Chris Howes' Sculptural Creations

[Voorhees27]

Is this guy dead or something?

No sir ............... it turns out he's just a real big ^^^^^^^.

 

[carbo-fation]

This is starting to piss me off!! I want my head or my money back. I have been more than patient and even defending Chris to a certain degree, but this is ridiculous.

 

[Voorhees27]

Man am I tired of always being so ef'n right!

 

[Anzik]

I opened my mailbox today and I found letters, bills, junk mail but no unpainted, undrilled House and River heads.

 

[vodoun]

Thats if they were even made... can't deliver or post/show pictures of something that was never made or doesn't exist period.

 

[The Drizzle]

Nothing in my mailbox either, and no reply to my 5th refund request. He's got 2 days, and then I'm filing with his local police office, and the FBI's internet fraud division. I'm 100% tired of this crap now. I urge all of you to do the same. Print out your paypal transactions in case they want a fax of it. If these agencies get multiple complaints, he will end up getting some visits to his house that may put a fire under him. It's time for Chris to become uncomfortable with what he has done to all of us. It's not okay that he ignores us, and he doesn't need to be allowed to get away with it.

 

[captdan]

Nothing in my mailbox either, and no reply to my 5th refund request. He's got 2 days, and then I'm filing with his local police office, and the FBI's internet fraud division. I'm 100% tired of this crap now. I urge all of you to do the same. Print out your paypal transactions in case they want a fax of it. If these agencies get multiple complaints, he will end up getting some visits to his house that may put a fire under him. It's time for Chris to become uncomfortable with what he has done to all of us. It's not okay that he ignores us, and he doesn't need to be allowed to get away with it.

You will need to file with your local police department and have them fax the report and any documentation to Ohio, I have all the info if anyone is interested.

I found out an interesting little fact, Howes is the art director for Celebriducks, knowing that you can bet your bottom dollar that I would never order anything from them. I have contacted them and let them know that his actions here are making them guilty by association. Maybe if enough people went to their website and let them know they would see that this situation is also affecting them...

 

[Something Sexy]

You will need to file with your local police department and have them fax the report and any documentation to Ohio, I have all the info if anyone is interested.

I found out an interesting little fact, Howes is the art director for Celebriducks, knowing that you can bet your bottom dollar that I would never order anything from them. I have contacted them and let them know that his actions here are making them guilty by association. Maybe if enough people went to their website and let them know they would see that this situation is also affecting them...

I don't think it is necessary to complete destroy this mans life. File your police reports and do the such but I would leave his day job out of it.

 

[Morbach]

I don't think it is necessary to complete destroy this mans life. File your police reports and do the such but I would leave his day job out of it.

I gotta agree. I know you got royally screwed Captdan,no doubt and I would be mad as hell also. I can get why you're taking such drastic actions but I don't think all that is neccessary.

 

[icruise]

Frankly, this is exactly what I was afraid would happen. If we take a scorched earth approach to this, nobody is going to get anything from him.

 

[Mr Barlow]

I think that makes it improbable and impossible to either get a refund or your product by taking it that far .

 

[KBA]

Well, at this point with no one else receiving House heads it seems the only possible answer is Howes did not mail them out when he said he was going to. Just collector49's. No big updates, no product in hand besides one guy who really raised his voice who had hundreds invested in this mess. Thinking now I should have probably got the refund ball rolling weeks ago. But if he's ignoring Drizzle, what chance does anyone else have?

 

[Morbach]

If he's gonna keep ignoring refund requests then he needs to work faster at getting the product out. Only thing to do IMO

 

[captdan]

I gotta agree. I know you got royally screwed Captdan,no doubt and I would be mad as hell also. I can get why you're taking such drastic actions but I don't think all that is neccessary.

I think I have been more than patient with him and given him amble opportunities to make things right. I have been waiting for 14 months on something he promised would take 4-6 weeks. He has given me (and I am sure everyone else) more excuses than I can count.

He needs to know that I am serious and do not take lightly to getting ripped off, if it takes me contacting his day job, his mother or anyone else I can find then that is what I am going to do. If people continue to take the "Oh Well, guess I will never see the item or my money back" attitude then he wins. I for one am not going to let that happen. If I am not going to get what I paid for or a refund then he is nothing more than a thief and needs to be treated accordingly.

 

[The Drizzle]

Thing is, I don't think he gives a crap. If he did, he'd be trying a little harder to keep us updated, etc, because he should know from all this, and from other customizer's situations on this board that we are a very forgiving bunch if you just keep us in the loop. However, he's not doing that at all, and is ignoring us completely. It's very obvious he looks down on us, and does not give our commissions any hint of priority because he is "Mr. Important Sculptor". Those of you that want us all to just shut up and hope for the best in hopes that it will satiate him and get your heads to you are fooling yourselves. You are a lot more likely to get something if you make some noise. I know you want your headsculpts, but playing "see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil" is just giving him all the leeway he wants to go on about his business and ignore you. What has that attitude gotten any of you so far? One head to the one person that made the most noise, that's it. Time to start facing reality.

 

[Something Sexy]

I think I have been more than patient with him and given him amble opportunities to make things right. I have been waiting for 14 months on something he promised would take 4-6 weeks. He has given me (and I am sure everyone else) more excuses than I can count.

He needs to know that I am serious and do not take lightly to getting ripped off, if it takes me contacting his day job, his mother or anyone else I can find then that is what I am going to do. If people continue to take the "Oh Well, guess I will never see the item or my money back" attitude then he wins. I for one am not going to let that happen. If I am not going to get what I paid for or a refund then he is nothing more than a thief and needs to be treated accordingly.

Just because he is immature about this doesn't mean we have to be. You will get absolutely NO WHERE if you attack his job or his family. If he is a thief then he is a thief, contact the police and they will take care of it but you really aren't gonna get ^^^^ from him if you start harassing him. The only way you will get something out of this is you do it in a civilized way. Document your conversations (or lack of), file whatever reports you need to or contact police or lawyers you need to do but anything beyond that is just stupid and you are going down to his level if you do, do that.

Thing is, I don't think he gives a crap. If he did, he'd be trying a little harder to keep us updated, etc, because he should know from all this, and from other customizer's situations on this board that we are a very forgiving bunch if you just keep us in the loop. However, he's not doing that at all, and is ignoring us completely. It's very obvious he looks down on us, and does not give our commissions any hint of priority because he is "Mr. Important Sculptor". Those of you that want us all to just shut up and hope for the best in hopes that it will satiate him and get your heads to you are fooling yourselves. You are a lot more likely to get something if you make some noise. I know you want your headsculpts, but playing "see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil" is just giving him all the leeway he wants to go on about his business and ignore you. What has that attitude gotten any of you so far? One head to the one person that made the most noise, that's it. Time to start facing reality.

I don't think anyone is saying to shut up, by all means do what you need to do to get your stuff back (within limits of course) but I don't think we need to hear over and over again complaining about it here. We know the situation is messed up but do we need post after post about?

I already am facing reality, I am out about $100. I emailed him twice now and no response. It was the risk I took in the beginning. I am certainly gonna waste more time contacting a lawyer or whatever over $100. OF COURSE I want my money back but in the end it is what it is. I just know I won't be doing business with him anymore.

 

[The Drizzle]

I don't think anyone is saying to shut up, by all means do what you need to do to get your stuff back (within limits of course) but I don't think we need to hear over and over again complaining about it here. We know the situation is messed up but do we need post after post about?

In this particular thread, yes, I think we do. I think we need to stay current, and stay on top of this. Do we need to post anything in other threads and sections? No. Those threads are for other topics. But here in the "Chris Howes' Sculptural Creations" thread, it is very pertinent, and very topical to keep everyone else updated on all we have tried to do to get something out of him, and join together as a team to try and right this.

I already am facing reality, I am out about $100. I emailed him twice now and no response. It was the risk I took in the beginning. I am certainly gonna waste more time contacting a lawyer or whatever over $100. OF COURSE I want my money back but in the end it is what it is. I just know I won't be doing business with him anymore.

I guess your money doesn't mean as much to you. I'm only out $45, but that is a lot of money for me, and would buy a lot of groceries right now, rather than sit in Chris Howes' pocket waiting to be spent on god-knows-what. Of course I wouldn't waste time hiring a lawyer over such a trivial amount, because there are free ways to help us with our plight, that will probably be more effective than a legal threat letter. When the Cincinatti PD and the FBI Internet Fraud division starts having a complaint file build up against him, he will have to face authority. that's a scary prospect for anybody. He best get to updating those of you that still want the heads, and refund those who don't. You guys sitting around quietly hoping for the best, or accepting your money is lost just enable him to take from even more people.

 

[Something Sexy]

In this particular thread, yes, I think we do. I think we need to stay current, and stay on top of this. Do we need to post anything in other threads and sections? No. Those threads are for other topics. But here in the "Chris Howes' Sculptural Creations" thread, it is very pertinent, and very topical to keep everyone else updated on all we have tried to do to get something out of him, and join together as a team to try and right this.

I agree we should be updating this but with actual pertinent information. Like any updates from emails we get from Chris or any info regarding who to contact if you want to take legal information. Not countless post over and over (kind of like what we are doing) ^^^^^ing and complaining about it.

I guess your money doesn't mean as much to you. I'm only out $45, but that is a lot of money for me, and would buy a lot of groceries right now, rather than sit in Chris Howes' pocket waiting to be spent on god-knows-what. Of course I wouldn't waste time hiring a lawyer over such a trivial amount, because there are free ways to help us with our plight, that will probably be more effective than a legal threat letter. When the Cincinatti PD and the FBI Internet Fraud division starts having a complaint file build up against him, he will have to face authority. that's a scary prospect for anybody. He best get to updating those of you that still want the heads, and refund those who don't, and sitting around quietly hoping for the best, or accepting your money is gone just enable him to take from even more people.

I not saying you should sit around and wait for something to happen, I mentioned before calling the POLICE is a good thing. I was referring to the talk about contacting his work or his family or harassing him through phone calls. You should NOT be doing those things.

 

[6joker9]

Dam i thought this guy was ok, his bale head sculpt wasnt my cup of tea bt was hoping he would do a great jack nicholson/torrance, bt nw he is a thief runin of with peoples money living la vida loca, this guy sux!

 

[The Drizzle]

I not saying you should sit around and wait for something to happen, I mentioned before calling the POLICE is a good thing. I was referring to the talk about contacting his work or his family or harassing him through phone calls. You should NOT be doing those things.

I agree no one should resort to harassment. Ever. However, I do think this thread is the place to air our grievances and keep up-to-date with his progress or lack thereof, since the other thread was closed by bozos posting funny pictures. I want people to know I have now emailed him 6 times, and even used the "Hello" subject line he asks for. If we didn't air this out online, no one would have realized the broad scope of how many people he has taken advantage of. This info has to stay current, this discussion ongoing, so he is not allowed to just quietly disappear with our money.