DC RELAUNCHING entire Universe in September

[SolidLiquidFox]

cluster __k.

 

[fanger54]

Actually she will be alternating between costumes.

not too sure about that one since they changed every image of her from the first issues from having her wearing pants on covers and panels to wearing black shorts. even the current promos have her in the shorts, hell , if you compare the original art/covers and all the promos released
thats been posted on this forum, you will see that the pants are officially gone and its a move that dc did with the now dead wonder woman show when the fans complained that the shorts were gone and it seems to be the same move on the dc team again with the low love for the pants and the want for the shorts instead... so they went back to the shorts.
seems dc at least cares enough for hus to bring that aspect of her back...

 

[Agent0028]

Realistically it is a reboot but they aren't calling it that because they don't want everyone to melt down. The heroes we meet in Justice League #1 have only been around for five years. Action Comics will look at the time before that since Superman is the first public hero whereas Batman has been doing his thing for a while and only recently was proven more than a myth.

They are keeping what they like and everyone likes so Sinestro Corps, Killing Joke, etc and purging what they don't like. The question is how do they fit over 70 years of continuity even keeping what they like and smash it into five years.

One thought that hasn't been proven or disproven is things like the Robins were Batman's original attempt at Batman Inc that he started training them but dropped it and kept them in action meaning that Tim, ____ and Damien can coexist. That is the big question just how they'll fit everything into five years.

This is exactly what makes the reboot sound stupid to me. How are people supposed to know what's been trashed and what's been kept? We're going to need half of the first issue as a "What Happened Before". Then on top of that it's squeezing it all into 5 years. To me this makes it even more daunting for someone to get into the comics as opposed to making it easier.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I only have a few DC TPB's and hardbacks and hadn't bought any in a long while. So maybe some of the fans out there can explain something to me.

I bought the Blackest Night hardcover opened it and was very annoyed to find those "wrinkled shiny newspaper" type of paper used, it turned me way off and i haven't actually read it yet.

The Marvel books i buy have a smooth shiny paper used and it feels smooth where as the DC one feels rough.

If this only on Hardbacks now? or is there a difference in paper in The DC/Titan versions?

I'm interested to get into the new relaunch but not if the paper feels cheap to hold and look at

 

[Mister D]

not too sure about that one since they changed every image of her from the first issues from having her wearing pants on covers and panels to wearing black shorts. even the current promos have her in the shorts, hell , if you compare the original art/covers and all the promos released
thats been posted on this forum, you will see that the pants are officially gone and its a move that dc did with the now dead wonder woman show when the fans complained that the shorts were gone and it seems to be the same move on the dc team again with the low love for the pants and the want for the shorts instead... so they went back to the shorts.
seems dc at least cares enough for hus to bring that aspect of her back...

That's the key. Superman's new costume looks a lot like Snyder's, doesn't it? Batman went black back in the Burton era. WW's was likely meant to tie in with the new tv show, but since that didn't happen, it makes a lot more sense to keep her consistent with the image that has been marketed for decades.

 

[fanger54]

That's the key. Superman's new costume looks a lot like Snyder's, doesn't it? Batman went black back in the Burton era. WW's was likely meant to tie in with the new tv show, but since that didn't happen, it makes a lot more sense to keep her consistent with the image that has been marketed for decades.

Exactly what i was thinking, and i was not surprised to see that snyders supes was looking a lot like the redesign.... kind of wondering why batman did not follow the trend but what ever he is batman( just in case you did not know by the amount of times he tells us)
Makes you wonder also if the redesigns will influence any of the hope to come true films in the dcu like the flash (thats been talked about for a long time now) and its too bad that the catwoman from the reboot has not had any effect on the design for the film version.... but a skin tight suit wearing hathaway is not a bad thing either ....just needs a cowl thats all

 

[Superman]

More of Morrison"s socialist agenda for Superman:
Grant Morrison on Superman at SDCC '11: "Justice May Not Involve the Law"
Grant Morrison took the stage at Comic-Con and answered audience questions on a wide variety of subjects, including Batman, Inc., Dinosaurs vs. Aliens, Supergods and, of course, Superman. What follows is the portion on the Man of Steel.
Comic Book Resources has the full report on the panel, but here's an excerpt on Superman:

"Which did Morrison like more: writing Batman or Superman? Morrison said while he goes back and forth, he was 'buzzed' to be writing Superman again. 'The capitalist millionaire seems to have a little less to say to us now than the champion of the oppressed,' laughed Morrison.

"Explaining that his Superman in Action Comics would be a more mischievous, 'anti-authoritarian' character, Morrison reveled that Clark Kent would become almost as big a name in Metropolis as Superman. 'He's a social reformer, and Clark Kent does as much work as Superman basically uprooting corruption and exposing corruption, so the two of them are working in tandem,' said Morrison. Elaborating that in his version Ma and Pa Kent are dead, Morrison told the audience his Superman will be more of a mischievous character. 'Justice may not involve the law in Superman's eyes,' added Morrison."

Additional information revealed includes that his plan is for a 16-issue run on Action, that although the comic initially takes place five years in the past, by issue #7 it will catch up to the current timeline, from which point stories will jump back and forth in time; and on why people prefer Batman over Superman, he muses that Batman is cool, sexy and has a lot of money, while Superman has a boss, works in an office and is "shackled" in that he has to represent the flag and patriotism.

Dump the hippie writers DC.

Superman renounces his US citizenship.. Now this.. I cannot read a reboot that turns Superman into a socialist. Christopher Reeve's Superman was an American standing for 'Truth, Justice, and the American way!" America was and is a place to be proud of being raised in. If the Superman in the comics does not reflect a love for his adopted country... Then he should move over and the reboot should have him be born in France...

 

[thenammagazine]

Superman renounces his US citizenship.. Now this.. I cannot read a reboot that turns Superman into a socialist. Christopher Reeve's Superman was an American standing for 'Truth, Justice, and the American way!" America was and is a place to be proud of being raised in. If the Superman in the comics does not reflect a love for his adopted country... Then he should move over and the reboot should have him be born in France...

Or just cut to the chase and have him join Al Qaeda. That way Batman can kick his ass, clear his head and set him straight.

 

[IrishJedi]

Speaking of which... Whatever happened to that Batman vs Al Qeda graphic novel ("Holy Terror, Batman!") that Frank Miller was working on?

 

[thenammagazine]

Speaking of which... Whatever happened to that Batman vs Al Qeda graphic novel ("Holy Terror, Batman!") that Frank Miller was working on?

Miller's too busy playing in Hollywood?

 

[chamildav]

Speaking of which... Whatever happened to that Batman vs Al Qeda graphic novel ("Holy Terror, Batman!") that Frank Miller was working on?

It's coming out in September. It won't be the real Batman but a indy book with a Batmanesque character called the Fixer. The book is called Holy Terror and might be worth a read. DC really didn't have much stomach for something like this as Sept 11 got farther away in peoples memories. Or at least as they imagined it did.

 

[IrishJedi]

It's coming out in September. It won't be the real Batman but a indy book with a Batmanesque character called the Fixer. The book is called Holy Terror and might be worth a read. DC really didn't have much stomach for something like this as Sept 11 got farther away in peoples memories. Or at least as they imagined it did.

So... DC is okay with turning Superman (of all characters) into an ex-pat Pinko... but they're uncomfortable having Batman beat up a few homicidal Islamic terrorists? That should tell us a lot about the current state of DC Comics leadership & their care for these characters right there.

 

[thenammagazine]

So... DC is okay with turning Superman (of all characters) into an ex-pat Pinko... but they're uncomfortable having Batman beat up a few homicidal Islamic terrorists? That should tell us a lot about the current state of DC Comics leadership & their care for these characters right there.

Conflict of interest with Superman now being an Al-Qaeda sympathizer.

 

[fanger54]

i hope to god that supes status as a free form agent of good will be erased like his red trunks with the reboot.

Hell im canadian, and even i want him to go back to were he was as the american icon, just works better for the character overall to represent his believes and yeah truth justice and the american way cant work if you remove the american part...

 

[**16k**]

You know, of course, Superman is American, but I've always felt the guy was universal.

He fights for good and there was never a doubt for me that America was on the side of good.

But when I was a kid, I remember reading those naive Superman stories the way they used to do it at the time, and Superman for me was the embodiement of hope, being a universal value. (which is by the way I'm wary when I hear they want to make the character darker)

Recently, comics have changed and they are more in phase with the real world. The good side is it makes it attractive for us adults, but the little part of childhood memories still looks back with nostalgia when things were more simple and politics and comics didn't mix...

i hope to god that supes status as a free form agent of good will be erased like his red trunks with the reboot.

Hell im canadian, and even i want him to go back to were he was as the american icon, just works better for the character overall to represent his believes and yeah truth justice and the american way cant work if you remove the american part...

 

[Agent0028]

I always thought Superman and Captain America both stand more for the true spirit of America regardless of what administration is in the White House and what values Americans may currently hold.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

You know, of course, Superman is American, but I've always felt the guy was universal.

He fights for good and there was never a doubt for me that America was on the side of good.

But when I was a kid, I remember reading those naive Superman stories the way they used to do it at the time, and Superman for me was the embodiement of hope, being a universal value. (which is by the way I'm wary when I hear they want to make the character darker)

Recently, comics have changed and they are more in phase with the real world. The good side is it makes it attractive for us adults, but the little part of childhood memories still looks back with nostalgia when things were more simple and politics and comics didn't mix...

I always thought Superman and Captain America both stand more for the true spirit of America regardless of what administration is in the White House and what values Americans may currently hold.

This is what i said during the whole 'Superman denounces US citzenship' thing a while back.

They're good guys, not men who blind follow orders, if the president said 'kill every man, woman and child in this village', They wouldn't do it.




I don't really follow DC as much as i used to but i would like Marvel to have more Heroes in other countries, with the stories taking place in those countries, not them emigrating the the US.

If you take the time to sit and think (and dwell) about it 85-90% of the stories are set in America and 100% of the the times the world has been saved it's by foiling an attack on the US by a villain or alien.

Marvel is an American company, but that doesn't stop them from have a couple books not set in America, it's not very forward thinking.

I'm Sure there will be bigger fanboys than me who tell me that "Character A has a series and he's in Location B", but i haven't really come across any myself.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

here's the weekly list

 

[Grange Wallis]

Just read first reboot title on my iPad... Loved it, Green Lantern is such a wanker! But its funny!... Green Lantern's got this... Green Lantern can do anything... Its good! Excited about next issues and Action Comics #1 next week!

 

[fanger54]

also just finished reading the jlu reboot, and its freaking good, it has a great story and i was surprised to see them hint at the big evil right away but yeah like said above, GL is a real goof and you see from the start where everything stands with the heroes and that they are more or less newbs