Captain Marvel - March 8, 2019

[jal76]

Its just proof that no matter where the wacky stuff is said, by the uber nerd snowflake fans, or uber self centered racist actresses.....

It just will not change box office numbers for the VAST majority of movie going public. They just ate not in tune to all this drama.

What makes the box office is interest in a film.....period.



Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

I agree with your point...at the risk of turning this into Sociology class though, unless I missed some other comments that she made I am not certain that it is reasonable to classify someone making a critique about their own ethnic group's perceived over-representation in an area of discourse as being "racist." Dumb opinion? Maybe. Unneeded comment? Maybe. Racist...particular against a racial group that she also belongs to...nah...

 

[Khev]

jye did you like the action in this movie? I'll actually be kind of surprised if you think that it delivered in that department.

 

[Khev]

Could be...but bottom line is Brie Larson got to get some stuff off her chest and her movie did just fine. The same people who were predicting that she had just single handedly killed her movie's chance of succeeding, the entire MCU, and her own career knew that Endgame was coming out a month later when they made those predictions. There are a million reasons that CM is doing well that have nothing to do with Brie Larson and those were all baked in well before the movie was released. After Larson's interviews the angry nerds came up with one reason that the movie would in fact fail...turns out they were wrong as usual...that's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying that the only reason this film is doing well is because it's coming out the month before EG but I can't help but wonder. Maybe it's connecting with audiences on it's own and maybe they're simply catching it as required viewing before EG especially with no other major competition.

Remember how in the 90's NBC could put literally any sitcom between Friends and Seinfeld or Seinfeld and ER and it would instantly be Top 3 in the ratings? That same situation might be the case with CM. Like I said we won't have a better idea of that until her next solo flick.

 

[jal76]

I'm not saying that the only reason this film is doing well is because it's coming out the month before EG but I can't help but wonder. Maybe it's connecting with audiences on it's own and maybe they're simply catching it as required viewing before EG especially with no other major competition.

Remember how in the 90's NBC could put literally any sitcom between Friends and Seinfeld or Seinfeld and ER and it would instantly be Top 3 in the ratings? That same situation might be the case with CM. Like I said we won't have a better idea of that until her next solo flick.

I agree with most of what your offering as the reason that CM is doing well...but I was of the opinion that it was always going to do well no matter what. I just want to send the reminder that a bunch of basement dwellers said that THIS movie...not its future sequel...was either going to fail or that they were going to cause it to fail as a response to the actresses interview comments - and they were wrong. No one ever said that the movie would succeed because of Brie Larson...but a bunch of people who now have to eat crow incorrectly said that it would fail because of her.

 

[jye4ever]

jye did you like the action in this movie? I'll actually be kind of surprised if you think that it delivered in that department.

That’s a great question lol

I’ll use BP for my comparison.

BP failed miserably in the action dept for me because the character literally has Panther in his name and he didn’t live up to what that name evokes.

He was awesome in CW but in his own movie he was hampered by very weak choreography and cgi.

Yes CM also lacks that certain choreography and oomph when it comes to action and neither BP or CM come even close to the best the MCU has to offer in that specific category like TWS/CW/Avengers/AOU/IW but I also think the title Captain Marvel evokes more of an adventurous feel than straight up action.

Carol Danvers only needs the Russo touch those “indie” directors were never going to cut the mustard lol

There’s still some good to be had with a person that shoots out energy beams.

I still prefer the overall movie to BP.

It’s in the middle of the MCU pack for me where as BP I have towards the bottom.

I put CM in the same category as Thor 1

 

[The Buffinator]

Eh, CM's box office could also be massively inflated by the fact that audiences are assuming it's required viewing before Endgame. We won't know until her next solo flick that won't have the benefit of being sandwiched between the biggest two cbm's in cinema history.

Given the MCU's track record, don't discount the possibility that CM2 will also be sandwiched between the two biggest CBMs in cinema history - just not the two you're thinking of (IW & Endgame). So we may have to delay judgment until CM3.

 

[xipotec]

I agree with your point...at the risk of turning this into Sociology class though, unless I missed some other comments that she made I am not certain that it is reasonable to classify someone making a critique about their own ethnic group's perceived over-representation in an area of discourse as being "racist." Dumb opinion? Maybe. Unneeded comment? Maybe. Racist...particular against a racial group that she also belongs to...nah...

Oh, I know. I was just trying to encapsulate the extremist views from each side...

Truth always falls in the middle.




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[Khev]

That’s a great question lol

I’ll use BP for my comparison.

BP failed miserably in the action dept for me because the character literally has Panther in his name and he didn’t live up to what that name evokes.

He was awesome in CW but in his own movie he was hampered by very weak choreography and cgi.

Yes CM also lacks that certain choreography and oomph when it comes to action and neither BP or CM come even close to the best the MCU has to offer in that specific category like TWS/CW/Avengers/AOU/IW but I also think the title Captain Marvel evokes more of an adventurous feel than straight up action.

Carol Danvers only needs the Russo touch those “indie” directors were never going to cut the mustard lol

There’s still some good to be had with a person that shoots out energy beams.

I still prefer the overall movie to BP.

It’s in the middle of the MCU pack for me where as BP I have towards the bottom.

I put CM in the same category as Thor 1

Yeah it'll be interesting to see how she plays after being Russo-ized. But yeah those indie directors sucked, lol.

 

[Khev]

Given the MCU's track record, don't discount the possibility that CM2 will also be sandwiched between the two biggest CBMs in cinema history - just not the two you're thinking of (IW & Endgame). So we may have to delay judgment until CM3.

Very true. Or for all we know people will love her after AEG, CM2 might get a top shelf director, it might have no competition, Brie Larson might die right before it's released, who the hell knows, so many factors that could pop up and impact box office at any given time, lol.

 

[jye4ever]

CM2 will be sandwiched inbetween:

“MCU X-Men Jim Lee Style with Wolverine in FULL costume”

and

“MCU F4 vs MCU DOOM!”

1.5 billion!

 

[jal76]

Oh, I know. I was just trying to encapsulate the extremist views from each side...

Truth always falls in the middle.




Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

I hoped as much...you are typically a voice of reason in these parts.

 

[xipotec]

I hoped as much...you are typically a voice of reason in these parts.

Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

One thing that the worldwide box office shows me... Is that the world has some bad taste in movies

I have to Assume the list has not been updated to include CM yet.

1	Avatar	Fox	$2,788.0	$760.5	27.3%	$2,027.5	72.7%	2009^
2	Titanic	Par.	$2,187.5	$659.4	30.1%	$1,528.1	69.9%	1997^
3	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	BV	$2,068.2	$936.7	45.3%	$1,131.6	54.7%	2015
4	Avengers: Infinity War	BV	$2,048.4	$678.8	33.1%	$1,369.5	66.9%	2018
5	Jurassic World	Uni.	$1,671.7	$652.3	39.0%	$1,019.4	61.0%	2015
6	Marvel's The Avengers	BV	$1,518.8	$623.4	41.0%	$895.5	59.0%	2012
7	Furious 7	Uni.	$1,516.0	$353.0	23.3%	$1,163.0	76.7%	2015
8	Avengers: Age of Ultron	BV	$1,405.4	$459.0	32.7%	$946.4	67.3%	2015
9	Black Panther	BV	$1,346.9	$700.1	52.0%	$646.9	48.0%	2018
10	Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2	WB	$1,341.7	$381.2	28.4%	$960.5	71.6%	2011^

Give me The Avengers and IW.. You can keep the rest

Wow, after CM and EG, six in the top 10 all time biggest films will be Marvel. And after this year, Disney might have 8 out of the top ten all time.


They must be terrified of Shazam's 40 mill opening tho.

 

[jye4ever]

 

[jye4ever]

I think I just walked by a goose cosplayer.

 

[moose]

It continues to amazing how marvel and keep making average plot movies packaged in good special effects and still they make a ton of money.

If DC just aimed at making a basic super hero movie with out having the dark brooding complex narrative like they did in Aquaman every movie will make money even if its critically average.

Marvel has got this formula stuff down pat rinse and repeat.

 

[jye4ever]

But Aquaman did make a billion lol

Sure Shazam won’t but it’s a lower budget movie so I don’t know if it even has too.

The Snyder days are over my man long gone are those ridiculous days when Snyder mocked the MCU for being too funny and fluffy.

WB have always known that drama and comedy can coexist they did it as far back as Superman 78 but TDK made them over confident.

 

[Sassafras]

It continues to amazing how marvel and keep making average plot movies packaged in good special effects and still they make a ton of money.

If DC just aimed at making a basic super hero movie with out having the dark brooding complex narrative like they did in Aquaman every movie will make money even if its critically average.

Marvel has got this formula stuff down pat rinse and repeat.[/QUOTE]

I wonder tho - for one thing, comment after comment on YT about people bailing after EG. Other articles about the long gap after Spidey 2 until the next MCU movie - e.g. general consensus seems to be that wisely Disney will be taking time to think things over. There's planned films, of course. BW is slated to film June-October - but that's still an established character.

And there's the burnout factor - the rinse and repeat may not work so well with incoming characters. Plus, IMO - like I've been re-watching the MCU and even the maligned IM3 - there was a lot of LAVISH stuff. Sets, costumes, CGI. Amazing complex IM and WM armor.

Is Disney gonna pay for top-level stuff or do the rubber CGI Black Panther fight stuff?

 

[moose]

But Aquaman did make a billion lol

Sure Shazam won’t but it’s a lower budget movie so I don’t know if it even has too.

The Snyder days are over my man long gone are those ridiculous days when Snyder mocked the MCU for being too funny and fluffy.

WB have always known that drama and comedy can coexist they did it as far back as Superman 78 but TDK made them over confident.

Yeah the Nolan movies were amazing at first I wanted everything to made in the same fashion as change to marvels comedic style, and I still would prefer variety over this marvel formula but with any comic adaptation I think you have to stay true to the roots of the character all the while updating g thecharacter.

I dont think any of us would like to see batman in the new Reeves movie using out with jokes and gags, because that is not how he is portrayed in the comics it feels out of place.

But the same time just because spiderman is always cracking jokes that we cant have that dark scence whem Gwen dies or her father that was great.

Watching this movie was a forget able experience because I could not connect with the character . Everything is generic the character , the villains the only thing that stood out to me was the twist other then that it was a basic movie.

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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

But Aquaman did make a billion lol

Sure Shazam won’t but it’s a lower budget movie so I don’t know if it even has too.

The Snyder days are over my man long gone are those ridiculous days when Snyder mocked the MCU for being too funny and fluffy.

WB have always known that drama and comedy can coexist they did it as far back as Superman 78 but TDK made them over confident.

You're just not woke, bro. You can't accept real world ****. You want the blue pill, bro! You don't want to wear the sunglasses and see the truth, bro!!

During a recent recent Q&A, director Zack Snyder addressed his handling of Batman and seems surprised that anyone would have an issue with the character killing.
"Someone says to me: [Ben Affleck’s] Batman killed a guy. I’m like, ‘[frick], really? Wake the [frick] up.I guess that’s what I’m saying. Once you've lost your virginity to this [frick]ing movie and then you come and say to me something about like ‘my superhero wouldn’t do that.' I’m like ‘Are you serious?’ I’m like down the [frick]ing road on that. It’s a cool point of view to be like ‘my heroes are still innocent. My heroes didn't [frick]ing lie to America. My heroes didn't embezzle money from their corporations. My heroes didn't commit any atrocities.' That’s cool. But you’re living in a [frick]ing dream world."