David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"

[Victοr]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Dream on! He's too big for Netflix. Besides, he'd be perfect for a Joker reboot. SS did a disservice to the character and I think Gyllenhaal in a Affleck film would be great. He was so good in Nightcrawler.

I don't care dammit! Gyllenhaal can be the perfect Moon Knight, mostly because he's so good with diverse roles. See, the thing about Moon Knight, at least the later versions, is how fast he goes from a confused wacko to full-on rage mode.

During his first issues, he simply used the various identities, but as time went on, giving him DiD made him more unique, so they stuck with that. Either way, the staple of the character is that he changes moods, expressions, tones very fast, and it's something I can see Gyllenhaal do. And besides, if Kevin Spacey can do a Netflix series, and McConaughey, Farell and Harrelson can do HBO stuff, I don't see why Jake can't do it. He's not Brad Pitt, and from his interviews, he never thought himself up there with guys like Affleck (he still calls him Mr. Affleck), so if he found the role interesting, I don't him passing on it. It's not like stuff such as Enemy pay more, since that was an indie-flick.

As for the Joker, while I do think he'd nail it, I think Leto deserves another shot in a more serious movie, namely the Batffleck film. He's a good actor who got dealt a bad hand, and honestly, it was this whle "cray-cray campaign" that hurt his reception the most. The made a huge deal out of it, when in reality it wasn't such a big role, performance issues aside. But, if they were to replace him, I agree that Gyllenhaal could play a pretty darn good Joker...

And while he's already Magneto, Fassbender could be a brilliant Joker as well. And he could bring that melancholic side of the Joker, like he did in Shame.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Jared has earned a few more Joker movies, let him act.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Jared has earned a few more movies, let him act.

Exactly. Let's see what he can do front and center.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

If given the opportunity and proper material (ie; writing) he has the skill set to be as memorable as Nicholson and Ledger.

Ledger's death didn't ruin the character forever, it only ruined TDKR.

Man I love stirring **** up.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)



I never understood why Nolan couldn't at least give us a glimpse of his cell when bane broke the prisoners out. that would have been a really cool nod.

IMO he's already set his status in film as a great Joker, even with the little bit we've seen of him. he's really there to flesh out Harley's character for the most part, and be a bad ass wild card at the same time. perfect use for this character in this film.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

As for the Joker, while I do think he'd nail it, I think Leto deserves another shot in a more serious movie, namely the Batffleck film. He's a good actor who got dealt a bad hand, and honestly, it was this whle "cray-cray campaign" that hurt his reception the most. The made a huge deal out of it, when in reality it wasn't such a big role, performance issues aside. But, if they were to replace him, I agree that Gyllenhaal could play a pretty darn good Joker...

And while he's already Magneto, Fassbender could be a brilliant Joker as well. And he could bring that melancholic side of the Joker, like he did in Shame.

Leto is tainted for me. I like a few of his scenes...but the moment the film said Harley is crazier and more fearless than Joker. He was dead. Then, his whole role is being obsess with Harley and him going out of his way to risk his life to save her....WTF? Joker would NEVER risk his life for Harley.

The worst part was the, "they became the King and Queen of Gotham" as if they were equals or partners in crime. A few scenes can't save him for me. His voice was pretty terrible at times...and that has nothing to do with a bad script. The scene in the helicopter when he tells the professor to hurry up was terrible. I couldn't believe how bad he sounded. At this point I don't mind a SS2 and if they want to make a Harley movie for her fans, great. But as far as Joker goes, give me a complete reboot and leave Harley the **** out the Batman film.

I could see Fassbender in the role. There are plenty of actors who can do a better job than Leto, imo.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Man their relationship really messed with your head didn't it.

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Gyllenhaal as Moon Knight? No thanks. I want an unknown for him.

Plus he's too big for Netflix.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Man their relationship really messed with your head didn't it.

It almost ruins the film. Will Smith and his Smithiness saves it like Jordan in the fourth quarter.

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I could see Fassbender in the role. There are plenty of actors who can do a better job than Leto, imo.

I'd be down for a Fassoker or Jokbender. That'd be amazing!

 

[Victοr]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Leto is tainted for me. I like a few of his scenes...but the moment the film said Harley is crazier and more fearless than Joker. He was dead. Then, his whole role is being obsess with Harley and him going out of his way to risk his life to save her....WTF? The worst part was the, "they became the King and Queen of Gotham" part. A few scenes can't save him for me. His voice was pretty terrible at times...and that has nothing to do with a bad script. At this point I don't mind a SS2 and if they want to make a Harley movie for her fans, great. But as far as Joker goes, give me a complete reboot and leave Harley the **** out the Batman film.

Well, I can't comment on that since the film hasn't arrived here yet, but the cray-cray campaign turned me off his Joker a loooong while ago. Now, I'll have to see him for myself, but I'm not expecting much from this flick. It might just be my distaste for such a version though. For me, the Joker never was about needless brutality, he was mostly about... style. When writers try to turn him into such a gruesome character, he loses his appeal.

While Carnage was basically a Joker and Venom mash-up, I always liked the distinction between them. Whereas Joker would go to extreme and bombastic lengths to prove his point, he was a rather playful character. He was funny, he had a flair around him, he was a serial killer you enjoyed watching. He was still cruel and evil, but he had... a charm. In contrast, Carnage was only interested in killing folks, that's it. He would hang with cultists, Elder Gods and just get off by killing mothers, children, even babies, often in very, very gruesome ways.

So, when Letoker became a mix between the two, I struggled to see him as Joker. I'd give them a thumbs up if they went full-on psycho, but as it stands, he's not my preffered version. But I still think he can churn out a good performance if the script is better next time around. If they don't want to do "campy Joker", I say go Death of the Family:

I could see Fassbender in the role. There are plenty of actors who can do a better job than Leto, imo.

Eh, I'd wait a bit before reaching towards a definite conclusion. But from all the interviews, Leto is very dissapointed, so I could see him even passing on another movie if the script is not great, or if he's not guaranteed to not have his scenes pulled.

 

[Victοr]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Gyllenhaal as Moon Knight? No thanks. I want an unknown for him.

Plus he's too big for Netflix.

Why do you have to ruin my dreams? I don't know, I think he's a good actor and I'd like to see him in a CBM, and MK is the one character I think he could nail. Then again, I do think he'd make for a dang good Carnage, depending on the take. As for being too big, eh, as I said, Spacey is doing HoC, and lots of other big names have done TV/NF stuff.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Leto is tainted for me. I like a few of his scenes...but the moment the film said Harley is crazier and more fearless than Joker. He was dead. Then, his whole role is being obsess with Harley and him going out of his way to risk his life to save her....WTF? Joker would NEVER risk his life for Harley.

The worst part was the, "they became the King and Queen of Gotham" as if they were equals or partners in crime. A few scenes can't save him for me. His voice was pretty terrible at times...and that has nothing to do with a bad script. The scene in the helicopter when he tells the professor to hurry up was terrible. I couldn't believe how bad he sounded. At this point I don't mind a SS2 and if they want to make a Harley movie for her fans, great. But as far as Joker goes, give me a complete reboot and leave Harley the **** out the Batman film.

I could see Fassbender in the role. There are plenty of actors who can do a better job than Leto, imo.

Get comfortable then, because it's going to be a while.

Waller saying she's crazier and more fearsome is part of her reasoning to win over the board. They are king and queen of gotham. Joker being the king, who has power over the queen. so this makes sense as well.

fassbender being the joker could work, but not in this world.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Clown is just pissed because the peeing scene wasn't used.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Hire both of them then have three Jokers (Leto, Gyllenhaal and Fassbender).


That's what the comics are doing now. There are supposedly three Jokers. The golden age, silver age and modern age.

 

[Victοr]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Hire both of them then have three Jokers (Leto, Gyllenhaal and Fassbender).


That's what the comics are doing now. There are supposedly three Jokers. The golden age, silver age and modern age.



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Well, it hasn't been confirmed who the 3 Jokers are yet. Theories going around are saying that one of them is the Comedian though.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

The Watchmen Comedian!? Wat

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Clown is just pissed because the peeing scene wasn't used.

 

[Shawpaw]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Jake gyllenhaal would have made an outstanding Joker. He's really done some good work over past few years.

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Jake gyllenhaal would have made an outstanding Joker. He's really done some good work over past few years.

Brokeback would come full circle.