Doctor Who - Spoilers!

[barbelith]

No just going off what I know of how the BBC contracts most of their talent, which is series by series.

Right. But there's a difference between a Series 5 contract never being on the cards and Series 5 contract negotiations falling through. But as we both agree, RTD lies a lot. So who knows.

I still think things are far more suspicious than anyone from Upper Boat is letting on though. This many spoilers about the next Doctor, this early, from the regime of a man that loathes spoilers? Fishy, fishy, fishy.

I don't think Moffat has much control over leaks, to be honest. Especially if someone really does get the part and starts telling friends and co-workers. I like the Wormwood idea as a fan, but in terms of mainstream hit TV I think it would probably be ratings suicide to pull a stunt like that after a hiatus year, and when almost everyone involved with the show is leaving. Moffat has to make his mark immediately, not half a season later.

 

[Memnoch]

Ah but if you haven't noticed, many many leaks have dried up of late. The stinger was McGann-gate. After that went down things went very quiet very quickly and now there's this flood of info with an oddly timed announcement by David that he was leaving the program and then hemming and hawing he did on BBC3 a bit ago. Just fishy.

 

[barbelith]

Ah but if you haven't noticed, many many leaks have dried up of late. The stinger was McGann-gate. After that went down things went very quiet very quickly and now there's this flood of info with an oddly timed announcement by David that he was leaving the program and then hemming and hawing he did on BBC3 a bit ago. Just fishy.

Not really. There are no scripts written aside from one special and filming doesn't start until next year. I think a lot of this is just enthusiastic fans and as you yourself admit your DT theory is supposition "just going off what I know of how the BBC contracts most of their talent."

I think for the most part there's no "there" there.

 

[Kabukiman]

I think a lot of this is just enthusiastic fans...

I wouldn't know anything about those people...

 

[pixletwin]

Whats wrong with being an enthusiastic fan?

If there is no "there" there, thats ok. Its fun to speculate and talk about.

 

[barbelith]

Whats wrong with being an enthusiastic fan?

Nothing. It's when unfounded rumors become circulated as tantamount to fact that things start getting stupid.

 

[pixletwin]

Whats stupid about discussing rumors?

 

[wookster]

Whats stupid about discussing rumors?

The Internet was invented for rumours... everyone knows that!

 

[pixletwin]

The Internet was invented for rumours... everyone knows that!

 

[barbelith]

Whats stupid about discussing rumors?

When people start treating them as gospel and react against people pointing out they're not properly sourced or indeed likely.

 

[pixletwin]

Again I ask, why do you feel the need to police this whenever anyone posts and who are you to say whether something is likely or not?

 

[Kabukiman]

Discussing Doctor Who (facts and rumors) = :chew

Discussing the merits of posting rumors to internet discussion boards =

 

[bcm77]

Whilst Paterson Joseph wouldn't be my preferred choice for the next Doctor ( Sean Pertwee is ) I'm prepared to give him a chance if he does turn out to get the job as I think the only way to go from the Tennant era is up.

I'm sceptical that such a choice would likely be made for any other reason than to appease the PC obsessed element of the US audience that RTD seemed to enjoy pandering to but the show needs something of a kick up the backside to make the lead character intresting again so maybe having a colored actor in the role could help do this.

 

[Kabukiman]

I'm sceptical that such a choice would likely be made for any other reason than to appease the PC obsessed element of the US audience that RTD seemed to enjoy pandering to...

It does kinda seem that way doesn't it? Kinda a coincidence to cast the first black Doctor right after the US elects it's first black president.

However, the Marquis deCarabas basically *is* The Doctor, from a performance standpoint, so I will be a happy camper should these rumors turn out to be true (and should he choose to play The Doctor similarly to the Marquis).

 

[bcm77]

It does kinda seem that way doesn't it? Kinda a coincidence to cast the first black Doctor right after the US elects it's first black president.

However, the Marquis deCarabas basically *is* The Doctor, from a performance standpoint, so I will be a happy camper should these rumors turn out to be true (and should he choose to play The Doctor similarly to the Marquis).

I don't think political correctness is a bad concept in principle but it's become far too dominant in modern television and is largely why I find most US shows unwatchable.
More than anything else it's that "Americanisation" that is at the root of my problem with Nu-Who because I feel the show has lost most of it's identity and aside from the obvious things the show no longer stands out as being a very British take on the genre.

I've only seen Paterson Joseph in his previous Nu-Who appearance and his character wasn't important enough to give any insight into how he'd play the Doctor but I'll see what he's like in the new Survivors series and if he's decent enough I may be a bit less sceptical about the reasons for him getting chosen should the rumors be true.

 

[pixletwin]

Before all the Obama business I wanted Colin Salmon.

 

[barbelith]

Again I ask, why do you feel the need to police this whenever anyone posts and who are you to say whether something is likely or not?

I'm curious why you feel pointing out runaway rumors = policing.

 

[wookster]

Well I watched Survivors last night and Joseph was fine, if it's him I think he'll be OK.

And on the Obama tip, if McCain had won would we have gotten a old balding Doctor with an incompetent 'vice helper'?

 

[pixletwin]

I'm curious why you feel pointing out runaway rumors = policing.

Nevermind its not worth the time.

 

[barbelith]

I'm sceptical that such a choice would likely be made for any other reason than to appease the PC obsessed element of the US audience that RTD seemed to enjoy pandering to

RTD did nothing for the US audience, which is why it's vanishingly small.

We've seen black Time Lords before. We saw Romana turn blue after regenerating. There's no reason there can't be a black Doctor just because whoever's in charge thinks a particular actor would make a great Doctor.