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[RagingBull]

If I lived in the States I would of definitely bought the Ex, why not
Its only because I live in Europe that I didn't (customs charges etc)

Also have no plans of selling it so I don't care about the after market prices & the reg head is awesome which I think people are forgetting.

I'm finally going to be getting comic Superman & Batman PF's now that's all that matters to me

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

Ohh yeah, I remember that like it was yesterday. That was the big crash which made comic worthless. I still wonder what happen? Was it the art that changed? If not what was it? I can see statues heading that way slowly too. Everything is too inflated in price.

Comics crashed because people thought they could treat them like stocks. Buying low and selling high. But the comic market works on Rarity of the books and historical value(first appearances, major story elements). So people in the 90's starting buying new comics in large numbers, making them rare at first and then trying to sell them at an inflated price months later. But there were millions of these books printed So the market couldn't handle the inflated prices. Once the consumers saw there were millions of so called "rare" books floating around no one wanted them, the prices dropped and all the "collectors" who were just buying books to make money left the market.

Once they left and only the actual readers were buying comic books again the companies got stuck with hundreds of thousands of copies of books that weren't sold. The market crashed, Marvel nearly went bankrupt. Shops closed. blah blah blah, you know the rest.

Collectibles are meant to be enjoyed. If a by-product of that enjoyment is having something that may be rare/valuable then that is great but secondary.

I'm a Batman collector, I have thousands of Batman books from 1962-2008 and I wouldn't sell them even though they're worth thousands. I don't collect things for value, but because I enjoy having them and in some cases showing them. I enjoy the art and the writing in the books and I love the history of the characters. It's a pop culture mythology that rivals some of the greatest stories in human history.

Or at least, in my opinion.

-End Rant

 

[RagingBull]

Comics crashed because people thought they could treat them like stocks. Buying low and selling high. But the comic market works on Rarity of the books and historical value(first appearances, major story elements). So people in the 90's starting buying new comics in large numbers, making them rare at first and then trying to sell them at an inflated price months later. But there were millions of these books printed So the market couldn't handle the inflated prices. Once the consumers saw there were millions of so called "rare" books floating around no one wanted them, the prices dropped and all the "collectors" who were just buying books to make money left the market.

Once they left and only the actual readers were buying comic books again the companies got stuck with hundreds of thousands of copies of books that weren't sold. The market crashed, Marvel nearly went bankrupt. Shops closed. blah blah blah, you know the rest.

Collectibles are meant to be enjoyed. If a by-product of that enjoyment is having something that may be rare/valuable then that is great but secondary.

I'm a Batman collector, I have thousands of Batman books from 1962-2008 and I wouldn't sell them even though they're worth thousands. I don't collect things for value, but because I enjoy having them and in some cases showing them. I enjoy the art and the writing in the books and I love the history of the characters. It's a pop culture mythology that rivals some of the greatest stories in human history.

Or at least, in my opinion.

-End Rant

Nice comment Josh. I actually read something in this thread worth reading

 

[mistermark]

Thanks man! I appreciate the encouragement, but I've held out this long without any temptation.

As far as SS definition of "exclusive" Josh is absolutely right and I know that but I miss the days of low ES Ex. It being low gave more incentive for collectors "like me" to go after the ex. Now I could care less. Hence the reason I haven't POed yet.

I agree with you 100%. But Spidey is right, I DID order the Ex. That's not to say I won't cancel if the ES is ridiculous. I cancelled my Batman Ex when the revealed the ES of 9500. Also, I hope they change teh Supes Ex which will give me incentive to keep him. If not, no worries, I can take my time and just buy statues selectively that are more rare and special TO ME. All good, like I say to each their own, but I agree with your opinion and it's how I feel as well. And I will never bother with open ES 'cause it's just not something I care for. I like to know the numbers a company produces. LMAO maybe it's my OCD

 

[RagingBull]

I agree with you 100%. But Spidey is right, I DID order the Ex. That's not to say I won't cancel if the ES is ridiculous. I cancelled my Batman Ex when the revealed the ES of 9500. Also, I hope they change teh Supes Ex which will give me incentive to keep him. If not, no worries, I can take my time and just buy statues selectively that are more rare and special TO ME. All good, like I say to each their own, but I agree with your opinion and it's how I feel as well.

You might as well cancel Supes now if you don't want it with a high ES. It clearly has unfortunately

 

[mistermark]

You might as well cancel Supes now if you don't want it with a high ES. It clearly has unfortunately

I will wait and see. I'm not bothered by a total reasonable ES of 5000-6000 in total for the EX and Reg together, he is Supes after all, but if they flooded the market and made 9500 again like Bats I would cancel. Just not urgent to buy him and mark my words that statue will be $200 on ebay soon enough if they make that many. THAT's when I would pick Supes up. Again, to each their own. I wish I didn't care about ES but it drives me nuts lol.

 

[RagingBull]

I will wait and see. I'm not bothered by a total reasonable ES of 5000-6000 in total for the EX and Reg together, he is Supes after all, but if they flooded the market and made 9500 again like Bats I would cancel. Just not urgent to buy him and mark my words that statue will be $200 on ebay soon enough if they make that many. THAT's when I would pick Supes up. Again, to each their own. I wish I didn't care about ES but it drives me nuts lol.

Yeah I know what your saying. I don't know if would prefer SS to not write 7500 on my Batman base or just leave it blank & not tell us the ES like what HT does

 

[MasterSafara]

I don't combine the Ex and the reg. If people are looking for Ex there's only 2000 Bats for example. Not 9500. That's just the way I look at it.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

Nice comment Josh. I actually read something in this thread worth reading

 

[Sithlord1975]

I have to say this thread has taken an odd turn.

I know I am new here, but I have to chime in on a couple of points.

Superman (and Batman) are Badass! These are Epic statues! At no point were these going to be low run items. It is Supes 75th Anniversary and he has a picture coming out this year! It boggles my mind that anyone would think they wouldn't make as many of these as they could sell. That said, because these are such significant pieces, you better believe you are going to get a quality piece! This is a piece that you will regret not owning of you are not one of the 10k (+) lucky ones. This is a good thing!

You know what makes your lower run collectible more valuable? People that want/value them. Pieces like Supes/Batman bring new collectors into the fold who then appreciate/desire the stuff you have even more.

Such big hits also allow SS to continue delivering the low run stuff with such great quality. You really think there were thousands of people clamoring for an Elvira, Lady Death or Vampirella (all excellent).

A month ago I didn't know what a SS was, the difference between a PF and a Statue, how big a 1/4 was, or that there was a use for an Ikea Besta.

I have been a collector all my life. I buy original comic art, commissions, Rare Golden Age books, but had never bought a statue/PF/Dio/Bust/Comiquette in my life. The only action figures I own(ed) were of the original Star Wars/Battle Star variety and long gone.

This amazing Supes PF changed that. I know I wont hold it for a year most likely, but couldn't wait to get in line and put down a deposit. That feeling has caused me to read up on this hobby and educate myself (I know the issues with Rogue, Spider Woman) and can now say I appreciate the work of Tim Miller.

I have four statues on order, and will be adding 1 HT and 3 more next month. That is why it doesn't matter how many they make. What matters is that the end product is incredible and people that never gave this hobby a second glance become passionate collectors themselves.

 

[JAWS]

I use to not care about the number. I still don't really. As long as the final product is great.

But I won't lie. Now that I have the amazing Avengers Hulk in hand, there is a side of me that wishes they would put an ES on it. Not so that the value goes up or anything. Just so it becomes a bit more unique.

I say this because I think that it should feel more special to own one because it's a Legacy Effects / SSC statue. But since there is no number and that they made it thin and light, you get a piece that could be somewhat improved, In my mind anyways, by a ES number. Instead we end up paying for just the Legacy name.

Again it has nothing to do with Value. I have made good money of statues and I have lost money on statues. I just want the best representation of the character. But there is something cool and exclusive about feeling that you are 1 in 500 to own something.

As Far as the Superman ES goes. I hope the number for the ES is around Batman's number just for unique value. But as long as it comes out great and I end up being happy with the EX head (flames or not) then I can handle a 10,000 ES.

 

[JAWS]

Comics crashed because people thought they could treat them like stocks. Buying low and selling high. But the comic market works on Rarity of the books and historical value(first appearances, major story elements). So people in the 90's starting buying new comics in large numbers, making them rare at first and then trying to sell them at an inflated price months later. But there were millions of these books printed So the market couldn't handle the inflated prices. Once the consumers saw there were millions of so called "rare" books floating around no one wanted them, the prices dropped and all the "collectors" who were just buying books to make money left the market.

Once they left and only the actual readers were buying comic books again the companies got stuck with hundreds of thousands of copies of books that weren't sold. The market crashed, Marvel nearly went bankrupt. Shops closed. blah blah blah, you know the rest.

Collectibles are meant to be enjoyed. If a by-product of that enjoyment is having something that may be rare/valuable then that is great but secondary.

I'm a Batman collector, I have thousands of Batman books from 1962-2008 and I wouldn't sell them even though they're worth thousands. I don't collect things for value, but because I enjoy having them and in some cases showing them. I enjoy the art and the writing in the books and I love the history of the characters. It's a pop culture mythology that rivals some of the greatest stories in human history.

Or at least, in my opinion.

-End Rant

Yeah that was a great read.

 

[Spidey976]

I use to not care about the number. I still don't really. As long as the final product is great.

But I won't lie. Now that I have the amazing Avengers Hulk in hand, there is a side of me that wishes they would put an ES on it. Not so that the value goes up or anything. Just so it becomes a bit more unique.

I say this because I think that it should feel more special to own one because it's a Legacy Effects / SSC statue. But since there is no number and that they made it thin and light, you get a piece that could be somewhat improved, In my mind anyways, by a ES number. Instead we end up paying for just the Legacy name.

Again it has nothing to do with Value. I have made good money of statues and I have lost money on statues. I just want the best representation of the character. But there is something cool and exclusive about feeling that you are 1 in 500 to own something.

As Far as the Superman ES goes. I hope the number for the ES is around Batman's number just for unique value. But as long as it comes out great and I end up being happy with the EX head (flames or not) then I can handle a 10,000 ES.

When you first see that Ex head in hand you are going to be like

And I'll be like

 

[comicbookguy]

I use to not care about the number. I still don't really. As long as the final product is great.

But I won't lie. Now that I have the amazing Avengers Hulk in hand, there is a side of me that wishes they would put an ES on it. Not so that the value goes up or anything. Just so it becomes a bit more unique.

I say this because I think that it should feel more special to own one because it's a Legacy Effects / SSC statue. But since there is no number and that they made it thin and light, you get a piece that could be somewhat improved, In my mind anyways, by a ES number. Instead we end up paying for just the Legacy name.

Again it has nothing to do with Value. I have made good money of statues and I have lost money on statues. I just want the best representation of the character. But there is something cool and exclusive about feeling that you are 1 in 500 to own something.

As Far as the Superman ES goes. I hope the number for the ES is around Batman's number just for unique value. But as long as it comes out great and I end up being happy with the EX head (flames or not) then I can handle a 10,000 ES.

wow still not sold out.... Lol batman was 4 days and how long has this been? Why can't SS just make both sides happy? I mean the ex could be a decent ES and the reg can be 1 billion. Instead they are going all out on both. Is that too much to ask for?

 

[Spidey976]

Yeah that was a great read.

**** DUDE CBG is agreeing with you....

 

[comicbookguy]

**** DUDE CBG is agreeing with you....

I give up on the low ES, now my only hope is if there is a ES such as bats anymore. Pretty sad for collectors who wants a more special statue.

 

[JAWS]

**** DUDE CBG is agreeing with you....

All I now is that I am happy that you keeping sending Supernatural gifs my way! Best show on the tube

 

[Spidey976]

All I now is that I am happy that you keeping sending Supernatural gifs my way! Best show on the tube

Lol... I love it myself

As for your thoughts on the Ex

Sorry I am kidding, but I needed another reason for the gif...lol

 

[Spidey976]

Just because here are some crappy blown up images of the Reg head...lol iPad doesn't blow up pics well.

 

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