superboink
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Is he yelling at an extra or a co-star? lol OMG! I hope this in the extras when the DVD finally comes out.
Christian Bale freaking out on the DP on set of Terminator Salvation!
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Shropt
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Like Bale or not, that DP just lost a hell of a lot of money over this screw up.
The DP walked on set, IN SCENE, a SECOND time for Bale to go off on him. That is just stupid for anyone, especially a Director of Photography, to do on set.
This was supposed to be a 3-picture deal and that DP will not be working on the 2nd or 3rd pic. What an idiot.
The DP walked on set, IN SCENE, a SECOND time for Bale to go off on him. That is just stupid for anyone, especially a Director of Photography, to do on set.
This was supposed to be a 3-picture deal and that DP will not be working on the 2nd or 3rd pic. What an idiot.
p!tu
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My thought exactly. How can you do that 2 ^^^^ing time in a row!! no even that...How much money was wasted those 2 time he ^^^^ed up the Shot!!
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So every allowance should be made to for Bale's tantrum since we don't know the details, but we can assume the DP was completely incompetent based on Bale's tantrum? Maybe we should give the benefit of the doubt to the person who's NOT deliberately trying to humiliate and physically threatening someone else.
Takes get ruined all the time. Often by actors. That's where gag reels come from.
Takes get ruined all the time. Often by actors. That's where gag reels come from.
scubasteve
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This makes Bale one thousand times more awesome, in my opinion.
noisetrigger
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Ok guys, I feel the need to speak in defense of the crew here since I guess I am the only one posting here that actually makes a living as a film and TV crew (I am in the camera and lighting department) full time doing ACTUAL TV dramas or movies.
Yes, Bale might be having a hard day but do not for even a second try to assume that he is the only one having a hard day. The hardest working bunch of people are those you never see on screen.
The hours we have to work, the amount of heavy lifting, and the extremely high risk of personal safety for the technical crew (insurance companies put us in the same risk category as being a cop mind you), it's a life that only a few will choose.
Now, we do not know the full scope of the situation but this is my take, I wager that the DP was only making adjustment outside the frame, he didn't actually walk into the middle of the frame like most assumed here.
It is also very likely that the DP did this during a "keep rolling" situation where the director will do another take without actually cutting the cameras to maintain momentum and it is during this time that the DP might want to make a quick adjustment to the lighting (most of the time is because the actor misses his/her mark or did not stop at the proper position where the lights are the most optimal for his/her face).
It is also not weird to make minor adjustment during a long take. Rather than restarting the whole long scene because of something that is a minor fix, it is better to make a quick adjustment on the fly in the middle of the take so you still can use the rest of the take. The thing with shooting is that you don't use the whole take of a shot most of the time. You will intercut with other angles. When it comes to the less than optimal part, the editor will just cut away to another angle.
Mind you, I dare say this must be something really minor and doesn't affects Bale directly at all. If it was something really major, the DP would have told the director about it and he would have yelled 'CUT'. The fact that the DP actually did that means the director has no problem with it.
I worked with an actor recently that accuses me of ruining her take because I was being professional. I was doing sound recording that time and I had to stop the camera multiple times because of unbearable environmental noise that I know for a FACT will be rejected during post and will need a reshoot or a redub.
The actor complaint to the director multiple times about this and I told the director straight to the face, "I can choose to be sloppy and let you guys fix the mess yourself or I can be professional so you guys won't have any problem later".
The director supported my stand the the actor shut her mouth after that.
I mean, look at it this way, a few extra take and no one will be calling you a bad actor. One bad sound recording that I approved and everyone will be calling me unprofessional.
Same with the DP, one bad lighting or mistake in the scene and everyone will be saying he was being sloppy.
No one will see the bad take of Bale.
ps- DP means the Director of Photography and he is the head of the camera and lighting department. He is basically responsible for assiting the director in bringing his vision of the script to life. The DP is in a way the next most powerful person on the set after the Director.
Depending on the country, some DP operate their own camera (UK system) or some DP will have camera operators to do it (Hollywood system).
I do work as a DP in some smaller projects and I prefer to operate my own camera. It's more personal and much easier than trying to get another person to see what you have in your mind.
These two are MTV for two project I have shot for Singapore TV. One is a drama series, another telemovie. Probably not right up your alley but these two has been nominated for a few TV awards.
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Yes, Bale might be having a hard day but do not for even a second try to assume that he is the only one having a hard day. The hardest working bunch of people are those you never see on screen.
The hours we have to work, the amount of heavy lifting, and the extremely high risk of personal safety for the technical crew (insurance companies put us in the same risk category as being a cop mind you), it's a life that only a few will choose.
Now, we do not know the full scope of the situation but this is my take, I wager that the DP was only making adjustment outside the frame, he didn't actually walk into the middle of the frame like most assumed here.
It is also very likely that the DP did this during a "keep rolling" situation where the director will do another take without actually cutting the cameras to maintain momentum and it is during this time that the DP might want to make a quick adjustment to the lighting (most of the time is because the actor misses his/her mark or did not stop at the proper position where the lights are the most optimal for his/her face).
It is also not weird to make minor adjustment during a long take. Rather than restarting the whole long scene because of something that is a minor fix, it is better to make a quick adjustment on the fly in the middle of the take so you still can use the rest of the take. The thing with shooting is that you don't use the whole take of a shot most of the time. You will intercut with other angles. When it comes to the less than optimal part, the editor will just cut away to another angle.
Mind you, I dare say this must be something really minor and doesn't affects Bale directly at all. If it was something really major, the DP would have told the director about it and he would have yelled 'CUT'. The fact that the DP actually did that means the director has no problem with it.
I worked with an actor recently that accuses me of ruining her take because I was being professional. I was doing sound recording that time and I had to stop the camera multiple times because of unbearable environmental noise that I know for a FACT will be rejected during post and will need a reshoot or a redub.
The actor complaint to the director multiple times about this and I told the director straight to the face, "I can choose to be sloppy and let you guys fix the mess yourself or I can be professional so you guys won't have any problem later".
The director supported my stand the the actor shut her mouth after that.
I mean, look at it this way, a few extra take and no one will be calling you a bad actor. One bad sound recording that I approved and everyone will be calling me unprofessional.
Same with the DP, one bad lighting or mistake in the scene and everyone will be saying he was being sloppy.
No one will see the bad take of Bale.
ps- DP means the Director of Photography and he is the head of the camera and lighting department. He is basically responsible for assiting the director in bringing his vision of the script to life. The DP is in a way the next most powerful person on the set after the Director.
Depending on the country, some DP operate their own camera (UK system) or some DP will have camera operators to do it (Hollywood system).
I do work as a DP in some smaller projects and I prefer to operate my own camera. It's more personal and much easier than trying to get another person to see what you have in your mind.
These two are MTV for two project I have shot for Singapore TV. One is a drama series, another telemovie. Probably not right up your alley but these two has been nominated for a few TV awards.
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jye4ever
Broke and happy
True that...
As much as I believe that Bale took things a tad too far...that DP's reputation is in the toilet and he pretty much deserved what he sewn that day ...
unless the movie comes out and he wins an oscar for DP then he can curse Bale out....
"Film execs sent the tape to the insurance company that insured the film in case Bale bailed."
So are the film execs releasing this now becasue bale has bailed or what?
So are the film execs releasing this now becasue bale has bailed or what?
Voorhees27
Super Freak
I don't think some of you realize how bad this will hurt his repuatation, its not some small time outbreak that will pass. The clip was played here in Edmonton on the local radio for crying out loud. Christian Bale will be effected by this don't kid yourselves.
Its leaked BIG TIME!
Its leaked BIG TIME!
Heard it on my local morning show too. The crap has hit the fan.
Gotta love the internetz.
Gotta love the internetz.
scubasteve
Super Freak
I highly doubt this will have any effect at all, actually. Look at the incident with his mother; it died out within a week or two. There are far more important things to discuss, like Jessica Simpson's weight gain and its effect on our country.
Voorhees27
Super Freak
I'm not saying that this topic has any significance to really anyone or anything here i'm just saying to all that deemed this "not a big deal"
Well it is. If I was his agent I would be concerned.
thamesvalidude
Super Freak
The man may be a good batman but as a human being he sounds like an absolute ^^^^^^^. Oh dear someone messed up the scene......as Sir Larry Olivier once said to Dustin Hoffman on hearing that he had spent months researching his part in the "method actor" manner:
"Learn to act, dear boy, learn to act!"
Maybe Mr Bale should learn to act and then he'd not be blown off stage by his support and maybe he should learn some humility at the same time.
"Learn to act, dear boy, learn to act!"
Maybe Mr Bale should learn to act and then he'd not be blown off stage by his support and maybe he should learn some humility at the same time.
Hey! You edited your post? Why?
Because......
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Voorhees27
Super Freak
Because......
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Huh?
I love that video. Especially the part where the old muppet dies and then you see his ghost outside the window. When I was a kid that always made me sad. 
If the Photography guy was any kind of man, he would have just punched Bale in the face and left it at that.
Nobody talks to another man like that unless they expect to fight, or they know they are a prole who will take it.
Nobody talks to another man like that unless they expect to fight, or they know they are a prole who will take it.
Right. A "man" would punch the guy and possibly loose his means of providing for his family.
I love how the internets allows us all to make believe we are John Wayne.
I love how the internets allows us all to make believe we are John Wayne.
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