My take: The thread is labeled "Spoilers". If a person doesn't want to be spoiled they should avoid this thread. 
Doctor Who - Spoilers!
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Darth Caedus
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Believe that makes BBC 3 weeks ahead of Sci-Fi. The Christmas Special airs next week on Sci-Fi, so episode 4 on BBC will air when episode 1 airs on Sci-Fi
I also think that is someone doesn't want to get spoiled, don't come here
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ok... I can't state enough how much we LOVED this episode. Best SFX yet... great use of the Rome set... it was funny (some hilarious lines), emotional, very powerful at the end.... and i LOVE Donna
Her line "I dont know what children youve been flying around in space with but you're not telling ME top shut up!" explained everything.
They've given the doc someone to stand up to him... and to cause friction and arguments, instaed of looking all dow eyed at him.. and that is fabulousl
wonderful... WONDERFUL episode
Her line "I dont know what children youve been flying around in space with but you're not telling ME top shut up!" explained everything.
They've given the doc someone to stand up to him... and to cause friction and arguments, instaed of looking all dow eyed at him.. and that is fabulousl
wonderful... WONDERFUL episode
Darth Caedus
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It's weird, but that's the exact reason why I DON'T like her. I know they are trying to make her "spunky", but with her age and how she delivers her lines, she's just really annoying to me. And that quote makes her sound like a child to me, IMO.
Memnoch
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I've gotta go with Darren on this one. Donna stands up to him, doesn't fall all over him, she's more an equal (human, but equal) and puts him in his place when he needs it. Let's be honest, the Doctor always was a bit of a man-child. 
Darth Caedus
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I've gotta go with Darren on this one. Donna stands up to him, doesn't fall all over him, she's more an equal (human, but equal) and puts him in his place when he needs it. Let's be honest, the Doctor always was a bit of a man-child.
VERY true, which is part of his charm. He can go from a childish innocence to the fury of the last of the time lords. Maybe I'm not giving Donna a chance because I hate catherine tate more than anything in the world.
Memnoch
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Very well could be, because as I've said all along she isn't the loud screechy thing she was at the start of Runaway Bride. I thought the scene with her trying to save the people in Pompeii was just brilliant. The woman really has a great range of talent, it's just I guess some people got over exposed on her sketch show.
Darth Caedus
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Yea, her unfunny, horrible, eye gouging terrible sketch show...wow, I AM biased....
That's pretty much my opinion too. I don't find her so called "comedy" series at all funny and while she's been far better than I expected so far I still hope her character is only around for this series.
Likewise I hope RTD bows out as top dog after this series or the 4 specials next year as the current format of mostly 1 part stories that are almost always set on Earth is starting to grate. Series 3 was very average compared to the previous ones and the first 2 episodes of this one haven't exactly been classics either. Hopefully things will improve with the next few episodes but after a second series of Torchwood that was only matched in it's tediousness by it's first I'm starting to wonder if this is as good as it gets on RTD's watch. I won't deny he's done great things with bringing Doctor Who back to our screens but it doesn't mean the show can't be further improved by a new regime.
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wow.... some people are hard to please.
I thought I was the only one who picked up on that. I kept expecting Julia of the Atia to come around the corner.
Having watched a lot of the Classic stories from the Jon Pertwee,Tom Baker and Peter Davison eras on DVD recently I've formed the view that Nu-Who is very overrated and IMO the only thing it does better is more polished visuals.
The 4 or 6 part serial format works a lot better than a load of throwaway one off episodes and allows for much stronger supporting characters than the cardboard stereotypes we get with Nu-Who. There's also none of the soap opera BS that RTD loves to include either. I've not seen every Classic story but in the 20 or so that I have seen there was zero scenes involving the companions family (who cares about them?) and no discussion of a character's sexuality complete with childish innuendo (it has no place in a sci-fi drama) and the stories were so much the better for it. I also don't recall a single episode where the Doctor was absent for all but about 5 minutes yet on RTD's watch we've had 2 of those so far. Nu-Who is like all modern versions of old favorites,all style with little substance and were it not for the great performances of the actors that have played the Doctor and the occasional decent 2-part story I would have stopped watching a while back.
Ahem.....
Tremas, Nyssa's father, is killed by the Master in Keeper of Trakken. Tegan's aunt is also killed by the master. Much of Hartnell's stories deal with the Doctor's relationship with his grand daughter. These are a few examples. I am sure I could pull more.
While I agree that the four part serial format lent the opportunity for character exploration, most of the time characters were quite one dimensional anyway. I think there is loads more character developement on Nu Doctor Who and I quite enjoy the "soap opera" which RTD is creating.
Tremas, Nyssa's father, is killed by the Master in Keeper of Trakken. Tegan's aunt is also killed by the master. Much of Hartnell's stories deal with the Doctor's relationship with his grand daughter. These are a few examples. I am sure I could pull more.
While I agree that the four part serial format lent the opportunity for character exploration, most of the time characters were quite one dimensional anyway. I think there is loads more character developement on Nu Doctor Who and I quite enjoy the "soap opera" which RTD is creating.
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yes but 'Blink' was one of the best episodes... ever.
But there's no point arguing.... we can't all agree
Darth Caedus
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yes but 'Blink' was one of the best episodes... ever.
But there's no point arguing.... we can't all agree
Yea, he was barely in 5 minutes of blink, and it was the best episode of the new series.....what does that say about the doctor...
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hey now... don't be putting down the doctor, lol 
As I said I've not seen every single Classic story so maybe I was off in making such a sweeping statement.
As for my position on "Blink" I just don't get the point of having your main character,the one that the show's named after to begin with only appear for 5 minutes of 45. I've seen it twice and fail to see what's so clever about it and why everyone else seems to think it's so great.
Yeah it was a pretty freaky episode. I got the willies watching it too... on my iPod of all places.
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