DC Direct doing Batman The Animated Series figures!!!!!

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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Dr Voltz are higher than retail.



Bought only Batman from Arkham, not a fan of the rest of the line. But what's a complete Arkham line? How many figures? And you guys must have short memories from all the lines DC Direct started and stopped. I was always disappointed in the different lines not being completed. There is no way this BTAS line will be completed at that price which is $5.00 more than the Arkham Batman I bought at $19.99. There's a whole mess of figures to made to complete a BTAS line.

I've always been a cherry picker with DC Direct. One of my favorite lines was the first appearance figures, and they never finished it. Fortunately, I only wanted Superman cloth cape version (what a gorgeous figure). Anyway, as long as they make the core characters from BTAS, there's no need to have EVERY single character, which honestly, I don't see it happening. If we get Batman,Robin, Joker, Harley, Poison Ivy. Two Face, Ridler, Penguin, Catwoman, and ScareCrow. I'm happy. And they could easily do them all if they weren't wasting their time on TNBA versions. The first wave has 3 (TNBA) AND ONLY 1(BTAS). SHAME ON THEM for doing that.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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I think ALL of the BTAS/TNBA look better black with green highlights. When I used to have the maquette you posted above, I had painted his hair in that scheme and it looked much, much better. I can't find any old pics. This one's custom:

JESUS!! That thing scared the hell out of me I was just posting a comment when suddenly I see this HUGE photo of the JL Joker with a crazy smile That's actually my favorite design of the Bruce Timm Joker, and that statue looks gorgeous. I agree, black looks better.

 

[buzzybean]

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I've always been a cherry picker with DC Direct. One of my favorite lines was the first appearance figures, and they never finished it. Fortunately, I only wanted Superman cloth cape version (what a gorgeous figure). Anyway, as long as they make the core characters from BTAS, there's no need to have EVERY single character, which honestly, I don't see it happening. If we get Batman,Robin, Joker, Harley, Poison Ivy. Two Face, Ridler, Penguin, Catwoman, and ScareCrow. I'm happy. And they could easily do them all if they weren't wasting their time on TNBA versions. The first wave has 3 (TNBA) AND ONLY 1(BTAS). SHAME ON THEM for doing that.

We never got a Pérez Wonder Woman from "History of...", never got the other Super Friends, Flash was missing from another set, had to join a club if you wanted a DCU Poison Ivy, etc. I'm not interest in the TNBA either as I like the original designs from BTAS. I own a bunch of original Bruce Timm art so I am a big fan of his style and would be interested in this line but not at this price.

 

[DiFabio]

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At $25 bucks a pop and roughly 4 figures a year, I doubt it'll be as flourishing as the Arkham line. People can talk a big game but when it comes to characters like Mad Hatter, Baby Doll or even Killer Croc, etc. but I want to see them put their money where their mouth is. I bet even a small, Tim Drake Robin would be a tough sell at $25. Thing with me is, I pretty much love all the characters. Croc? The Ventriloquist w/ Scarface? Hell, the Grey Ghost? They're great. I just can't see there being enough interest in those kind of secondaries though. I know personally I would never touch characters like Clock King, Ra's, Talia, Red Claw so I don't expect a catalog anywhere near something like this,

Espeically with BTAS and TNBA clashing with each other as far as figure options go. What if they choose one over the other and don't do both? Then at $25 a POP? I mean, let's face it. Each Arkham wave thrives on atleast ONE Batman variant right? Asylum, Asylum Armored, City, Detective Vision, Bruce Unmasked, Damaged, Origins, etc. How many can you get with the Animated Series? 3 - 4 tops.


Me personally, I'd be fine with a humble "little" line of mains of three waves (I'd only buy BTAS),


- BTAS Catwoman
- BTAS Batman
- BTAS Robin
- BTAS Riddler

- BTAS Two-Face
- BTAS Penguin
- BTAS Joker
- BTAS Scarecrow

- BTAS Ivy
- BTAS Freeze
- BTAS Harley Quinn
- BTAS Clayface


Then whatever variants of Batman they'd sprinkle in there (Retro, Unmasked Wayne, HARDAC). If some of the slightly bigger characters were one off exclusives or boxed deluxe like Man-Bat, Bane and Croc, I'd bite. BTAS will probably be the more scarce ones though. I've got a feeling they're going to pump out as many TNBA as they can before we ever see any of the classics versions. That might be more of a relief for me considering that little wish list would be about $300.

 

[McHaleyArt]

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JESUS!! That thing scared the hell out of me I was just posting a comment when suddenly I see this HUGE photo of the JL Joker with a crazy smile That's actually my favorite design of the Bruce Timm Joker, and that statue looks gorgeous. I agree, black looks better.

Yeah...That's THE best design, I think. You probably know, this version of the Joker appeared in a flashback sequence in the movie: Batman Beyond Return of the Joker. The sequence (itself) plays like one of the best episodes from TNBA. If you haven't seen it, you're in for a treat.

 

[Maglor]

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Ventriloquist w/ Scarface is a grail for me.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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That might be more of a relief for me considering that little wish list would be about $300.

$300? So the price of a single HT figure Besides, $300 in what? 2 maybe 3 years is not too bad.

 

[batfan08]

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At $25 bucks a pop and roughly 4 figures a year, I doubt it'll be as flourishing as the Arkham line. People can talk a big game but when it comes to characters like Mad Hatter, Baby Doll or even Killer Croc, etc. but I want to see them put their money where their mouth is. I bet even a small, Tim Drake Robin would be a tough sell at $25. Thing with me is, I pretty much love all the characters. Croc? The Ventriloquist w/ Scarface? Hell, the Grey Ghost? They're great. I just can't see there being enough interest in those kind of secondaries though. I know personally I would never touch characters like Clock King, Ra's, Talia, Red Claw so I don't expect a catalog anywhere near something like this,

Espeically with BTAS and TNBA clashing with each other as far as figure options go. What if they choose one over the other and don't do both? Then at $25 a POP? I mean, let's face it. Each Arkham wave thrives on atleast ONE Batman variant right? Asylum, Asylum Armored, City, Detective Vision, Bruce Unmasked, Damaged, Origins, etc. How many can you get with the Animated Series? 3 - 4 tops.


Me personally, I'd be fine with a humble "little" line of mains of three waves (I'd only buy BTAS),


- BTAS Catwoman
- BTAS Batman
- BTAS Robin
- BTAS Riddler

- BTAS Two-Face
- BTAS Penguin
- BTAS Joker
- BTAS Scarecrow

- BTAS Ivy
- BTAS Freeze
- BTAS Harley Quinn
- BTAS Clayface


Then whatever variants of Batman they'd sprinkle in there (Retro, Unmasked Wayne, HARDAC). If some of the slightly bigger characters were one off exclusives or boxed deluxe like Man-Bat, Bane and Croc, I'd bite. BTAS will probably be the more scarce ones though. I've got a feeling they're going to pump out as many TNBA as they can before we ever see any of the classics versions. That might be more of a relief for me considering that little wish list would be about $300.

I get the 4 figures a year thing, but what I'm puzzled by is the fact that $25 a pop is a hard sell. I'm not talking about the market here, I'm just talking about the Arkham line. DC Entertainment has the Arkham Origins figures, as well as some of the Arkham City figures up for $25 a pop, and it's been that way for a long time. Do I think it's a good thing? No, but do I think it'll affect this line? Again, no, I don't, for the simple fact that $25 a pop isn't set in stone. Your comic shops will charge $25 bucks a pop, maybe a few dollars more, but online? I see these being in the same range as the Arkham figures in that regard, and, dare I say it, I think they will sell better. As much as I like Arkham, it's still kind of nichey. Don't get me wrong, these are nichey, too, but, as you brought up earlier, one thing they have that the Arkham line doesn't is the nostalgia factor.

At the end of the day, I see this being a big hit for DCC.

 

[DiFabio]

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Ventriloquist w/ Scarface is a grail for me.

Which one.

 

[batfan08]

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O.G. Scarface beats the hell out of the TNBA version, IMO.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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I don't know. Nostalgia is a powerful thing, but not everyone collects figures or are fans of an old 90's show. The Arkham games are new and very popular with adults and younger kids, so I wouldn't be surprised if those games had a bigger fan base right now. Interestingly, when I go on facebook and look at the toy/dc/collectible pages, I don't see a lot of people talking about these figures. The new 52 and the little batman lines seemed more popular, both based on new stuff, not 90's nostalgia

 

[DiFabio]

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I get the 4 figures a year thing, but what I'm puzzled by is the fact that $25 a pop is a hard sell. I'm not talking about the market here, I'm just talking about the Arkham line. DC Entertainment has the Arkham Origins figures, as well as some of the Arkham City figures up for $25 a pop, and it's been that way for a long time. Do I think it's a good thing? No, but do I think it'll affect this line? Again, no, I don't, for the simple fact that $25 a pop isn't set in stone. Your comic shops will charge $25 bucks a pop, maybe a few dollars more, but online? I see these being in the same range as the Arkham figures in that regard, and, dare I say it, I think they will sell better. As much as I like Arkham, it's still kind of nichey. Don't get me wrong, these are nichey, too, but, as you brought up earlier, one thing they have that the Arkham line doesn't is the nostalgia factor.

At the end of the day, I see this being a big hit for DCC.

Well, the article and announcement state the MSRP is $25 a pop. The Arkham games are far from over. They're much more current than a line of toys from a decades old animated series. Prices climb more and more every year. Then, we never know, they could pull some funny stuff with characters like Clayface, Man-Bat, Bane or Killer Croc that aren't even as big or intricate than their Arkham counterparts. You know, pricing them high just to do it. It wouldn't surprise me if they made BTAS Batman an expensive exclusive or something.

$25 bucks isn't a hard sell for say Batman. But a character like TNBA Robin? TNBA Riddler? Either of the Mad Hatters? Hell, looking at Catwoman so far makes $25 a bit hard to swallow, especially if she doesn't have a whip or accessories. People seem to be imaging this huge, sprawling line with all these characters. I don't personally see it happening. Besides, it's clear they're going to space out the characters in BS ways. If the trend continues, it'll be 3 TNBA to every 1 BTAS where they try and sell the revamped designs first.

 

[buzzybean]

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I paid $58 for my 1/4 scale Neca Adam West Batman and if I was a bit more patient could have paid the same $58 for the 1/4 scale Keaton. That's a huge hunk of cool plastic for just over double what Mattel wants for one of these 6" figures. And I realize Neca's 1/4 figures retailed at $80 but that's like three of these 6" figures and it still isn't even anywhere close to the same value.

 

[batfan08]

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Well, the article and announcement state the MSRP is $25 a pop. The Arkham games are far from over. They're much more current than a line of toys from a decades old animated series. Prices climb more and more every year. Then, we never know, they could pull some funny stuff with characters like Clayface, Man-Bat, Bane or Killer Croc that aren't even as big or intricate than their Arkham counterparts. You know, pricing them high just to do it. It wouldn't surprise me if they made BTAS Batman an expensive exclusive or something.

$25 bucks isn't a hard sell for say Batman. But a character like TNBA Robin? TNBA Riddler? Either of the Mad Hatters? Hell, looking at Catwoman so far makes $25 a bit hard to swallow, especially if she doesn't have a whip or accessories. People seem to be imaging this huge, sprawling line with all these characters. I don't personally see it happening. Besides, it's clear they're going to space out the characters in BS ways. If the trend continues, it'll be 3 TNBA to every 1 BTAS where they try and sell the revamped designs first.

No, I'm not arguing that the price is $25, I'm just saying, so are the Arkham figures. I love the Arkham games, but I think that they owe a large part of their popularity to the aforementioned nostalgia factor. I'm not saying that without Conroy, or Hamill, or Dini, they wouldn't have been great games, but that was their draw. Batman had a notorious history with video games, and I think that sense of familiarity is one of the reasons why even the most skeptical of fans accepted them with open arms.

As far as the toys go, I'd be willing to wager that a lot of those people are the reason the toy line is still going. There are your gamers, and your Batman fans who like the character designs, but, taking the gamers for instance, I doubt that they made up a huge portion of the market for the Arkham figures for the simple fact that it's not their main hobby. Gamers will probably put more money into games than toys. The Batman fans, for instance, are probably going after the ones that are the most universally applicable. They probably aren't going to go for tiny head Bane or Biker Harley. At the end of the day, the people who buy the Arkham toys are the hardcore Arkham fans, and, maybe I'm wrong, but if bet that a lot of their love came from a love of The Animated Series, and a connection between the two.

Long story short, I can see this line reaching a lot of those people. Plus, there are those who don't play video games who are hardcore Batman fans, and then you've got your guys who think that TAS is the end all be all of Batman.

 

[batfan08]

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I paid $58 for my 1/4 scale Neca Adam West Batman and if I was a bit more patient could have paid the same $58 for the 1/4 scale Keaton. That's a huge hunk of cool plastic for just over double what Mattel wants for one of these 6" figures. And I realize Neca's 1/4 figures retailed at $80 but that's like three of these 6" figures and it still isn't even anywhere close to the same value.

These aren't Mattel, they're DC Collectibles, and I agree $50 for 2 figures is a lot of money, but how about $60 for 3? The Capullo Batman figures have the same MSRP as these, but I've seen them going for around $20.

 

[Buttmunch]

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Yeah, I definitely contribute part of Arkham's success is the Animated Series connection. So in turn, I can't see these being any less successful than Arkham, perhaps even more so. As long as they match the source material (and so far we are 2 for 2) I don't see them NOT doing well. I think they'd do better sticking with the original designs first before moving on to the new ones, but I'm happy to get either. I like both designs. Some were better (Scarecrow), some were worse (Joker), and some were about the same (Two-face).

 

[Mike86]

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Multiple waves doesn't mean a complete set. Blackest Night was a bomb with many figures ending up in the discount bins. If they did indeed complete that line they chose the wrong one!

I didn't say we got a complete set from every line they did but they gave us a pretty extensive selection of characters from a lot of big arcs. Not every line is going to get each and every character made obviously. Plus I don't see how the Blackest Night line was a bomb when they kept on making them for a long time. If the line was such a bomb I would think they'd have cancelled it after one or maybe two but there were eight waves of figures. How that is a bomb is either beyond me or DC Direct/DC Collectibles didn't care that they were losing money on the line.

As far as the Batman: The Animated Series line goes. At this point know knows how many waves we'll get. I hope it's at least enough to get us the core characters and maybe some of the more obscure ones. All I know is I'll try and get as many as they put out.

 

[Silrian]

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I've been wanting the original TAS Batman action figure since I was 5 years old... If this line actually happens, akin to catwoman, I'm gonna freak out like a manchild beyond belief.

 

[PharOOO]

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While I agree that $25 is steep, I look at the alternative.

1) I could have no company making anything Batman The Animated Series figures.

2) If a company did acquire the rights, thank the Toys Deity that it wasn't Mattel. We'd end up with cheaply cast figures using the same base body over and over again. We'd need to pay $30 each plus high shipping and have to deal with their horrific website and Digital River.

3) I could spend between $40-$90 on a single MOC Combat Belt Batman; which roughly equals the cost of an entire wave.

So, all-in-all, I'm so pleased that DC Collectibles is producing these. The end product should look just as good as the prototypes and with only 2 waves planned a year, it'll be easy to save $160-$200 over the course of a year to cover the cost of these beauties.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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I just pre ordered Batman and Catwoman....still no two face. $21 dollars