Captain Marvel - March 8, 2019

[ironwez20]

The party is not over yet. We will be back WHEN Captain Marvel hits 1 Billion $$$$ at the box office!

I’m glad this is such a big deal for you.

 

[ironwez20]

Not true. We don't want it to be an "argument" we want it to be recognized as an objective and inarguable fact that you were wrong

I could care less about who won and who didn’t . I watched it and I didn’t see why people were so mad but I also thought the movie was forgettable and just ok. So you didn’t prove me wrong. It’s just a movie

 

[BeefEaster]

The rationalizing from the people that were so sure the movie would flop was good for a laugh if anything.

First it was conspiracies that Disney bought up all the tickets themselves. Then it was the assurances that the post opening weekend drop off would be massive.

 

[xipotec]

I agree it was a good strategy that provided a viable fallback by stirring up some drama. The crowd who foolishly tried to actively boycott it would get persecuted either way: if it’s a success, you’re all a-holes for trying to boycott it. If it was a box office bomb, it’s your fault because you’re all a-holes.

I don’t think anyone would have blamed a boycott for a box office bomb....

The uber nerd crowd that actually would care enough to boycott a comic book movie over some perceived slight by the star of the film cannot number more than a few hundred. In the grand scheme of the movie going public they wouldn’t even rate.

Scarcely a threat. Same goes for the boycott from SW , ineffectual and inconsequential are better descriptors.



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[SilverStar17]

I don’t think SW (presuming you’re referring to TLJ) had any extraneous drama going into the film though from what I recall. The big outrage happened after the film because it was a controversial film.

 

[jal76]

I could care less about who won and who didn’t . I watched it and I didn’t see why people were so mad but I also thought the movie was forgettable and just ok. So you didn’t prove me wrong. It’s just a movie

I typically choose not to care about who won or who didn't when I lose too... As for who may have been proven wrong...good movie, bad movie that's all in the eye of the beholder...however, anyone who thought that Brie Larson's social views would cause the movie to suffer at the box office was proven wrong...not by me, but by the movie's performance. If you were of this opinion then you were proven wrong. If you were not...then I guess it does not apply to you.

 

[xipotec]

I don’t think SW (presuming you’re referring to TLJ) had any extraneous drama going into the film though from what I recall. The big outrage happened after the film because it was a controversial film.

Ah that true. As I remember it also. I was referring to the Solo Boycott.....I dont think that was why it underperformed.

I think it was plain old franchise fatigue. We shall see with episode IX box office if the drop-off is significant compared to the other trilogies.



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[SilverStar17]

Ah that true. As I remember it also. I was referring to the Solo Boycott.....I dont think that was why it underperformed.

I think it was plain old franchise fatigue. We shall see with episode IX box office if the drop-off is significant compared to the other trilogies.



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Ah ok, Solo. Like you said, I agree I think that had to do more with franchise fatigue, and perhaps even some residual outrage from TLJ being that it came out a mere 5 months later. It was also simply a filler film that had nothing to do with any of the three major episode trilogies (unlike R1 that was attached to the OT), so like you also said, the true test will be Episode IX as to how forgivable the “sin” of TLJ is.

 

[a-dev]

Ah that true. As I remember it also. I was referring to the Solo Boycott.....I dont think that was why it underperformed.

I think it was plain old franchise fatigue. We shall see with episode IX box office if the drop-off is significant compared to the other trilogies.



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I dunno about franchise fatigue causing Solo to bomb. I mean there's now many more MCU films than there are Star Wars films and over a much smaller time-frame and the MCU is obviously still going incredibly strong.

If I had to guess I think it was a general disinterest or worse, disgust, at the idea of anyone other than Harrison Ford playing the character of Han Solo. And for those that did go to see it, it wasn't so good that they had to go back and see it a second, third, fourth time and so on. I enjoyed it but was happy to wait for my next viewing to be at home.

 

[SilverStar17]

If I had to guess I think it was a general disinterest or worse, disgust, at the idea of anyone other than Harrison Ford playing the character of Han Solo.

I agree this likely being a factor as well.

 

[jal76]

I dunno about franchise fatigue causing Solo to bomb. I mean there's now many more MCU films than there are Star Wars films and over a much smaller time-frame and the MCU is obviously still going incredibly strong.

If I had to guess I think it was a general disinterest or worse, disgust, at the idea of anyone other than Harrison Ford playing the character of Han Solo. And for those that did go to see it, it wasn't so good that they had to go back and see it a second, third, fourth time and so on. I enjoyed it but was happy to wait for my next viewing to be at home.

I loved Solo...but it was destined to fail regardless of timing or the movies that came before or after it. It epitomized the concept of making a movie that nobody asked for. Die hard Star Wars fans did not like the idea of someone else playing Solo as you pointed out and really preferred not to know his back story. Casual movie viewers could not have cared less about a movie about Han Solo...so who was the target audience? The movie's performance was dismal but the more I think about it I am actually surprised that it did as well as it did...

 

[SilverStar17]

I loved Solo...but it was destined to fail regardless of timing or the movies that came before or after it. It epitomized the concept of making a movie that nobody asked for. Die hard Star Wars fans did not like the idea of someone else playing Solo as you pointed out and really preferred not to know his back story. Casual movie viewers could not have cared less about a movie about Han Solo...so who was the target audience? The movie's performance was dismal but the more I think about it I am actually surprised that it did as well as it did...

Almost perfectly describes why I haven’t seen it yet. I have no urgent desire to see Solo’s backstory.

 

[kiwiatlarge]

Not to mention, as someone pointed out not too long ago, every major thing that the OT mentioned or hinted happened to Solo pre-OT all happened in that one movie. One big flaw so many prequel movies have, is that they have to spell out every single thing for you.

 

[a-dev]

I loved Solo...but it was destined to fail regardless of timing or the movies that came before or after it. It epitomized the concept of making a movie that nobody asked for. Die hard Star Wars fans did not like the idea of someone else playing Solo as you pointed out and really preferred not to know his back story. Casual movie viewers could not have cared less about a movie about Han Solo...so who was the target audience? The movie's performance was dismal but the more I think about it I am actually surprised that it did as well as it did...

Nail on the head there.

I myself was highly wary of the idea of it but, turns out I like the film (Solo). It did not offend. On the contrary a few parts in it make me grin from ear to ear.

 

[ironwez20]

I typically choose not to care about who won or who didn't when I lose too... As for who may have been proven wrong...good movie, bad movie that's all in the eye of the beholder...however, anyone who thought that Brie Larson's social views would cause the movie to suffer at the box office was proven wrong...not by me, but by the movie's performance. If you were of this opinion then you were proven wrong. If you were not...then I guess it does not apply to you.

Yea I didn’t care. It was just a movie. It’s not a big deal. So it was forgotten about days after I saw it

 

[e30ernest]

I don’t think SW (presuming you’re referring to TLJ) had any extraneous drama going into the film though from what I recall. The big outrage happened after the film because it was a controversial film.

I think coming into TLJ there were some issues raised on how Mark Hamill hinted at Luke's characterization being against what he thought it should have been. Other than that, I can't remember any issues. After the film, I think the controversy was blown out of proportion by RJ's reaction to some fan backlash. It was generally positive until that point IMO.

I dunno about franchise fatigue causing Solo to bomb. I mean there's now many more MCU films than there are Star Wars films and over a much smaller time-frame and the MCU is obviously still going incredibly strong.

If I had to guess I think it was a general disinterest or worse, disgust, at the idea of anyone other than Harrison Ford playing the character of Han Solo. And for those that did go to see it, it wasn't so good that they had to go back and see it a second, third, fourth time and so on. I enjoyed it but was happy to wait for my next viewing to be at home.

In addition to that, I think Solo flopped because it wasn't a SW movie that would have added anything to the story. The character was DEAD after TFA. We had enough of his story in the original trilogy to be satisfied. We just did not need to know about his backstory.

I watched Solo on a long-haul flight back in December. I fell asleep watching it.

Going back to CM, I thought some of the scenes were terribly lit, especially the first few fight scenes on that dark planet and the Skrull ship. I wonder if anyone noticed the same?

 

[Malgus]

The rationalizing from the people that were so sure the movie would flop was good for a laugh if anything.

First it was conspiracies that Disney bought up all the tickets themselves. Then it was the assurances that the post opening weekend drop off would be massive.

You are forgetting the claims that Disney packed theatres with mannequins to give the impression of a packed house.

 

[xipotec]

I loved Solo...but it was destined to fail regardless of timing or the movies that came before or after it. It epitomized the concept of making a movie that nobody asked for. Die hard Star Wars fans did not like the idea of someone else playing Solo as you pointed out and really preferred not to know his back story. Casual movie viewers could not have cared less about a movie about Han Solo...so who was the target audience? The movie's performance was dismal but the more I think about it I am actually surprised that it did as well as it did...

All great posts guys...

When I think of why Solo failed I see this in my head....another Solo failure....

Personally I really loved the film, and watch it from time to time.


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[SilverStar17]

I think coming into TLJ there were some issues raised on how Mark Hamill hinted at Luke's characterization being against what he thought it should have been. Other than that, I can't remember any issues. After the film, I think the controversy was blown out of proportion by RJ's reaction to some fan backlash. It was generally positive until that point IMO.

That’s true regarding Mark’s comments right before TLJ released. Though when I stated I don’t think there was any extraneous drama heading into TLJ, I more meant outside surrounding drama that wasn’t germane to the film itself, such as in the case regarding Larson’s controversial comments heading into the release of CM that consequently created two separate camps that went to “battle” per se on something that had nothing to do with the film itself.

Not only were Mark’s comments regarding Luke’s character just prior to the release of TLJ pertinent to the film, but I also think they could have potentially piqued people’s interest into going to see the film, to see what exactly he was talking about regarding Luke. Then from there as I mentioned, it created outrage because some people liked it, while others thought it was sacrilege. But even that was still film related.

 

[Malgus]

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel2018a.htm

And Captain Marvel crossed the 1 Billion mark! An amazing accomplishment! I a sure some people have a heart burn right about this.