movies they don't look up to any of the characters.. Perhaps that is because I have brought them up with showing them behind the scenes features the whole time and they always knew it was just a movie.. I don't know. Just kinda weird.. I would say my oldest would say that Godzilla is his hero I am good with that one.

However I think there seems to be plenty of positive / strong female roles in movies (Bumble Bee, WW, Star Wars, Hunger Games, Divergent series, Laura Croft, Incredibles 2) and that's not getting into the co-starring roles that are out there. This is all good btw.. If you get out of the action genre.. Drama's often have strong female characters.. They just tend not to be in blockbusters and perhaps something you would not want to take your child to.

Strange that we see "Strong female lead" as a woman who fights and acts a bit more "man" like.. However I would say Brie's character in The Room was a much stronger woman then Captain Marvel. Granted you wont be taking your kid to see that

Of course I don't have a daughter.. So I am not sure what its like to watch a film where perhaps the woman is not "strong" or even weak and how it might affect my kid... Perhaps I am blind or take for granted all the "strong" male films that are out there.


But I would say that other then Superhero films I am not sure there are that many films with really positive male role models either.. Strong yes but not all that positive. Most of the time anymore the males play more of an antihero... I guess there are the films like Rampage, Meg, Ready Player One, and Creed that had more of what I would consider a traditional Male "hero / role model" But two of those films are not all that good either

But like I said earlier.. Being a man and having sons.. Perhaps I am taking it all for granted

But there don't seem to be a lot of Luke Skywalkers or Indiana Jones' anymore.

Maze Runner Maybe …… IDK.. Never really thought about it.

 

[jye4ever]

Great post JAWS loved reading that.

The more we demand out of cinema to have deeper realistic layers the more complicated it becomes which is good and bad I guess.

 

[JAWS]

Great post JAWS loved reading that.

The more we demand out of cinema to have deeper realistic layers the more complicated it becomes which is good and bad I guess.

Thanks Jye and very true..

Strange thing though is that out of all the MCU hero's, while Hulk is my fav, I get the biggest enjoyment out of the Cap character... Perhaps its because he is the most like the hero's of old. Truth Justice and the American way and all that. He has layers but it never stops him from doing what is 100% right.

 

[xipotec]

Yup great post Jaws.....

I have one child of each flavor. My daughter is the film lover....she has latched onto more traditionally male heros, as the first films she really has seen , were MY favorites, on our home theater. So Indy, Marty, Brody, Luke etc etc....

The first franchise she latched onto wad Jurassic Park and Pacific Rim......cause she loves Kaiju. And shes immensely excited about Godzilla KOM , because the TV show she likes the most is Stranger Things.....also with a great female lead heroic character.

Alot of the women heroes you mentioned were just not quite there for her age wise, or story wise.

With Disney she liked Mulan and Lion King, as well as Frozen (and Kubo.)

This seemed to be the first character (CM) , however, she connected with in a way as we did with our heroes. Which was cool to see.






Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[jye4ever]

Yes, that's true there were two turtles, and they're still alive in real life, lol.



I just can't believe that the very next movie after SL's death had the main hero literally stopping in her tracks to pause her mission and give him a deliberate smile of approval right to his face. I don't know that I could have hoped for anything better.

I said the visuals in CM were average but one scene that did kind of blow me away was that early shot of the three Kree warships coming out of the clouds as they descended onto that first planet. That looked freaking awesome. The borderline gory transformations of the Skrulls were pretty sweet too. And I did geek out at the little nods to other films like

Spoiler

the appearance of the tesseract (sorry Carol you still owe all your powers to the fact that Cap caused the Red Skull to lose the cube, lol) and the fact that Fury's scratched eye matched the wound he revealed in TWS.

And I do admit to probably chuckling a little too loudly at the slow ass loading CD-ROM, lol.

How did I miss this post.

My wife knows that Rule # 1 in my household is NEVER miss a Khev post!

Yup CM owes all of her abilities to Cap.

Take that Press Junket Diversity

Thanks Jye and very true..

Strange thing though is that out of all the MCU hero's, while Hulk is my fav, I get the biggest enjoyment out of the Cap character... Perhaps its because he is the most like the hero's of old. Truth Justice and the American way and all that. He has layers but it never stops him from doing what is 100% right.

Man JAWS if what is being spread around about Hulk in End Game is even 50% accurate us Hulk fans are in for a real treat.

What’s spreading around is not an actual spoiler it’s that the Russo’s had a “top 5 must do things” list and one of those was Hulk having his most bad ass extended moment in all of the MCU!

Can’t blame them for wanting to leave their final mark in the MCU with that!

This is crazy:

End Game Trailer 1 and 2 have a combined record breaking 557 million views in 48 hours.

I mean how do you process that lol

 

[JAWS]

Man JAWS if what is being spread around about Hulk in End Game is even 50% accurate us Hulk fans are in for a real treat.

What’s spreading around is not an actual spoiler it’s that the Russo’s had a “top 5 must do things” list and one of those was Hulk having his most bad ass extended moment in all of the MCU!

Can’t blame them for wanting to leave their final mark in the MCU with that!

I have not heard that.. I refuse to get myself too pumped up for that as I don't want to be let down.. But I will be so happy if it happens.. It really needs too.. Its been a long time since we have had a truly classic Hulk moment.. He basically plays punching bag for everyone else.

They have never even really touched on his true strength. Knocking out the space slug with one punch is the closest they got. Well making Thor his ***** in Avengers was pretty good too

 

[jye4ever]

Yup those 2 moments remain his pinnacle so far not even in TIH did he have a really big godly moment of strength.

 

[xipotec]

Yup those 2 moments remain his pinnacle so far not even in TIH did he have a really big godly moment of strength.

Oh he has had alot of Hulk moments.....

Just watch TIH.....


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[kiwiatlarge]

Personally after his beat down and confidence fizzle against Thanos, I'd like to have seen him break out of Hulkbuster while Hulkbuster was getting a beatdown from Cull Obsidian, and defeat him that way..

 

[jye4ever]

Oh he has had alot of Hulk moments.....

Just watch TIH.....


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

Lets ask the Hulk megafan if he agrees with you....

Personally after his beat down and confidence fizzle against Thanos, I'd like to have seen him break out of Hulkbuster while Hulkbuster was getting a beatdown from Cull Obsidian, and defeat him that way..

I initially felt the same way especially on first viewing it was literally the only spoiler I had mistakenly read on IW that Hulk would burst out from the HB and when it didn’t happen I was kind of bummed out opening night...kind of because the rest of the movie delivered so it didn’t ruin the movie for me.

But over time after listening to the Russos I began to see the larger long term narrative picture they are going for with Banner (including Thor 3 as part of that) and I then realized how genius of them to show Hulk running in the now infamous IW trailer misdirect and instead giving us a super heroic moment from Banner in IW which will then lead into Hulk returning to form in End Game, these two movies are really just one movie with a year intermission lol

The catch here is that End Game HAS TO DELIVER THE GOODS for Hulk or else his treatment in IW will be considered a huge narrative disaster for him and us fans.

In Russos we trust!

 

[a-dev]

Personally after his beat down and confidence fizzle against Thanos, I'd like to have seen him break out of Hulkbuster while Hulkbuster was getting a beatdown from Cull Obsidian, and defeat him that way..

That's what we all assumed would happen. Thinking about it, maybe they didn't do it because they would have only had to have him get beaten up/disabled by Thanos a second time so why bother. Wait to give him a big hero moment in Endgame when there can be an actual triumph.

 

[xipotec]

I dont think there is any doubt Hulk will take on Thanos again and win. Thats the whole point of his story.

He will do it to save Widow, and they will live happily every after...

Its the only possible resolution for his arc.




Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[The Buffinator]

I dont think there is any doubt Hulk will take on Thanos again and win. Thats the whole point of his story.

He will do it to save Widow, and they will live happily every after...

Its the only possible resolution for his arc.




Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

Or maybe Natasha dies and that's what fuels the rage he needs to channel in order to give Thanos a beatdown. The BW solo movie is a prequel, right?

 

[JAWS]

Oh he has had alot of Hulk moments.....

Just watch TIH.....


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

Lets ask the Hulk megafan if he agrees with you....

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What I was referring to and I think Jye was also was "feats of strength" moments.

Hulk is one of Marvels most powerful characters and accept for beating up Thor on the Helicarrior and knocking out the space slug with one punch, Hulks true strength has never been on full display.

TIH has some great moments that are great for the Hulk character and are ripped right out of the comics.

Hulk saying "Leave me alone" in the bottle factory is one of my top 5 for sure. Also love the Thunder clap and the "Hulk smash" moments but he seems a little depowered in that film. Don't get me wrong. I really like the film but his biggest feats of strength are struggling to list a military jeep and throwing a bolder I know he does a little more then that but nothing like what he does in The Avengers.

Hulk is almost worthless in AOU and does not get to do much in Thor 3.

Really hoping for some great Hulk moments in Endgame. Would make me feel much better about everything else

 

[JAWS]

I dont think there is any doubt Hulk will take on Thanos again and win. Thats the whole point of his story.

He will do it to save Widow, and they will live happily every after...

Its the only possible resolution for his arc.




Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

Or Wido gets killed.. He blames the Avengers. He goes World Breaker Hulk on everyone.. Is about to destroy the MCU and then Liv Tylor shows up to calm him down and live happily ever after..

Hey a man can dream cant he.

 

[JAWS]

I initially felt the same way especially on first viewing it was literally the only spoiler I had mistakenly read on IW that Hulk would burst out from the HB and when it didn’t happen I was kind of bummed out opening night...kind of because the rest of the movie delivered so it didn’t ruin the movie for me.

But over time after listening to the Russos I began to see the larger long term narrative picture they are going for with Banner (including Thor 3 as part of that) and I then realized how genius of them to show Hulk running in the now infamous IW trailer misdirect and instead giving us a super heroic moment from Banner in IW which will then lead into Hulk returning to form in End Game, these two movies are really just one movie with a year intermission lol

The catch here is that End Game HAS TO DELIVER THE GOODS for Hulk or else his treatment in IW will be considered a huge narrative disaster for him and us fans.

In Russos we trust!

First time I watched IW I was OK with what they did with Hulk. I figured they were saving him for the next film to do something. I just hope they deliver.

I mean its reported to be 3 hours long. That's long enough to defeat Thanos and then have to take on an Enraged hulk More dreaming

 

[Khev]

How did I miss this post.

My wife knows that Rule # 1 in my household is NEVER miss a Khev post!

Yup CM owes all of her abilities to Cap.

Yep.

I saw a video where an anti-SJW dude was ranting that CM retconned Captain America out of being the inspiration for the Avengers. Except that the "Avenger Initiative" first mentioned at the end of Iron Man had no connection to Cap in the first place and now it *does.* The Red Skull gets the tesseract, Cap defeats him causing the tesseract to be retrieved by the US government, the US puts it on a space station and uses it to remotely power a fancy new jet engine which inadvertently gives superpowers to Carol "Avenger" Danvers who crosses paths with Nick Fury and causes him to create the Avengers team and tons of fancy new SHIELD tech. All the byproducts of Steve Rogers standing up to and thwarting the Red Skull. :

And as of now he's still the heart of the team. When Batroc challenged Cap to see if he was more than just a vibranium shield Steve saw it as an opportunity to see if his own mettle and fighting abilities were still enough to get the job done. They were. When Jude Law gave Carol the same opportunity in the desert at the end of CM she refused to give up her crutch.