Doctor Who - Spoilers!

[bcm77]

I think it would be cool if they left Tennant on a cliff hanger and did a whole series with McGann.


(I like Tennant, but I am ready for new blood).

Personally I'd let Tennant fall off the cliff instead of leaving him hanging there
Maybe under the new regime the writing and directing could improve to the point where Tennant's major weakness ( his acting in any situation where he's not required to be a smartmouth ) isn't so apparent but he's gone way past the point where I care about his version of the Doctor and I would sooner see someone else in the role.
Aside from Johnny Depp who would likely cost the BBC too much money I have no idea who could replace him but there's got to be someone who can bring some depth to the character and have that slightly odd "not of this Earth" quality that is nowhere to be seen in his 10th incarnation.

 

[Kabukiman]

If they decide to do a theatrical movie, I'd like to see something along the lines of Tennant remembering or reliving the Time War somehow. So we get Tennant, but have the film mostly feature McGann and Eccleston. Maybe something along the lines of "Trial of a Time Lord" but edited a lot better and with multiple Doctors.

 

[JABBATHERIDGE]

Ok so who's your favourite Doctor from the new series, Ninth or Tenth? Personally I like David Tennant's Doctor, but Christopher Eccleston was in the role when I first got into the series so he'll always be MY Doctor. Just recently I've watched several season one episodes including the two part finale and they're still amazing now. For me, season one of Doctor Who was on a par with Star Wars in amazing sci fi experiences. But then it was my first ever exposure to the show as I didn't watch the classic series.

 

[bcm77]

Rather unsuprisingly I prefer Christopher Eccleston's 9th Doctor.
Unlike his successor he never went overboard with the "human" mannerism's and cliches and whilst he had his manic moments he had much more depth to his character than that and his serious or darker moments were at times brilliant.
I've mentioned this before but I think the scene in "Rose" where he's on about being able to feel the Earth falling through space is one of my favorite moments in Nu-Who so far and his angry side that was shown in "Dalek" was awesome but they were by no means the only good bits of his run and he remained intresting right up to his regeneration.
With a few more series he would have been up there with Tom Baker and Jon Pertwee and I think the BBC messed up by creating whatever the circumstances were that caused him to leave.

 

[pixletwin]

I feel CE stands up to repeat viewings a lot better than DT. I like DT too though.

 

[Kabukiman]

Ok so who's your favourite Doctor from the new series, Ninth or Tenth?

Give me Tennant or give me death!

 

[Memnoch]

Tennant. And bcm, BBC didn't make Eccleston leave, he signed on to do just one series and it was his choice not to keep going. He didn't want to get "stuck" in the role sort of like DT is now.

 

[JABBATHERIDGE]

I don't think anyone really knows what happened with Eccleston, as he's too much of a gent and far too professional to talk about it. I've heard lots of different theories online from "didn't want to be typecast" to "didn't think the series was socially relevant enough" to "couldn't stand the filming schedule". There was even someone on Doctor Who Forums yesterday claiming that he had been forced out of the show because he wouldn't do enough promotional work for it and the BBC wanted someone who'd talk to the media more. I don't think we'll ever know what really happened. Maybe if he starts doing conventions or an autobiography in his old age or something.

 

[bcm77]

Tennant. And bcm, BBC didn't make Eccleston leave, he signed on to do just one series and it was his choice not to keep going. He didn't want to get "stuck" in the role sort of like DT is now.

As far as I know Eccleston has never made public his reason for leaving and has been reluctant to talk about his time as the Doctor in all the interviews I've seen.
I think he would have remained appealing for a lot longer than Tennant though because of his effectiveness at portraying the character equally well on a variety of different levels.

 

[barbelith]

I prefer CE because he had a remote quality about him. I could actually believe he was an alien. I enjoy DT but under his reign they've removed most of the qualities that drew me to the Doctor in the first place.

 

[bcm77]

I prefer CE because he had a remote quality about him. I could actually believe he was an alien. I enjoy DT but under his reign they've removed most of the qualities that drew me to the Doctor in the first place.

Exactly! The character is meant to be an alien so he shouldn't react to every situation in a human manner like his 10th incarnation does as it makes him far too predictable and therefore not as intresting.

 

[JABBATHERIDGE]

I think the great thing about Eccleston was that he could do that "manic madcap Doctor" thing when he needed to, so the humour was still there, but there was also a sadness to him, a loneliness, the last of his kind. It brought a kind of seriousness to the series that hasn't really been around since he left, a gravity. He could also do arrogance very well when he needed to, like keeping Rose's family at a distance and how he treated Mickey initially.

With Tennant's Doctor there's too much humour and madness and although there have been some darker moments, like in The Runaway Bride when he slaughtered the Racnoss children, there really hasn't been enough darkness in the character lately. I suppose by seasons three and four the BBC realised the show was hugely popular with the child audience and had to get rid of some of that, but it's a shame because it made the show a little more serious at times. I still like Tennant's Doctor alot, but I loved Eccleston's.

 

[barbelith]

With Tennant's Doctor there's too much humour and madness and although there have been some darker moments, like in The Runaway Bride when he slaughtered the Racnoss children, there really hasn't been enough darkness in the character lately.

I think it feels very schizoid. The character hasn't earned the darker moments so it feels like the equivalent of the music in a Hollywood blockbuster telling you how to feel. When the Doctor kills the Racnoss children it's all so WTF?!

I enjoy the new series and I appreciate what the program makers have achieved but it does feel like the guiding force is asleep at the wheel. The DT Doctor is fun on the surface, but chip away at the veneer and the character doesn't make any sense. You know there's a problem when your two best episodes don't even have the Doctor in them (Blink/Human Nature)!

 

[bcm77]

I think the great thing about Eccleston was that he could do that "manic madcap Doctor" thing when he needed to, so the humour was still there, but there was also a sadness to him, a loneliness, the last of his kind. It brought a kind of seriousness to the series that hasn't really been around since he left, a gravity. He could also do arrogance very well when he needed to, like keeping Rose's family at a distance and how he treated Mickey initially.

Very well put. I think it's his ability to switch emotions without any loss in performance quality that made Christopher Eccleston the closest to Tom Baker we may ever see in the role.

Tom's Doctor will best be remembered for his mad grin and flippant remarks to his enemies but he was incredible in the darker moments and for a great example of how well he did "arrogant" I'd advise people to check out the early parts of the Invasion of Time where as part of a ruse to draw out the Sontarans the Doctor has to behave more like The Master.

By comparison David Tennant has one gear which he does well enough but not every moment requires that gear and whenever he's trying to be anything other than manic he seems to suck the life out of the scene.

 

[pixletwin]

More spoiler goodness from TheDoctorsTrainers on DWF.com

Spoiler

Originally Posted by The Doctors trainers View Post
... so Harriet Jones...

She's dead isn't she?

We saw her die right? Didn't we? We didn't?! We heard her death cries like all the other characters shot by the daleks in Stolen Earth. What do you mean we didn't? Oooo!!!!

And those rumours about Harriet Jones being in league with the Daleks? They proved wrong of course....but what if Harriet Jones was in league with another enemy of the Daleks who wanted to thwart their plans?

And what of the O key? Have really seen the last of it?

Now that would be a Master stroke now, wouldn't it. A terrific way to conclude the specials

Oh yes, and from what I'm hearing...McGann. Filming. A couple of weeks time. I'm as confident as i can be on this. Studio based. Enjoy

I'm out of here now

Also its looking more and more credible that Harriet Jones just may actually be

Spoiler

THE RANI.

I'm not sure about that last one, but we'll see.

 

[bcm77]

More spoiler goodness from TheDoctorsTrainers on DWF.com


Also its looking more and more credible that Harriet Jones just may actually be

Spoiler

THE RANI.

I'm not sure about that last one, but we'll see.

RTD has already killed much of the credibility of the Daleks,Davros & The Master so maybe he's looking to complete the set with the Cybermen and other baddie mentioned in the spoiler?

 

[pixletwin]

The more I think about it the more I doubt the bit about the other baddie... To be fair to TDT, the last bit was not a spoiler from him.

 

[JABBATHERIDGE]

Not Doctor Who per se, but there's a cinematic trailer for the new series of the Sarah Jane Adventures doing the rounds online.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sja/

 

[Memnoch]

Not Doctor Who per se, but there's a cinematic trailer for the new series of the Sarah Jane Adventures doing the rounds online.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sja/

Jabba.. there IS a Sarah Jane thread around somewhere. May not have gotten moved over when the new section was created. I know the Torchwood spoiler thread is still languishing over in the Other section after I bumped it and asked for it to be moved over here.

 

[JABBATHERIDGE]

Sorry didn't realise, I'll find it and add the link