DC RELAUNCHING entire Universe in September

[thenammagazine]

It's also the a reason people see no value in literacy.

 

[TheFiend]

Well, I gave Justice League #1 a shot via digital download on my iPad ($3.99 an issue. Geezus, standard comics are now more expensive than the entire 'The Killing Joke' graphic novel was!)...

It was... okay. Still trying to figure out why Johns (of all people) made Hal/Green Lantern such an utterly unlikable twat right off the bat. And Jim Lee remains one of the most overrated comic artists in modern times..

Sorry but I haven't bought a comic in 3 yrs and I haven't been following this thread closely but what the characters are new to their powers and jobs as super heroes? I thought it was just about starting over as far as the issues go and maybe breathing new life into the characters. Hal Jordan is a young teenage "twat" now?

 

[IrishJedi]

Yeah, basically Green Lantern is still Hal Jordan but only in name... at least in JL #1. He acts more like that insufferable Kyle Rayner, just without the ghey Rayner costume.

 

[The Mike]

Hal's portrayal in JL#1 IS NOT Kyle Rayner.

The best way to think of it is if Ryan Reynolds did a sequel of Green Lantern, Hal's portrayal in this issue is pretty much what you'd expect him to say within the film when explaining his powers and role to someone else. There is a good hint of Ryan Reynolds' portrayal in there which is logical since this was being written while Johns was down in New Orleans supposedly and everyone thought Green Lantern would be a megahit around DC and WB.

 

[IrishJedi]

No way, dude. Hal is way too much of a wiener in JL #1. He's not even remotely likable, made worse by the fact that DC claims this whole sad "New 52" stunt is designed to attract new readers/fans.

You and Johns are probably the only two on Earth who don't see it that way.

 

[The Mike]

Although....you are probably right.

 

[DiFabio]

It's also the a reason people see no value in literacy.

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[Shadow King]

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Is it sad that I understood what you were saying?

I must say that I can see this being a bad thing for long time DC fans, but for people like me that sort of dipped in periodically, this is a great opportunity for me to start from the beginning.

I read Blackest Night (the entire thing, including all titles) and it was pretty good, so I have been interested from that point.

 

[The Mike]

One thing people need to understand is that Geoff Johns is incapable of writing a self-contained issue. His mind works on two modes, Splash Page and 4 Part arc. When people say that Batman seemed too mellow or that Green Lantern was a punk or even that Superman seemed like a self-righteous brat (although how you get that from one page...) it's because Johns in his mind works on the fact you'll read issue 7 and then say "Ah...that's why he was like that".

Fine for those who are in for the long haul, a strange way to go for those who are coming up brand new.

 

[TheFiend]

I dunno.. this is one of the reasons I stopped reading comics. When someone comes is and goes " Um,yeah, I dont like the last 50 years of continuity so Im going to erase that and start over" It was right around the time they did somethin g similar to Spider-Man when I stopped not to mention the rising prices and decreasing comic size.It's funny cuz I was just recently thinking about picking up a few because I miss reading my favorite titles sometimes. I heard they had another Infinite Crisis style story line again like a yr or two ago again. How many has there been??? Speaking of Johns though I liked some of his older J.S.A. stuff.

 

[thenammagazine]

One thing people need to understand is that Geoff Johns is incapable of writing a self-contained issue. His mind works on two modes, Splash Page and 4 Part arc. When people say that Batman seemed too mellow or that Green Lantern was a punk or even that Superman seemed like a self-righteous brat (although how you get that from one page...) it's because Johns in his mind works on the fact you'll read issue 7 and then say "Ah...that's why he was like that".

Fine for those who are in for the long haul, a strange way to go for those who are coming up brand new.

So since a launch title is crucial to keep readers hooked into buying follow-up issues, you're saying Johns is inept?

 

[Kabukiman]

All I know is that "Emerald Warriors" ended perfectly: With a "One punch!" joke.

Ready for the #1's.

 

[cjf28]

so. Already irritated.

Sinestro is Green Lantern now, in GL #1

But Hal is in JL

so, how do they explain it? By making a JL#1 an origin story, by going back 5 years.

So, they reboot an entire universe only to go outside of the main timestream to tell a story that is 5 years old.

And since the world isnt familiar with "super heroes" yet, are we to assume that heroes have only been around for a little over 5 years? What 60 years of DC comics has been reduced to 5-6 years?

 

[DCFett]

HJ in JLU was a bit insufferable. I've never read any Raynor stories but, the portrayal reminded me of John Stewart in Cosmic Odyssey. Maybe Johns is just ripping from old stuff to make new again cause he's obviously got writers block from that garbage Brightest Day mess. You know what they say, the greats borrow!

 

[amusedjester]

One of the things really wonky about this reboot is the different timelines in the titles. Enough to confuse the readers they are trying to attract and retain.

GL #1 and most of the titles, I think occur in the present time; occurring after the old line died.

JLA #1 occurs 5 years ago when the team first came together. Will it remain in the past? We don't know.

Action Comics occurs even before JLA #1, maybe a year or two. Superman doesn't wear the Kryptonian suit and will tell it's origin. Eventually it is supposed to go present time.

 

[NosferatuBill36]

so. Already irritated.

Sinestro is Green Lantern now, in GL #1

But Hal is in JL

so, how do they explain it? By making a JL#1 an origin story, by going back 5 years.

So, they reboot an entire universe only to go outside of the main timestream to tell a story that is 5 years old.

And since the world isnt familiar with "super heroes" yet, are we to assume that heroes have only been around for a little over 5 years? What 60 years of DC comics has been reduced to 5-6 years?

It's happened before. If you're a fan of DC, you shouldn't be too surprised.

 

[The Mike]

So since a launch title is crucial to keep readers hooked into buying follow-up issues, you're saying Johns is inept?

Well let's put it this way. Jim Lee has such a strong following especially after being away from regular titles and doing mostly covers for a while that they are hoping that the pure fanboyism of him doing a monthly again will counterbalance Johns storytelling style. (which by the way I enjoy but I understand it isn't for everyone)

Sinestro is Green Lantern now, in GL #1. But Hal is in JL. so, how do they explain it? By making a JL#1 an origin story, by going back 5 years. So, they reboot an entire universe only to go outside of the main timestream to tell a story that is 5 years old. And since the world isnt familiar with "super heroes" yet, are we to assume that heroes have only been around for a little over 5 years? What 60 years of DC comics has been reduced to 5-6 years?

Basically. Batman has been confirmed via Twitter to have been in operation for a lot longer but Superman 5 years ago was the first Superhero to come out and really take on the public eye. The thing is that it isn't Superman as we know him. He is brash, unseasoned, impulsive. This JL #1 is the first time Batman himself comes out into the public eye and isn't just the myth of Gotham because he needs to put a team together to face Darkseid. Throughout the first arc of Justice League we'll find out how the heroes exposed themselves to the public and why. Action Comics will be back even further explaining Superman's move towards being Superman but the others will take place in modern times, jumping back when needed.

Basically for GL, Sinestro Corps War, Blackest Night and The War of the Green Lanterns occurred within the five year period between JL #1 and GL #1.

 

[IrishJedi]

Been watching Justice League Unlimited episodes this weekend. I miss Dwayne McDuffie. Today's remaining DC hotshots don't hold a candle, IMHO.

 

[DCFett]

Been watching Justice League Unlimited episodes this weekend. I miss Dwayne McDuffie. Today's remaining DC hotshots don't hold a candle, IMHO.

Can I get an amen!

@The Mike- how can the Sinestro Corps war have happened if sinestro is a GL again? I really don't get how this time line is suppose to play out!

 

[amusedjester]

The sinestro corps war still happened, Sinestro regained the green ring in the War of the Rings series before the re-launch. So, GL#1 probably occurs after the War series.